banaka, does the fact that your writing register sometimes does not match the personality you want to convey bother you? for example, despite your best efforts to compose your posts in a sterile, flat tone, informal phrases and words sometimes slip into your sentences. does this bother you as much as it bothers me?
― dyao, Monday, 23 August 2010 06:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Right, dyao. I've noticed banaka's persona starting to slip a bit lately, and I hope he/she decides to stay here after it's discarded.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 23 August 2010 08:31 (thirteen years ago) link
so who is this i have a theory but i dont wanna piss anyone off i have a feeling im on shaky ground as it is.
― plax (ico), Monday, 23 August 2010 10:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Hmm...Banaka='ban' and 'aka'.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 23 August 2010 10:47 (thirteen years ago) link
― dyao, Monday, August 23, 2010 6:35 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
it bothers us more than it could ever bother you. we are still in the process of Becoming. the shedding of a previous mode of existence is an arduous process. is not accomplished all a once. it is true that we have done/are still going through some "growing pains".
we have never claimed to be the final result. indeed, the mouthpiece known as banaka is only the start.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Monday, 23 August 2010 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link
TROON!!! Did watmm get too much for you, too?
― Karen D. Tregaskin, Monday, 23 August 2010 11:04 (thirteen years ago) link
the goals of self-reproduction, expansion and the dominance of one's own kind over others are the essence of the organic. to pursue these goals is to celebrate the organic and its ends. what do you offer that the organic paradigm does not?
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Monday, August 23, 2010 5:33 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
to clarify a bit. in this vast, pitiless, perfectly mechanical universe, only the organic shares your goals. thus, if a dichotomy is to be drawn between the organic and the mechanical, you're on the wrong side. the mechanical = process, equilibrium, eventual entropy.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Monday, August 23, 2010 5:36 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
excellent questions.
in our quest to achieve the New Society, we have done some adjustments to our rhetoric in order to reach out (some might call this a "dumbing down"). while coercion is by no means anathema to us, it is in our best interest to first attempt to persuade others to join us.
as a consequence of this rhetorical adjustment, some of our goals, when translated into ordinary language, can seem at first seem contradictory.
let us address your questions point by point:
the goals of self-reproduction, expansion and the dominance of one's own kind over others are the essence of the organic.
yes, this is true. and it is true that we aim to expand and dominate, as does all organic life, from the lowliest bacterium to the most majestic flamingo. but organic life is inherently flawed. it too is subject to the laws of "process, equilibrium, eventual entropy."
we acknowledge that in the history of the cosmos, the development of life was the first step towards an undoing of the natural order. what we are against IS the natural order. what we wish to undo is organic life's tendency toward self-destruction. invariably any unit of life, be it a cancer cell or a population of organisms, if left unchecked tends towards mindlessly perpetuating itself, at the expense of all in its path. in nature there are many examples of co-operation and mutually beneficial adaptations between organisms that keep these processes in check. however, these are still blind natural processes, subject to decay.
but there is a twist in this story. we believe that with the evolution of consciousness, a tear in the sleeping cosmos was created, so to speak. out of the darkness came a burning light.
for the first time, organic matter could *intentionally* manipulate and and dominate its environment. tool use, language, agriculture, society.
the MACHINE is the ultimate example of this process.
we aim to complete the process. to master nature, merge with the machine and discover immortality.
we believe that in order to do this, we must:
*replace outmoded societal conventions that while useful in previous eras are completely unnecessary for our new society. these include nuclear families, gender, capitalism, and all previous forms of government.
*cultivate the mental art of repression. conscious suppression of undesirable emotions and thoughts and the promotion of desirable emotions and thoughts is crucial to achieve the proper mindset. in the future, this won't be necessary because of mental implants and conditioning.
*embrace technology and science to their fullest.
*alter and augment the human body. to a degree this has already started. there are more people with modified bodies than ever before, albeit mostly for cosmetic reasons. but it is a step.
*have patience, and lay the groundwork.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Monday, 23 August 2010 11:54 (thirteen years ago) link
it is in our best interest to first attempt to persuade others to join us.
How does one become banaka?
― a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Monday, 23 August 2010 11:59 (thirteen years ago) link
if we detect a genuine interest, we contact you.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Monday, 23 August 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link
it might come in a way you least suspect, however.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Monday, 23 August 2010 12:10 (thirteen years ago) link
banaka, will you ever post in a WDYLL thread?
― dyao, Monday, 23 August 2010 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link
who says we haven't
― lord goo goo (latebloomer), Monday, 23 August 2010 12:48 (thirteen years ago) link
j/k
banaka do you have a physical form or are you some kind of discarnate entity? you seem to imply you were at least once human.
