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Maybe the mood is similar, but the two tracks sound very different.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 4 August 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, Adult is still my second favorite album this year.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 4 August 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Here's a link to three videos from the upcoming 'Just Can't Help It' concert DVD:

http://www.toshiba-emi.co.jp/vmc/issue/issue_75.htm

The third one, "Blackout," is especially great. "Mirrorball" is so so...but it's not technically a Tokyo Jihen song. I guess the guitarist (Ukigumi) wrote it for some older band he was in.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:17 (seventeen years ago) link

"Ringo No Uta" is just awesome. (I still haven't checked that new link, what is wrong with me?)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
Some of these 90s singles are just my version of pop heaven. She must have put out at least a few of the catchiest songs of that decade.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Anybody pick up the new 'Just Can't Help It' DVD? I'm going to soon.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
The more I listen to "Waking Up" or whatever it's called the more I am convinced of its parodic intentions, not that that's all that's going on, but it's pretty strong. And wow! this sounds incredibly good. I haven't listened to it much lately.

R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 22 October 2006 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

not sure which song you're speaking of there

in other news: new solo single in january to be followed by full album. looks like it started life as songs written for a soundtrack, but became its own thing.

I did get the Just Can't Help It DVD. A combination of a live show, completely reshot footage on a soundstage identical to the stage from the live show but with no audience, and the band playing in surreal, scenic location shots, all seamlessly edited together -- very disorienting. For the first half, there is no audience on camera, they're only on the soundtrack. But occasionally it really works in a way that further descriptions would spoil. Does not rock as hard as the first live DVD Dynamite Out, a straight document of them just burning, blowing the album versions away -- this one is more of a j-cabaret show. Great though, totally worth getting.

Also the new live versions of the older songs sent me back again to the first album. Which, amazingly, I love now, totally love it -- all the things that were too loud and tasteless now seem fun, all the things that seemed too bombastic & sentimental now work, uh-oh. It was just the surprise of a debauched, sleazy pop record coming after KZK, like someone demanding that you take them to go swing dancing in a dive bar seconds after they've given you the most religiously effective opium you've ever smoked -- fun but seriously complicated

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

oh and cheers for dleone's zazen boys shout out

jasrac petitioned youtube to remove most of their j-pop content, so the live version of 'hard liquor' mentioned upthread where they seamlessly turn the corner into 'immigrant song' isn't up anymore -- too bad

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still very interested, just realizing how broke I am.

R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

new album is solo or jihen?

chaki (chaki), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, it's fucking thirty-six dollars for this, if you can find it. that does factor in. xpost

the other downside of jasrac pulling j-pop from youtube is that the commercially unavailable Domestic! Virgin Line clips from february are gone. Just Can't Help It is better overall, but the live versions of 'Souretsu' and 'Ideal Days For Ultramarine'... those need to come out somewhere soon.

new album is solo!

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

really looking forward to new stuff. I was just listening to KZKNH today, and aside from some lag towards the end, it sounds better than ever.

also, wtf @ the tracklinks to this thread?

A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Saturday, 4 November 2006 03:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I will probably buy a new solo album, I'm sure. No EP. No videos now, because that means buying a new DVD player, which I still haven't done.

tracklinks?

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 4 November 2006 03:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I see. Weird.

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 4 November 2006 03:28 (seventeen years ago) link

trackbacks, i meant.

A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Saturday, 4 November 2006 03:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I got it. I normally don't have that displayed.

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 4 November 2006 03:40 (seventeen years ago) link

How about some free limited edition bonus DVDs for her American fans?

R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 5 November 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Does anyone know what a yokusaku is?

R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 5 November 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Nope. But a "yakusoku" is a promise. If that's what you meant...

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 6 November 2006 01:49 (seventeen years ago) link

From a comment on the blog milton linked to above:

The descriptions given all over the place indicate that the album is an "iyokusaku", just like "KARUKI ZAAMEN KURI NO HANA", so I think Ringo'll be producing the album again.

R_S (RSLaRue), Monday, 6 November 2006 01:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmmm.....
iyoku= desire or ambition

saku= harvest or bloom

Maybe it's those two words put together, I guess that'd kinda make sense. Wanting to blossom creatively or something.... beats me.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 6 November 2006 02:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Shiina Manzanita, hahaha:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC-u0c2w7hg

R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 19 November 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

You can listen to the new song with Soil & Pimp Sessions here:

http://blog.naver.com/delico4u/70010525142

R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 19 November 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Live DVD excerpts showing up on myspace:

http://vidsearch.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=747236124

R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

It may sound backwards, but I'm thinking this Soil & Pimp Sessions collaboration might help Shiina Ringo crossover more outside of Japan. I have run across more people (online) who know about Soil & Pimp than I would have expected. Get a few jazz fans who also have ears for pop and rock and that could be a wedge that opens up more of an audience for SR. (OTOH, her "jazz" singing might not be the best entree for jazz fans. I don't consider her a jazz singer, even if sometimes her attempts in that direction work out. She doesn't sound sufficiently at home in a very jazz-oriented setting to be a jazz singer--too much strain.)

