Oneida -- You'e having a laugh

suspect thread title concerns the caesar's column 12", contents and packaging, released 7 years ago in ye olde UK:

http://www.avatune.com/pics/18020764.jpg

show at the sunset (ballard) on thursday night was amazing by the way. missed the openers, but no loss. oneida were more than enough on their own. and yeah, kid, but the whole damn band, really. best live performance i've seen in quite some time.

Saw them Thursday w/ Kinski and The Lights opening. Oneida were a 5-piece, with another keyboard player, and Shaheen (ex ex-models, seconds) on 2nd guitar and vocals.

― Sock Puppet Pizza Delivers To The Forest (Sock Puppet Queso Con Concentrate)

oh hai, you was at the sunset, too. cheers! twin guitars and keys were fiendish yeah.

Both openers were at their best too. Kinski's Chris Martin is becoming better and more confident as a singing frontman. Also new songs are Alpine-Static good.

But anyway, Oneida U HAZ LAAFS

Oh, man. Rated O would be my #1 album of the year this year, except it's last year's album. Aw, fuck it, it's still my album of the year.

I want more stuff like it. Lots more. It fills the need I've had for some years for a new NEU! album - that relentless propusliveness, mostly instrumental, "out there" but never spaced-out. It's hitting all the right neurons.

I've got NEU!, Can, Fela, and now this; what else fits the bill? Suggestions, anyone?

Hmmm, maybe some Plastic Crimewave Sound? Amon Duul II?

cave
some boredoms (vision creation newsun)
i'm assuming you know cluster, harmonia, etc. since you mentioned neu

Good call with Cave, definitely.

Some album recs:

Amon Duul II - Yeti
Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei
Plastic Crimewave Sound - No Wonderland

Oh man...there are a plethora of threads on here re:krautrock that will keep you busy (and happy) for a while ;)

Cave recommendation thirded

the Plastic Crimewave stuff I have is more goth-y than krautrock-y imhp

imho

maybe check out the plastic crimewave split w oneida? then if you like the PCS side, get some of their stuff!

lot of recommendations for cave. not saying no, but if you're interested, aim for the hunt like devil/JAMZ album (dbl EP combo, whatever). best thing they've done so far, imo.

recent mother of fire EP has an oneida-ish quality here and there, but gothier, and not quite so rhythmically intense.

Hawkwind - Space Ritual

xp - did not know cave had a newer release than pure moods. must check that out ASAP

No, that's the first Cave release. They don't have anything new right now.
There may be some copies of a split cassette with Skarekrau Radio with a live set recorded by Grady Runyan at his record store in Sacramento in 2009.

ok, mother of fire is not the title of an ep by the band cave, but rather a whole other band...?

correct. Mother of Fire record on De Stijl, I think.
the first Cave release is Hunt Like Devil/Jamz.

oh yeah, duh, should have been clearer. mother of fire is a minneapolis band that has a vague oneida-like quality buried somewhere in their sound. connection is tangential at best, and i'm probably the only one who'd make it. offered in response to staggerlee's request.

love this locked groove stuff as well and definitely check out circle! prospekt, sunrise, and tower are my faves. but don't start with tower - it's more on a terry riley tip.

anyway, there's tons of circle material out there and most of it is worthwhile.

best experienced live, tho.

loop might do the trick too. a gilded eternity is killer.

Kicking myself so hard for not mentioning Circle!!!!

xpost

^ knows what's up. circle and loop otm. plus yeah, prospekt & sunrise are my favorite circle albums, and AGE my favorite loop. spot on.

hah, thanx!

also: rhys chatham - die donnergötter

the recent no balls s/t lp (from 2009, I think?) hit a lot of these same buttons for me. but with more scuzz.

oh wait, just threw it on. it ain't self-titled. come clean is the album.

f/I's Space Mantra should dop the trick. Also check out the Parson Sound album.

really really re: no balls? i assumed it would be brainbombs-style gurk rock.

2nd space mantra

No, that's the first Cave release. They don't have anything new right now.
There may be some copies of a split cassette with Skarekrau Radio with a live set recorded by Grady Runyan at his record store in Sacramento in 2009.

