Let's talk about Vice Magazine

I live in fucking Brooklyn and haven't seen a Vice magazine with my own eyes in two years

― Perry-Louise Markers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, August 17, 2010 3:50 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

DR. WHINEY PHD CULTURAL STUDY #002: Vice Magazine-- does it exist?

I liked Arthur from what I read, is that bad

no, youre doin fine champ

i feel like vice and arthur are two sides of the same coin that each emphasized and are equally responsible for egging on trends in the previous decade that bugged the heck out of me. except that at this point i would sooner put faith in some coked-up vice strawman than devendritus

this is too challenging an opinion for me

really liked the joanna newsom piece erik davis wrote for arthur circa 2006

didnt really read the rag much beyond that

is that the one where she talked about staring at the river for three days and not eating or whatever? yeah, was good

but i remember reading some interview with brightblack morning light that made me almost livid in reaction to how saturated with the worst hippie-ish bullshit of the most fatuous sort it read. and to my mind, that exemplified the way that magazine erred in a big way-- did a total disservice to whatever countercultural pretensions it had, by reaffirming the most naive, facile elements of sixties counterculture. i mean i'm sure that band and the people contributing to the magazine are great folks and all, but ugh i found it maddening.

yep, thats the jn article

haha, i LOVED what arthur stood for and wish it was still here, but I remember reading some article where Marissa Nadler or someone was goin on and on about how awesome it is to roll something in sesame seeds and I was like, "I am clearly not the demo for this."

what was she rolling in sesame seeds?

i like what it could have stood for in theory, otherwise i couldn't be bothered complaining about it, but the execution bummed me out somehow. but maybe i'm just too demanding. i mean, i'm still angry about the smurfs' insulting portrayal of wallooners. fuck you, peyo

important arthur thread
Godsmack taken to task for military recruiting

last three godsmack singles, fwiw:

whiskey hangover
cryin' like a bitch!
love-hate-sex-pain

used to like em in 2004, but wow

anyway

I thought Vice got replaced by hipster runoff

whatever. hro is the ideals magazine of the post-aughties

dunno how hro dude isnt 100% burnt out tbh

i'm thinking he's been farming out posts

but regardless, he/they does seem burnt out. how many ironic pieces can one man write about the legacy of chillwave, or misogynistic-shaded fish-in-barrel shots at pop culture?

maybe hell wake up one day and be all shit man im done with this

or hell keep going until the ad money runs out, which may be never

i appreciate the comedic idiom that he invented, but he seems to have fallen into a trap of his own making. thinking that success has its burdens

I hardly read the site, but it really does seem a dire churn to the bottom. Then deeper.

i dunno that i could ever accuse him of not being committed to his material/approach, tho

i remember something possibly apocryphally attributed to david letterman to the effect of, if you repeat something enough times, it becomes funny, which philosophy carles seems to have taken to heart. i mean even his most taste-free seemingly mean-spirited jokes about whatever indie rock couple du jour or lol tween slutwave facebook internet blah blah blah is somehow funny when he's driven it into the ground circa the millionth blogpost on the subject

granted i only post to ilx for the money, so i guess it's kinda shitty of me to point fingers

gotta give it to him, his is one of the only indie blogs ppl even bother to talk abt anymore

arthur still exists?

― markers, Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it still tweets

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:49 PM

lol @ modern lyfe

indeed

love the broken momus 2006 pic up top. RIP old NYILX

i read the Brightblack piece in Arthur. it made me want to vomit, but then Thurston was there to guide me through underground record stuff, and i was kind of into it. only like one of the bands ever made it anywhere, some of the rest of them still exist in obscurity, from my memory.

um, i just watched the Liberia video they did. what.

vice did. ugh, sorry.

and can we - at some point - stop pretending that new york has anything to do with the rest of the u.s. except in a sort of geological time lag sense. (and somehow i dont think gay clubs in the meat packing district will be one of its great cultural exports to the heartlands in 10-20 years.)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 14 October 2002 01:36 (8 years ago)

Wondering if this prediction still seems as correct. I would say less so.

table - I remember the Brightblack Arthur piece! did you read the hagiographic epic interview with Joanna Newsom?

are we talking about Arthur Magazine in the Let's talk about Vice Magazine thread?

not in a thread-police way but in a general "i'm confused" way here

The travel docs seem to be partyly good and partly o_0

the Liberia one was horribly exploitative and after CNN picked it up the country's economy suffered as a result

i could see that happening. i was more like o_0 at the insane poverty. it reminded me of the article in Harper's a few years back about the slum where Slumdog Millionaire was to have taken place, and even the people depicted in that article seemed better off.

travel docs sound like theyre more about SHOCKIN U than adequate journalism

OTM which has its own place, the problem is CNN picked them up and ran them as adequate journalism

Vice in low journalistic standards shocker

isn't your brother the Arthur Magazine guy, or am i misremembering?

The one on NK had all the standard commentary on NK, which is pretty much all you can expect since everyone who goes there gets the same stage-managed tour. But then there were a couple of really great moments, like the tour guide focusing on how Kim Jong-Il invented the adjustable desk, and the part where the Vice guy sings Anarchy in the UK drunk on the karaoke machine -- about as close to a "safe" subversive thing as you could to on a guided tour of North Korea.

The one about, um, Baluchistan? was pretty awesome -- the mountainous outlaw region in/near pakistan. The bootleg gunmaking industry there is just incredible.

isn't your brother the Arthur Magazine guy

yep. he posts here sometimes.

travel docs sound like theyre more about SHOCKIN U than adequate journalism
--lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej)

Otm

Vice goes to the SOFEX show:

http://www.mtv.com/videos/the-vice-guide-to-everything-ep-4-the-business-of-war-sakawa-boys-bulletproof-tailor-norwegian-black-metal/1654484/playlist.jhtml

Vice magazine is now sending out e-mails consisting of nothing but viral internet meme videos on Youtube, like the Kersall Massive and dumb shit like that. Are they going to reinvent themselves as a slightly less right-wing B3ta or something?
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, July 6, 2006 12:10 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark

??

Vice, the media empire (supposedly).

hope that story makes it into the last season of Entourage

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltot83xQht1qzikspo1_500.jpg

What's with the thick stroke did somebody trace Beavis & Butthead in AI or something?