i checked in and voted in the 2009 year end metal poll a few months ago and it was like an entirely different world. if this was an extension of that, i wouldn't be surprised at all. if the influence of rolling metal denizens has been underemphasized here, it would explain so many things.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link
my #27!
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link
(I only heard that album because my old boss loaned it to me; I was surprised at how much I liked it. Up until recently it was still on my work computer.)
'in the nightside eclipse' is maybe my favorite black metal album but i'm not sure i've ever heard this one ! gotta check it out
― ciderpress, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I think I prefer this one to ...Nightside Eclipse too, don't think I voted for either though. Nice surprise to see it here anyhow.
― Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link
when i talk about rolling metal ppl not voting, im talking about smithy,skot,roxy who refuse to vote in polls. Anyone who reads that thread would know that's what i meant.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Nightside Eclipse is one of my faves too, don't remember if I voted for it - love Emperor.
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
if they had voted, these bm & dm albums that have done oh so very well would probably all be in the top 10.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
yikes I had never read anything about Emperor before
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
The 4 most single-banded ballots had 8 albums by a single artist
so i dig the zep. wadyawant?
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm not fit to comment as i didn't participate here, but pls don't take this so much to heart HGN. love yr dedication to polls like this, and you know, sometimes things get a little heated...
― a CRASBO is a "criminally related" ASBO (contenderizer), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link
this is a good album. don't know about it being a #10 album of all time though. Wouldv'e rather seen A Blaze in the Northern Sky kick off the top ten if it was going to be BM.
― Without warning, a wizard walks by. (Viceroy), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link
i hate all polls except year end albums/trax (and even that is a total drag now) but i love pfunk's sincerity and that will never change
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link
anthems to the welkin is pretty goddam great though
― a CRASBO is a "criminally related" ASBO (contenderizer), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Well jeez, if you'd just said at the outset that a lot of rolling metal posters voted in this, I a) would've known to expect a lot of things I don't recognize and b) wouldn't have been the least bit suspicious when things didn't make sense. But you were really unclear about it and I was left with the understanding that this consisted of ballots from regular ilmers. You see why thinking that and then seeing these results would be a little bizarro, right?
Anyway, now that I know what's what, I'm sorry.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link
ugh I don't think I can really investigate black metal very deeply and continue to live with myself; I am not built for that
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
xp: why the hell would regular ILXors, who mostly rally around either the Animal Collective axis or the dubious modern hip=hop axis, have anything to do with a metal poll
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link
To answer EZ's question, if by "true to other polls" you mean 50,49,48...1, instead of 60,59,58...11, it would have made no difference in the top 5, and only a few minor place-switches in the top 20.
Restricting people to only one album per band would definitely change the results, but without knowing what people would have added to the end of their ballots in place of the disqualified albums, we can't really do that what-if correctly.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link
you did. xp
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
dan tbqh the best way to handle that is to get away from the original bands and find stuff you like from the rest of the genre. because as the years went on and black metal went worldwide things got less fucked up (in general, there are plenty of exceptions of course)
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Personally, i'd've had seven less things on my ballot
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
xxp: yeah, and I don't like Animal Collective or most modern hip-hop!
Mostly I voted because I didn't vote in most of the other polls and thought it would be funny to vote in the one that appeals to me the least.
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks Glenn - I did mean the points per vote, and I'm glad it didn't change much.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Guys can we please discuss these results without the reactionary UGH BLACK METAL, UGH CLASSIC ROCK, UGH STOOGES, UGH DEATH METAL, UGH ANOTHER SLOUGH FEG ALBUM stuff?? I mean, there's plenty of stuff on here that I don't give two shits for, but I generally try to keep my complaining to a minimum and just speak up when I've got some championing to do. And I didn't even vote!