― Trip Maker, Thursday, November 4, 2010 6:47 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark

grady's store is in ventura!

Shoot, okay, you got me. Never been to northern Cali.

neither has grady's record store!

Geographically challenged over hera.

hungover, too

nothin but love

really really re: no balls? i assumed it would be brainbombs-style gurk rock.

I mean, it is, sure. but when I listen, "don't stop playing this riff, I love this riff" often pops into my head. and of course, they never do. not until the song has totally decayed.

really hits that loop sweet spot for me but coming from a way more primitive angle.

ymmv, of course.

really, stopping a killer riff prematurely is unforgivable.

I mean, how much better would this song be if the amon duul 2 boys really took their time with the riff that appears 1:13 into this track?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSAk1O0B6sg

not to derail the thread, but anyone have any idea where to buy that Cave/Skarekrau Radio tape? Google's coming up with nada.

many xposts

will check that mother of fire and hunt like devil/jamz is really good for sure
also circle is a great rec

the new hallogallo 2010 7" (blinkgurtel/drone schlager..lolz) is real nice too!

guess I have to check out cave, huh? reflexively wrote them off as 3rd tier stuff for reasons I can't remember. (possibly because they have an album named "jamz")

parson sound seconded in a big way.

Tyler, I will look around for a tape for you.
I will dub one for you for nothing.

aw thx!
alan, some excellent cave stuff to try out over here: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/CAVE/
they're still far and away the best live band i've seen in 2010. probably in 2009, 2008, 2007, too.

nice! I'll definitely give a listen. thanks.

Sorry for derailing your thread, Oneida! Thanks for the recos, everyone. Listening to Harmonia as I type; had forgotten they existed. Really good but a little mellow for my mood right now.

I take it Cave are a different band than these guys? :) Got Hunt Like Devil waiting for me; also, Space Mantra and Circle's Sunrise.

Stopped following the Krautrock listening club after the 1-2 punch of Amon Duul II and Walter Wegmuller, neither of which I could stand in the slightest. (did like La Dusseldorf alright, tho.) Maybe I should get back on the bandwagon.

Anyone listening to any Sun Araw? Seems like if you like Amon Duul II's noodliness and a bit of space-rock you'll dig it. It's mostly soloing over slow deep beats and a chaotic backdrop of echoey distorted guitars & keys. Very trancey & psychedelic. The one I listen to most is Heavy Deeds.

Since I instantly and completely derailed this thread from Oneida to all this other stuff, is it possible for a mod to snip the whole conversation into a new thread from that point? Up to now this is the best all-arounder thread for Oneida & I don't want to have fucked it over. Also, anyone looking for a convo around repetitive guitar-rock bands is more than likely to miss it here.

LADDIO BOLLOCKO

^yesssss.

first album is a stunner.

^ in my post above, every time I mention Amon Duul II, substitute Ash Ra Tempel, since apparently that's what I was referring to. I guess now I haven't heard AD (I or II). Would i like them? Are they riffy?

they are riffy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3-MC5EyFk0&feature=related

but not always that riffy

Anyone listening to any Sun Araw? Seems like if you like Amon Duul II's noodliness and a bit of space-rock you'll dig it. It's mostly soloing over slow deep beats and a chaotic backdrop of echoey distorted guitars & keys. Very trancey & psychedelic. The one I listen to most is Heavy Deeds.

oh hell yes. have mentioned them in a number of threads recently (insisting, for example, that they are "chillwave" just so i can foist them there). heavy deeds is epic, but i think on patrol is my favorite. the longer songs and open spaces make it so easy to get lost in. plus nice beats.

Since I instantly and completely derailed this thread from Oneida to all this other stuff, is it possible for a mod to snip the whole conversation into a new thread from that point? Up to now this is the best all-arounder thread for Oneida & I don't want to have fucked it over. Also, anyone looking for a convo around repetitive guitar-rock bands is more than likely to miss it here.

wouldn't worry about it. in the long run, this'll just be a minor detour, and probably a useful one to fans.