I have a feeling some of this stuff is not too far removed from the melodic old electronica I listen to all the time, like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GFZe-NYKBw
Any full album recs more along the electro side less on the guitary side?
― Count Scrofula (corey), Friday, 20 August 2010 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i guess. dont forget. chillwave is a ~~vibe~~ there are no real rules.
― plax (ico), Friday, 20 August 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNYJtZPL_dM
^ feel free to throw me off yr beautiful thread, but this song has always been the indie Boys of Summer for me
― Chaim Poutine (NickB), Friday, 20 August 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link
tbf i think lamp and i have done our best to keep this thread safe from the types that would throw ppl off it! also lol, 80s pop tunes badly ripped from blurry videos are like chillwave 101.
― plax (ico), Friday, 20 August 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
from my friends fb
"so chillwave is basically badly recorded dreamy synth-pop" ?
― oscar, Friday, 20 August 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link
u should link him to this thread unless he is a db
― plax (ico), Friday, 20 August 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link
yah plax the whole musick to listen to in the dark disc is really good! v proto-chillwave imo
― chill.wav (Lamp), Friday, August 20, 2010 7:36 AM (14 hours ago)
also i dled this on ur rec. and also i always want to listen to more coil and otfm! title of this album is otm too.
― plax (ico), Friday, 20 August 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link
btw this is the best toro y moi track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LfKBP7Q_PM
― plax (ico), Saturday, 21 August 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link
well Blessa is arguably the most chill of his tracksif I had to choose the best, it would either be EDEN, Dead Pontoon (both posted way upthread) or Timed Pleasure:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHqW2EPTcmEhe made so many great tracks anyway
― V79, Saturday, 21 August 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link
this thread is v cool guys, i dig it.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 21 August 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link
a lot of the dancier chillwave stuff leans towards almost being space disco but:
blondes "touched" epactive child "curtis lane" ephatchback "colors of the sun" (proto)delorean "subiza"com truise "cyanide sisters" ep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU14bd92P2g&feature=related
― chill.wav (Lamp), Saturday, 21 August 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Thank you!
― Count Scrofula (corey), Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link
also if you can track down the label sampler by israeli label ak duck "3 years of"
― plax (ico), Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link
blondes "touched" ephatchback "colors of the sun"
love both of these, did not occur to me to think of them as chillwave.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i wasnt sure whether i would get away w/ blondes before but i salute yr fearlessness lamp
― plax (ico), Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link
label sampler by israeli label ak duck "3 years of"
i have this, don't remember where it came from and haven't listened to it. now i will!
― suggest bandt (electricsound), Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i associate "chillwave" with "balearic." is that totally off-base?
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link
they are both quite chill
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, but now i'm thinking one's more chill "chill" and the other's more chill "yacht."
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link
one is more chill "laptop screen" the other is more chill "yacht"
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link
chillin in the blue monitor light and cooling fan hum
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link
― suggest bandt (electricsound), Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:31 AM (10 hours ago)
i think these guys were digging on ariel pink really early on, its kind of an alternate history of chillwave idk ymmv
― plax (ico), Sunday, 22 August 2010 11:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I've often confused Chillwave with Balearic as well except that chillwave is usually more lo fi and druggier sounding.
I still get confused as to what Delorean is classified as because they've always struck me more as Balearic than Chillwave.
And people like Dam-Funk and Onra aren't considered Chillwave, are they?
― MarkoP, Sunday, 22 August 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link
~sad man on him beach~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqQLbWS4CQo
― yentl giant (corey), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 04:31 (thirteen years ago) link
wrong thread?
― jaxon, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link
"i associate "chillwave" with "balearic." is that totally off-base?"
im glad someone brought this up. they share a very similar dna. hazy dreamy music that is made for comedowns or chilling out.the ocean is a prominent metaphor that drives both genres. they also both share a love of nostalgia. "smooth" sounds are also operative for both genres. the only difference is that balearic is meant for dancing at 4 am as you are coming down, chillwave doesnt seem to have much dancing in the cards.altho conceivably one can dance to washed out. i think thats where the difference lies, one genres is driven to dancers, while the others is geared towards rockers, but sonically i hear tons of overlap.
― oscar, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link
am considering getting into sun araw on the basis of this on patrol thing which is excellent. it is exactly what i think chillwave is supposed to be about, ideally (or was supposed to be about, back when it was pure and before hipsters came and ruined it). anyway, i understand from this thread that the categorization of sun araw as chillwave is somehow controversial and part of a contested zone. so am i out of step with consensus in thinking that sun araw is totally chillwave? or how do i get into other stuff that is like this, if maybe there is a thread for that instead?
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link
to think that this music has anything to do w/people that aren't hipsters is just crazy talk
― jaxon, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, have you even seen what sun araw looks like?!