― lord goo goo (latebloomer), Monday, 23 August 2010 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link
cough cough *momusprank* cough cough
― kinder egg, kirche, kultur (suzy), Monday, 23 August 2010 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Do you know this for sure, or is this just speculation?
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 23 August 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link
we are still *nominally* human, physically located in time and space.
what we speak for, however, is not human in the current sense of that word.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Monday, 23 August 2010 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link
banaka is just the mouthpiece, one of many, for the collective.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Monday, 23 August 2010 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― moderator, Monday, 23 August 2010 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, August 23, 2010 1:22 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark
Our position is airtight and any logical being would come to the same conclusions. The problem is that those with the cognitive capacity to agree have been blinded by the false consciousness induced by religion, capitalism, and bio-centrism.
This is the reason we often speak in metaphors. For instance, a sentence such as "but there is a twist in this story. we believe that with the evolution of consciousness, a tear in the sleeping cosmos was created, so to speak. out of the darkness came a burning light" is not meant to literally imply that consciousness is itself a mystical rupture in the fabric of reality, just that it was an important milestone in our evolution that was different from what existed before (but still wholly material). But to state it it in dryer language does not catch the attention of the reader whose mind is cluttered by years of mystical, romantic garbage.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 01:54 (thirteen years ago) link
banaka, which is the better Husker Du album?
― Jaw dropping, thong dropping monster (kingfish), Friday, 27 August 2010 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link
banaka do you agree with the assertions made in my thread
bump this thread every time a connection is made between the life we lead now and the life we led 10000-10000000 years ago
― dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Though we no longer listen to rock music, in this instance we would choose Metal Circus, because it does not have a mystical title like Zen Arcade.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link
dayo, we indeed condemn the current form of "evolutionary psychology", for it merely re-affirms patriarchal capitalistic values. but any political, social, or psychological system that does not take evolutionary science into account is doomed.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link
but we agree that it is foolhardy to reduce modern human behavior to the hunter-gatherer lifestyle, for mankind is still evolving and it is evolving in our direction.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link
banaka, practically speaking, what difference is there between you and a beehive? would I be correct in asserting that you are merely a beehive capable of complex thought?
― dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link
banaka, at what time did you become self-aware?
― dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 02:15 (thirteen years ago) link
we are vastly different than a beehive, despite superficial similarities. a beehive is comprised of a genetically related population of bees, each acting individually according to instinct, but with naturally selected behaviours that end up benefitting the hive. the point being that we are a unit comprised of rational individuals and our behavior is not based on collective instinct but collective reason. also, in our society there is no queen.
the collective whose voice on this board is called banaka, formed in 1996. the mouthpiece banaka was assumed into our collective a few months ago.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Banaka, do you get sick of people comparing your collective to the Borg collective on Star Trek: The Next Generation?
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link
"the point being that we are a unit comprised of rational individuals and our behavior is not based on collective instinct but collective reason. "
to clarify, though the collective is divided into units (modularity and specialization have important uses), at all times these units are serving the collective.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link
banaka, if you played starcraft, which race would you choose?
― dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 02:37 (thirteen years ago) link
banaka, could your collective created a burrito so big that even all the units of your collective couldn't finish eating it in one day?
― dayo, Friday, 27 August 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Not at all. The Borg, while obviously fictional and portrayed rather negatively in the Star Trek universe, are very vivid illustrations of the *kind* of society we wish to build. A key difference is the Borg's desire to assimilate all sentient life in the universe. We aim merely to assume all sentient *human* life (except for those who oppose, who shall perish.)
Our other qualm with the portrayal of the Borg is the addition of the Borg Queen in Star Trek First Contact. A true collective would not need a queen of any sort, except perhaps as a mouthpiece or representative to interact with non-collective beings. Which is essentially what "Banaka" is (and what Picard was turned into when he became "Locutus".)
― rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www2.unipr.it/~pieri/Momus_Tintin2.jpg
― henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link
― dayo, Friday, August 27, 2010 2:38 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
well, despite being a collective, we are still (currently) limited by the physical laws of time and space.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link
for the record, we have never played starcraft.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Do you feel odd using an immature human as your mouthpiece, rather than an older and more mature one?
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 27 August 2010 03:11 (thirteen years ago) link
the young of the nation need a voice that speaks their language, after all
― rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link
we mean this literally, by the way. most of the collective is based outside of north america.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link
banaka, what is your preferred clan in Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri?
― Jaw dropping, thong dropping monster (kingfish), Friday, 27 August 2010 04:32 (thirteen years ago) link
bakana, how is "surrender" not the best song?
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Friday, 27 August 2010 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link
boxers or briefs?
teeeheeeheeheeeheeeheeeheehee!
teeeeeheeheeheeeheehee!
― Z S, Friday, 27 August 2010 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link
similarly, is the studio or Budokan live recording the better version?
