what are barack obama's flaws?

morbs, fyi, 'stalwart' is an adjective. you're probably referring to O's statement that Israel is a 'stalwart ally' of the US, but maybe you intended to refer to his statement that Israel's security is 'sacrosanct'.

box 13!

caro's biography = is lbj actually president yet (as per the published volumes)? is caro still even alive?

xpost Ethan, I'm really glad you clarified that, but if you haven't read DWMF, you really aren't in a place to say whether it's WHOA INCREDIBLE or not. I stand by my opinion.

Mark, Master of the Senate ends with LBJ as veep, chastened and chomping at the bit.

ethan, fyi, the praise for Obama's (first) book, at least outside of ilx, is for the self-knowledge it exhibits more than the writing (tho people think that's pretty good too)

though im reasonably sure its "pretty good for a politician" expectations not "pretty good for a black dude"

you think?

All of you that are dissing Dave and his band, obviously haven't given him a chance. Actually try to listen to them then you may discover that they aren't bad. Dont judge them without knowing what they are all about. They are making millions and usually boring music doesn't do that. The reason for that is because they are great musicians. I love all kinds of music so dont even try judging the fans either. You dont know them or me you have no right to say stuff about us. Sure some of you may be offended about his one line "hike up your skirt a little more and show the world to me" come on its not nearly as bad as half the rap that is played twice or sometimes 3 times as much as what Dave gets played on the radio.

-- Kara, Friday, June 6, 2003 11:51 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

caro is the brigadier pudding of actual real reality

"not nearly as bad as half the rap that is played twice" <-- you do the math!

What I heard from my mother that day, speaking about my father, was something I suspect most Americans will never hear from the lips of those of another race, and so cannot be expected to believe might exist between black and white

you don't need to have read the whole book to know that this could have used some tightening

The Caro Biography of LBJ does seem a bit liek a Hawkwind boxset with every outtake, bootleg and demo thrown in published in the form of a partwork.

"More of his penis went turgid" <-- tightening

The idea of LBJ ripped on acid and wailing at the top of his lungs...is more Texan than I realized.

when people praise the language in Obama's (first) book, they may be referring more to the interweaving of narrative and themes and ability to evoke thoughts and feelings than the tautness of the sentences

LEAVE MAH PECKER OUT OF THIS

http://www.archives.gov/press/press-kits/picturing-the-century-photos/images/lbj-and-richard-russell.jpg

tautness is all politics: gettysburg address = 243 words long <--- this is the mark we are huntin

"Unintentionally Homoerotic Oval Office Imagery"

haha "tautness is all IN politics"

(it is apparently possible to be too compressed!)

"Unintentionally" <--- OO I SO DON'T THINK

Yeah oh LBJ big proponent of 'accidentally' showing cock to underline alphadawg status, amirite?

yes "the vantage point" = lbj givin orders while takin shit w.door open

also: "better inside the tent pissing out than outside pissing in"

also also:
LBJ: "say he had carnal knowledge of his hog herd"
minion: "wah boss we can't call him 1 x pigfucker"*
LBJ: "i wanna hear him deny it"

(*root of neverstarted lester bangs project-title "a history of pig-fucking" and hence proto-noize alt-rock strand pigfuck)

lbj wz punk

The Audacity of Pig Fucking

APFestival

yea ohb's flaw will turn out to be that this is NOT the secret title

flaw 2: his pastor was not samuel delany :(

Teh visions that inspires, Mark.

"I'd like to read from Neveryona, chapter 2..."

hogg is what put him in mind :/

is there like a secret cult of lbj I didn't know about

I'd say you stumbled into it. Now show us your pecker.

or yr surgery scar.

someone plz show gobbknob how to recognize adjectives.

Hmm, here I was thinking the 'surgery scar' was a placeholder for Lyndon Baines' Jewels.

http://jeff.pasleybrothers.com/images/LBJ_scar.jpg

you say subtext i say domtext

you say subtext i say domtext

YOU ARE A GOLDEN GOD

lincoln = greatest american writer (gore vidal once said this, and i kinda sorta believe it).

i read one of nixon's books years and years ago and all i remember is the incredibly hilarious chapter where he tries to explain watergate and there's like 5,000 paragraphs in a row that all begin like "the most foolish misunderstanding about watergate was...", "the most ridiculous assertion about watergate was...", "the most ironic charge about watergate was..."

hey, i was there, maaaan

In the Arena's got a photo of Nixon writing a speech, arm of his glasses in his mouth. The caption: "Even writing one line takes hours of concentrated thought."

in the arena! i think that was it.

didn't pat buchanan write nixon's farewell address?

The success of the Obama administration will largely depend on the quality of his advisors and appointments. There's no way to know what his administrative style will be. I know he's bright enough to figure out a lot of this stuff and correct his mistakes, but he won't enter office with much margin for error.

I don't worry about his ability to conduct diplomacy with other nations. I don't worry about his ability to conceive and propose budget priorities or legislation. I wonder about his ability to stay in front of the public opinion parade in the USA, what with the attack machine (Fox news, Scaife and Coors throwing millions around, conservative think tanks, etc.) grinding 24 hours a day trying to steer the conversation onto whatever trivia they deem useful to their ends.

It's a pretty big shitstorm to stand in the middle of and still have the time, energy and focus to accomplish good things.

This could be said about any president ever.

Also:

I wonder about his ability to stay in front of the public opinion parade in the USA, what with the attack machine (Fox news, ILE, Scaife and Coors throwing millions around, conservative think tanks, etc.)

Fixed.

Sure. The things I identified don't even begin to approach critical flaws. They're kind of givens.

But then, I don't see any evidence that Obama is beset by major flaws that would prevent him from being a good president. I do see good reasons to think he would be an excellent president. I can only speculate.

I do think it is good to mention this stuff, though. It's good to remind the more gung-ho fro either Obama or Clinton that a campaign is different from governing, and that even good candidates with undoubted talents can be ensnared in a failed administration, due to encounters with problems that are beyond their ability to solve.

It's fine to get your hopes up, but don't consider them guaranteed by the "right" outcome of the election.

Later at a Lincoln Park nightclub, Obama spoke to a raucous crowd of music fans, who paid up to $500 per person to see a performance by Wilco lead singer Jeff Tweedy, and two other band members.

"Before these guys go, I want them to know that I had heard a rumor that they had suggested that I had nothing by them on my iPod," Obama said. "That is not true. I love Wilco."

love is over

so it was an alt-country cowboy hat

There's nothing wrong with a little Wilco on your ipod. And I'd rather he pander to voters through questionable music taste than questionable policy positions.

lol xp

There's nothing wrong with a little Wilco on your ipod. And I'd rather he pander to voters through questionable music taste than questionable policy positions.

-- Super Cub, Saturday, July 12, 2008 3:07 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

you obama maniacs sure do some rhetorical backflips to support this guy!! first his stance on civil unions, now his stance on wilco ... does the man have any principles??

he'll throw wilco under the bus if he needs to

No Son Volt, no credibility

a lot of people on ILM certainly did (xpost)