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
A Farewell To Kings no chance of being in the top 10, right
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link
that's pretty fucking funny from a dude who did that through the entire 2009 poll, ilxor
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
FWIW I have no beef with pfunkboy as I didn't receive a confirmation email, even when I sent it a second time. Pretty gutted that I couldn't make a (small) dent in the results, though I'm absoulutely sure they're a genuine reflection of ILX. They've opened my eyes to one of my blind spots, I obviously have some catching up to do.
― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Taking ilxor to heart, I did vote for the last Celtic Frost to place - Monotheist really surprised me, as they were always a band I respected more than liked. One of my favorite records of the last decade.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Johnny, apology accepted. rolling metal thread (and ilx in general) has shitloads of lurkers. In the thousands I believe. Its possible some voted, In every metal poll I've ran I think I've said lurkers are welcome. I have tried to make my polls inclusive, and not just to a select clique. I hope, by doing a 300, all genres have been covered, everyone will check out excellent albums that made the 300, and at least I now have the incentive to check out these 2nd wave of Norwegian BM albums that, as a total false metaller as i get called on the rolling metal thread, haven't really done.
Now lets just get on with the poll so we can roll out needle at the end.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link
9 Saint Vitus · Born Too Late (1986) (936 Points, 24 votes)http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000000M16.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/6CyKigkGRtW3xTDZczqlRC
yeah, i love emperor, but can't condone the zyklon b bullshit, or separate them from that. have basically stopped listening to "classic" BM due to my inability to deal w stuff like this.
― a CRASBO is a "criminally related" ASBO (contenderizer), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link
born too late is so fucking badass
Yeah well good point, though I do try to interject with more "complaining" LOL-worthy asides and less so OMG THERE IS A BLACK METAL ALBUM IN THE TOP 20, I WILL SB EVERY VOTER ONCE I SEE YR BALLOTS, THESE RESULTS HAVE GOT TO BE MADE UP...
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link
dudes, even though i realized early on that BM/Doom would be exceptionally well represented here, even i didn't expect this kind of an onslaught. results for me = weird but interesting.
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Now that everyone's happy again, let's have a dance party. I'm bringing my Kiss records. You bring your mom and dad.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link
It's what gets discussed on the rolling thread a lot. Most of these doom/bm/dm albums are in their respective canons. It's not like some obscure albums that only 3 people have heard made it.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm really happy with the heavy rock/stoner/doom/Sabbath-disciple segment being well-represented. Don't care much for death metal or black metal. The classic stuff is admittedly a blind spot, so it's cool to see these albums place and check them out and then finally get into some new OLD bands (Maiden, Slayer, Venom, Danzig) and, of course, confirm my dislike for others.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link
To think everyone was bummed about the Manics making the list
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link
this might have been my #1 if i had voted, but no chance sadly
― ciderpress, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link
yaaaa! now we're talking top 10!
― Without warning, a wizard walks by. (Viceroy), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Saint Vitus at #9 is a total shock to me, and a great surprise.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Glenn just told me that Decibel had Saint Vitus - Born Too Late in their Hall Of Fame articles a wee while ago.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Born Too Late was my #44, but at least I have some kind of relationship with an album in the top 10. Was beginning to worry I wouldn't.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
I ended up ranking 2112 higher because "A Passage To Bangkok" > "Closer To The Heart", but sometimes "Cygnus X-1" is my favorite thing they ever recorded.
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Dopesmoker in the top ten (five?) whodathunkit?
― ha, wolves, what a bunch of sissies (Ioannis), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link
also I should have ranked Hemispheres higher
man now I need to buy all of the Rush albums in addition to all of the Iron Maiden albums
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Dopethrone, you mean? Dopesmoker was #16.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link
8 Black Sabbath · Paranoid (1970) (976 Points, 20 votes - ONE #1 vote)http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf800/f802/f80256rrz9b.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/0bTXmU5Ko3a1PFjdvaaPR2
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 August 2010 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link
If I hadn't thrown out all my cassettes 10 years ago, I'd have given them to you.
(Plenty of cassettes I should've held on to, to be sure. That was before I realized I could turn them into mp3s.)
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link