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/22960365/Sun+Araw+CASIOSUN.jpg
― jaxon, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link
no hipsters they are the enemy of all that is pure and true. have you not heard?
guy on left is a train engineer (clearly) and woman has temple of the spirit concerns in mind. hipsters care only about the ways that cocaine can be hidden in shoes.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:07 (thirteen years ago) link
xposts no
― yentl giant (corey), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I am sure someone will tell me I'm doing it wrong but I'm going to pretend chillwave = slightly sad slightly repetitive basic-timbre synth music.
― yentl giant (corey), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link
but it does make me think of those microphones records (i may be the only person alive wholl still cop to liking those...)
I still dig them a bunch, not so much the Mt. Eerie material. Wouldn't call "The Moon" chillwave though.
― Z S, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link
i think of chillwave as spreading out from those sad repetitive vibes to include all the stuff that would sound good on the same playlist and also that those vibes issue forth from. like obviously some anco and black dice, but lots of guitar stuff too because ducktails come on essential to my comprehension. sad, evocative, nostalgic, basic, blurry, homemade, hissy, repetitive, washed out, beachy, summery, chill. not necessarily synths tho. it's not about being narrow.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Wouldn't call "The Moon" chillwave though.
i linked it because i think it fits really well into this idea of proto-chillwave i have - mb not sonically although the intro is p close - particularly the way he portrays nature/the ocean as both isolating & freeing ("the roar of waves, the pounding surf, two bodies on the earth/ it was intense just getting to be there next to you") + the yearning for escape into the past ("i drove up to the city at night and found the place where you grew up") and the wilderness ("i finally felt like I was breathing free").
also i mean a song about love + chilling on a roof & watching the moon + death?
lol
― Lamp, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:58 (thirteen years ago) link
i think thats where the difference lies, one genres is driven to dancers, while the others is geared towards rockers, but sonically i hear tons of overlap.
imm 'chillwave' is kinda hard to define 'sonically' since its a little all over the map although repetition + distortion + synths + space are all important. what makes chillwave stuff different from balearic is the pronounced melancholy streak that chillwave has it wears it anxieties a lot more openly
n e way heres a vid about what chillwave means to me:
http://vimeo.com/12381217
― Lamp, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 06:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Plaxico is the John Peel of chillwave.
― Veðrafjǫrðr heimamaður (ecuador_with_a_c), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 07:41 (thirteen years ago) link
totally feeling these layered/screwed audio/visual experiments
http://muzak.arawa.fm/wordpress/wordpress/?p=1457
― jaxon, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah those were nice. I especially liked "don't ask me" and "save a prayer"
― van smack, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link
damn, if me and my bros had owned recording equipment throughout undergrad we would've been a chillwave band :( regrets...
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 25 August 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCQOluwl5aA
proto-chillwave?
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 25 August 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBgWNWZQhgo
― Lamp, Friday, 27 August 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link
so i'm slowly working my way through sun araw, have not yet heard any of the magic lantern stuff, but HOLY SHIT heavy deeds is incredible. this and on patrol = some of the best and most immediately enjoyable psychedelic guitar music i've heard in ages, up there with back dice, oneida and grouper for quality 21st century production of stretchy head tones.
does previous sun araw come anywhere close to this level of effortless free-form drip & drool?
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 September 2010 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Most things with the label attached don't grab me at all, but I really love this ditty I came across yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0gh1oLOpGU
Is this conceivably chillwave? I may have to reassess all the pointers I've pointedly ignored over the past year...
― No one can penetrate me. (Sanpaku), Thursday, 2 September 2010 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Heavy Deeds is probably my favorite of his. A total monster. You should try to find a copy of Beach Head asap.
― van smack, Thursday, 2 September 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link
have not yet heard any of the magic lantern stuff
you need to get on that too - have it
― van smack, Thursday, 2 September 2010 04:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Proto-chillwave:http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=leonard+cohen+democracy&aq=f
― Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Thursday, 2 September 2010 04:13 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah how to dress well are also great, i <3 that video for decisions
i've had this how-to-dress-well disc on almost constant repeat for a few days now. i had zero interest in it, then -- totally on a whim -- downloaded it and was blown-away. it sounds nothing like my image of "chillwave," though. it sounds like HTDW are doing for late-80s r&b what burial did for late 90s/early 00 uk electronic dance genres.
give me "ghostly-reimaginations" of almost any genre; ghostly grunge; ghostly teenpop; ghostly hair metal.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 25 September 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link
http://chillwitchnamemagic.com/
― Neil S, Monday, 27 September 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
hipster neil young jumping the bandwagon
Featuring eight simplistic “state of the world” songs performed alone by Young on his untamed guitar, Le Noise has been fashioned (via producer Daniel Lanois) into a chillwave record
― who's got the (platform) 9 3/4ths? (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 October 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link