R_S (RSLaRue), Monday, 20 November 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Weird, I was planning on blogging about "Souretsu" because it came up on random and I thought it was Cale and Riley's "Church of Anthrax" at first.

roc u like a § (ex machina), Monday, 20 November 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I love the new song (title translates to 'temporary virgin (deathjazz version)'). need to check out a Soil & Pimp album.

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 20 November 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

ysi?

roc u like a § (ex machina), Monday, 20 November 2006 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

check Leonardo & upthread

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 20 November 2006 23:51 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Looking over these translations, I am finding her lyrics are a lot more consistently dark than I'd realized. (I wish I knew Japanese and that it wouldn't take me forever to learn it if I seriously wanted to.)

(This thread does not come up in ilx search, incidentally.)

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

which means that you have this thread bookmarked, don't you. admit it.

usually, the happier her music, the more devestating the lyrics are. it's the way in to her relentlessly perky new material -- she's singing about double suicide, betrayal, ghosts, the end of the world, graphically uneasy sex with someone she can't trust, etc.

and this new single is incredible. I'm playing it over and over. once again, after a brief intro in japanese, all in english. the bittersweet harmonies going into the chorus, it's actually as sad as it is happy. it's so good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR_OzfBeiSU

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

video, .avi file (worth it to see it big -- reminds me of a Jacques Demy musical). and an mp3 rip. cheers to members migoto & squee.

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I have made the following shiina spottings:

- sampled on O.lamm's new "Monolith" album.
- field recorded on Sarah Peebles' "Walking Through Tokyo At The Turn Of The Century" album

Things I have belatedly noticed on her sleeve art: On Gibusu she is cutting her hand & on Mayonaka wa Junketsu she is a mannequin. I had to see them in person to notice.

xcixxorx (xcixxorx), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

which means that you have this thread bookmarked, don't you. admit it.

Actually, I found it by searching Google and finding it in someone else's bookmarks, which I now do have bookmarked.

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

So what's the deal with her mother being a ballerina, or having been a ballerina? Why haven't I heard more about that angle? That puts the whole fact that she was told she couldn't be a ballerina in a different light.

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 4 January 2007 23:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh my god, I think it's a danzon (not that I particularly like them, but still--cool, man!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrZzsALGkaU

R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 5 January 2007 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually maybe just a tango, but they are kind of related.

R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 5 January 2007 01:17 (seventeen years ago) link

She certainly writes a lot about prostitution.

R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 5 January 2007 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

so is tokyo jihen officially called tokyo incidents? like was it a real change or just something they did for adult?

A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Saturday, 6 January 2007 03:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeah the CD does say Incidents doesn't it? I think everyone still says "Tokyo Jihen" too, including the band.

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 6 January 2007 04:00 (seventeen years ago) link

from the ringo jihen site:

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
#What is the band actually called, Tokyo Jihen or Tokyo Incident?
The real name is Tokyo Jihen (actually the exact transliteration would be Toukyou Jihen), but in some Western sites, and sometimes in TJ's official site, they are called Tokyo Incident, which is none other that the translation of the original name.

A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Saturday, 6 January 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm glad that satisfies you.

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 6 January 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

So now we are waiting for the "solo" Shiina Ringo album Heisei Fuzoku, with the following tracks:

01 - Gamble (ƒMƒƒƒ“ƒuƒ‹)
02 - Kuki (Œs)
03 - Sakuran (TERRA ver.) (ö—)
04 - Hatsukoi Shoujo (ƒnƒcƒRƒC©—)
05 - Papaya Mango (ƒpƒpƒCƒ„ƒ}ƒ“ƒS[)
06 - Ishiki (ˆÓŽ¯)
07 - Yokushitsu (—Žº)
08 - Meisai (–ÀÊ)
09 - Poltergeist (ƒ|ƒ‹ƒ^[ƒKƒCƒXƒg)
10 - Karisome Otome (TAMEIKESANNOH ver.) (ƒJƒŠƒ\ƒ‰³—)
11 - Oiran (‰ÔŠ@)
12 - Yume no Ato (–²‚Ì‚ ‚Æ)
13 - Kono Yo no Kagiri (‚±‚Ì–é‚ÌŒÀ‚è)

Further updates (and a new PV) here:

http://ringoran.wordpress.com/

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 6 January 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I've promised myself that I would take a break from hyping Shiina Ringo, at least until the new CD is out, but I thought it was worth mentioning that apparently Tokyo Jihen's drummer broke his hand, and some people are speculating that that's why SR is putting out this solo album, perhaps as a stopgap measure. (Of course, she was asked to do some songs for a movie, as well, so I guess there might have been some new solo tracks regardless, but perhaps not a whole album.)

R_S (RSLaRue), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Milton, if you see this, there's some interesting new stuff available in the media section of the R. Jihen forum. (Downloading something now.)

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

(well, one interesting new stuff)

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Cover of forthcoming solo album (apparently anyway):

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/s/16/34/TOCT-26210.jpg

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 13 January 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7463/heiseimt2.jpg

R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:52 (seventeen years ago) link

OK I got KZK and it is living up to the hype. Now to find translations of the lyrics.

sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 27 January 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link


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