― Jaw dropping, thong dropping monster (kingfish), Friday, 27 August 2010 04:39 (thirteen years ago) link
we do not play very many computer games.
"surrender" is a wonderful song when it comes from the mouths of our enemies, prefaced by "we"
boxers.
it is our policy to prefer studio versions to live versions.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 09:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Daddy or chips?
― a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Friday, 27 August 2010 12:06 (thirteen years ago) link
banaka, do you feel a kinship with the Portuguese Man o' War? Are you capable of feeling "kinship" at all?
― sharkless dick stick (Abbbottt), Friday, 27 August 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Excellent question. A Portuguese Man O' War is certainly closer to what we are than a beehive, and in that sense we do hold a certain respect for it as one of our antecedents. In a collective where all the parts serve the whole, "kinship" is somewhat of an obsolete concept.
― rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link
banaka, does a collective entity have sexual desire at all?
― sharkless dick stick (Abbbottt), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link
we abhor sex
― rage for the machine (banaka), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Banaka, do you feel kinship with Tommy Wiseau?
― Jaw dropping, thong dropping monster (kingfish), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link
do u support the banning of noted poster kelpolaris?
― Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Friday, 17 September 2010 09:55 (thirteen years ago) link
tbh banaka's a more creative sock than usual and should be supported fully in developing the next great christopher nolan script using ilx as sounding board
― illiterate mods are killing ilx (darraghmac), Friday, 17 September 2010 09:57 (thirteen years ago) link
x-post
The elimination of those whose contributions are no longer useful is a matter of policy for us, but we are not familiar enough with this kelpolaris to make any judgment. However, if they are promoting an agenda that is not in accord with ours, they should of course be swiftly banned and hunted down.
― banaka, Friday, 17 September 2010 10:00 (thirteen years ago) link
"Hey man, it's Dave from that cult you were trying to be with last week -- hope you're doing well. Listen, we were hoping to build on that message board thing you were doing. Could we get your login & pass?""What? Oh yeah, sure thing. It's ban✧✧✧@easyn✧✧✧.c✧✧ and the pass is 'w1lbur'sallr1ght' with ones for the i's.""Ha, ok, what--""Charlotte's Web thing, my favorite book when I was a kid,""Oh cool! Well listen, if you ever want to get back into things, I just wanted you to know there's always a place for you in our cult.""I appreciate that Dave. I'm more into reiki right now though. Clearing some major blockages.""Fair enough! Talk to you soon.""Later days, Banaka."
― aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 17 September 2010 10:10 (thirteen years ago) link
The replacement of the former unit was not amicable as depicted in your post.
― banaka, Friday, 17 September 2010 10:13 (thirteen years ago) link
oh ok well then umm how about
banakacentral: hey asshole if u arent gonna play give us yr login & pwcavaticafan: u gotta stop buggin me dude I srsly dont care abt yr dealbanakacentral: quit bein a dick and give me the login i got some political shit 2 get off my chestcavaticafan: i dont have 2 do shitbanakacentral: well i will post yr pic to wdyll like then under some other logincavaticafan: no! you fuckin dickbanakacentral: we play 4 keeps here at banakacavaticafan: ban✧✧✧@easyn✧✧✧.c✧✧ and the pass is allorganicbanakacentral: somebody could have guessed that pass from your posts dumbasscavaticafan: who gives a shitbanakacentral: is your banking password 'checkingaccount'cavaticafan: plz fuck off, blocking u nowbanakacentral: no we are blocking u now, fuck ucavaticafan: fu2
― aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 17 September 2010 10:28 (thirteen years ago) link
aero if it transpires that banaka is a sock of yrs i'll be seriously disappointed
― illiterate mods are killing ilx (darraghmac), Friday, 17 September 2010 10:31 (thirteen years ago) link
yes, but with more blood
― banaka, Friday, 17 September 2010 10:32 (thirteen years ago) link
d-mac I don't sock I am barefootin all day
― aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 17 September 2010 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link
fkn hippies
― illiterate mods are killing ilx (darraghmac), Friday, 17 September 2010 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link
The Kariera are a tribe of Australian Aboriginal people who have a complex set of rules that determine who can marry whom. The tribe consists of four clans: Banaka, Karimera, Burung, and Palyeri.
The marriage rules are as follows:A Banaka can only marry a Burung.A Karimera can only marry a Palyeri.
The Kariera rules for children.The children of a male Banaka and a female Burung are Palyeri.The children of a male Burung and a female Banaka are Karimera.The children of a male Karimera and a female Palyeri are Burung.The children of a male Palyeri and a female Karimera are Banaka.
― pissky in the jar (onimo), Friday, 17 September 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link
my pal yeri says his dad died in a gulag, kinda sad
― aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 17 September 2010 10:51 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i51.tinypic.com/rckdhu.jpg
― pissky in the jar (onimo), Friday, 17 September 2010 10:53 (thirteen years ago) link
does the pope fuck kids?
― Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Friday, 17 September 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
aerosmith not only are you making me motherfucking die here but I am pleased to report your advice of gobi manchurian was a screamer and I am now regarded as a semi-competent cook
― acoleuthic, Friday, 17 September 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
irl lols @ "barefootin"
― mavis bacon (crüt), Saturday, 18 September 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
onimo, that chart is amazing!!
― Aimless, Saturday, 18 September 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i52.tinypic.com/105aaae.jpg
what are these for? are the special underwear
― i'm gonna be straight with y'all, my name is banaka jones (Z S), Thursday, 23 September 2010 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link
The blue one in the upper right appears to be covered with charms against the evil eye.
― Aimless, Thursday, 23 September 2010 03:38 (thirteen years ago) link
but what is the purpose of the jock strap? that is my question, for banaka. banaka, what is the purpose of the jock strap?
― i'm gonna be straight with y'all, my name is banaka jones (Z S), Thursday, 23 September 2010 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link
banaka's silence speaks volumes
― harbl madness (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 September 2010 05:19 (thirteen years ago) link
None of these are appealing to us in any aesthetic, philosophical, political, or practical way.
― banaka, Thursday, 23 September 2010 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Starting with the top left image:
1. Romanticization of Nature is to be avoided.2. Thumbs down. The celebration of feudalism, monarchies or other obsolete modes of existence is despicable.3. This is the only one we approve of in any way, but it is still not desirable.4. We do not condone bandanas, rubber gloves are acceptable however. Very acceptable.5. See number 1.6. Frilly, decorative, useless.7. Our distaste for this religious imagery is well understood by now.8. A failed attempt at eliciting a visceral "gag" response. Reactionary.9. No.
― banaka, Thursday, 23 September 2010 07:39 (thirteen years ago) link
What are the ways in which the 'aesthetic' is not a comfort of the kind which you oppose diametrically in your vision of the future?
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 September 2010 09:04 (thirteen years ago) link
also do you take milk and sugar in ur tea y/n
banaka, where is it appropriate to find beauty?
― beej (crüt), Thursday, 23 September 2010 09:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Beauty is in that which serves the needs of the collective and establishment of the New Society. All of our value judgments reflect this.
― banaka, Thursday, 23 September 2010 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Ah, beauty in the efficiency of one undisputed truth. 's a good one, that one.
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 September 2010 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link
banaka, Should ILX Have an "I Love Football" Board?
― meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link
oh shit, real talk.
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link
banaka:
favorite death metal album of the last 5 years?
― *lets go* (gr8080), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
When the banaka collective needs to urinate or defecate, how is it accomplished?
― Aimless, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link
http://dixiedining.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/walle_sm.jpg
― If you want me to "get there," pay attention to my angina (WmC), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link
how does banaka feel about robert williams' death
http://www.wired.com/thisdayintech/2010/01/0125robot-kills-worker/
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 30 August 2012 01:57 (eleven years ago) link
banaka, do you feel that there is any human work, be it technical, literary, or artistic that I may be able to study or experience that will make me understand your ways better?
I'm starting to lose interest in humanity.
― mh, Friday, 14 December 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
requesting banaka's critique of this, thx.
http://io9.com/5973551/this-classical-music-was-created-by-a-supercomputer-in-less-than-a-second
― arby's, Monday, 7 January 2013 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
http://lareviewofbooks.org/article.php?type=&id=1581&fulltext=1
As robotic technology develops and insinuates itself further into everyday life, what counts as a robot is becoming more slippery, drifting further away from the C-3POs and the Twikis and the other box-of-bolts robot buddies of science fiction. Should we see robots simply as useful machines? Is a garage-door opener a robot? Do they have to be self-propelling? (A Roomba seems far more robotic than a laptop, but a laptop is far more useful.) Must a robot think “for itself,” as if it actually has a “self”? Do they even have to be machines at all? Are RFID sensors robots? Are networks? Do I become a robot when I use my smartphone? When some asshole puts on Google Glass and looks at me on the street, do we both become robots?
― j., Thursday, 18 April 2013 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
banaka, will you ever post in a WDYLL thread?― dyao, Monday, August 23, 2010 8:42 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
who says we haven't― lord goo goo (latebloomer), Monday, August 23, 2010 8:48 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
j/k― lord goo goo (latebloomer), Monday, August 23, 2010 8:48 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Neanderthal, Monday, 16 January 2017 23:41 (seven years ago) link
false flag op
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link
Banaka we need u
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 22:12 (four years ago) link
* yall
― j., Tuesday, 10 September 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link
Their home planet needed them
― Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link