YOU TOTALLY MISSED THE ILX HEAVY ROCK/METAL ALBUM POLL COUNTDOWN, SUCKA (CLICK FOR A RECAP)

actual lol xp

herman already said on several occasions that the rolling metal thread people didn't take part, which, if they did, I wouldn't think these results were so strange. but if they're not voting, then who the hell are the people that gave us results like these?

were they shipped in from elsewhere? because if it's regular ilmers just voting in a metal poll on a whim, I'd expect a lot more "falseness".

no, this isn't about me being butthurt over hair metal's absence. i knew that was an uphill battle in the first place.

i would think there's at least SOME rolling metal thread people on here based on this results list. maybe there's an army of rolling metal lurkers...

really have no idea on the top 10, theres probably a bunch of classic-rock stuff that hasn't shown up yet (zep 4?) in there

opeth - still life or blackwater park ?
death - symbolic ?

Three more Sabbath albums to come - no idea what order they'll be in though, or what'll be #1.

I still think Zep IV is #1

Speaking of false, I just switched to black.css and now I feel like it's that first day that I made my mom drive me to the mall to pick up Metallica's black album on cassette, but I haven't got it home to listen to it yet so I'm just sitting in the minivan hoping that this is gonna be AJFA II.

i voted for Filosofem simply cause it's the greatest BM album i've ever heard. full stop. doesn't mean i wanna have dinner with the creep.

(which coming from the dude who couldn't do simple math on the TV poll is actually kind of funny)

I was high on antihistamine.

OK my guess for #1: Reign In Blood.

I think Gavin is OTM. Reign in Blood for #1.

at any rate my point is "stop acting like a dick"

don't forget the black album.

That was such a magical car ride.

Is Jane Doe gonna place in the top 10?

ummm, results of this whole thing look 100% ILX-legit, including skew towards classic rock in the top 100 and black metal in the closing stretch. don't see what the problem is.

Jane Doe was up this morning in the 20s, I think. xp

Any chance of a quick recap? Back to No.40 or so will be enough

i was too young and un-discerning when i was first into metallica to even realize that the black album was a big step down in metal-ness. i dug it just as much as the others.

Ah, missed it. Ok, so watch Mellon-Collie + the Infinite Sadness be in the top 10. lol.

That's awesome. I'm glad you did. Like, I'd rather somebody enjoy something than hate something, or ambivilantly grapple with something.

xp

what the hell is going on in here?

are people actually getting butthurt about the results of a poll in which less than 30 people voted?

I never should've gotten my hands dirty with this poll in the first place. Maybe it's legit. Maybe I don't know fellow ilmers' tastes like I thought I did. Maybe I only know ten of the people who even voted in this poll. If that's the case, fine. But since we've never done an all-time metal/hard rock poll, I was assuming a lot of the people who voted in the decade and/or half-decade polls would've chimed in and that's not been the case really. I'm left wondering who these voters were.

Anyway, I'm shutting up now.

In an internet poll with <100 random people, most of whom aren't even using their real names, what the hell would "validity" mean?

Also, hard to have much "vote-splitting" with 50 slots. The 4 most single-banded ballots had 8 albums by a single artist, so even those guys had 42 more votes to give. Nobody stuffed their top 5 with a single artist, or even just 2 artists, and only 4 voters had top 5s with just 3 artists.

i didn't vote in this one because i was away on vacation

i suspect there's a bit of poll fatigue around here lately though (and all those tournament polls certainly wouldn't be helping, if that's true)

That's def true, and this came right after that huge 2005-2009 poll

johnny do you read rolling metal?

if you don't read rolling metal this poll isn't going to make a hell of a lot of sense

Glenn -

is there an easy way to see what would have happened if the point allocation had stayed true to other polls? I'd be interested to see what difference that made.

Nope, but herman said a few times that rolling metal voters didn't have much of anything to do with this poll. THAT is why I think it's weird.

I wouldn't really trust things kerr says in general. (<3 kerr)

rolling metal posters, rather. xp

right, i did go to make & eat dinner. My eyes needed a break, before i left i saw bill making a joke about the results being made up. Now i come back to find johnny fever actually accusing us of making the results up. I'm disgusted with you johnny. Joking is one thing, but what you have done is over the score. It's just not on.

The results were tabulated by the program, the program will not make a mistake. I had to format the emails into a .csv file. then it was uploaded to needle, then glenn double checked this. Nothing was made up. Every single vote for tracks & albums came via email. NOTHING WAS MADE UP you got that? Glenn is busy at his actual job just now, but he will no doubt post on this later.
any mistakes that were made (kjb's tracks ballot) were by me, and i apologised to kjb. Billy Dods emails simply didn't arrive, he did not receive an automated reply to the 1st email like everyone else did.

Johnny, you have completely spoiled all the fun in this poll for me. as far as im concerned, its ruined. I will post the remaining results even though I really dont want to now. As stated way back at the beginning, needle will be opened up to the public, and you can see everything! We have nothing to hide.
My one regret is that I did not stipulate that everyone post their ilx username. Most emails did not have this (tho i guessed some from email addresses/usernames). But I assure you, NOTHING WAS MADE UP, these votes ALL came by email., many of them were by people who voted in previous ilm metal polls as i recognise the names/emails. Previous results of the polls are also on needle i think.

Now before I continue with the results, I would just like to say, that I'm not willing to run any more email polls. I wash my hands of them, i will not accept aspersions on my or my other co-runners integrity. I'm disgusted. If johnny fever or anyone else wishes to run the EOY poll, then please do so. But I do not want to have anything to do with it anymore.

Now on to album #10, which made it into the top 10 thanks to the last minute vote of J3ff. (he is a real person, Johnny).

10 Emperor · Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk (1997) (921 Points, 21 votes)
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/9/2/92.jpg

i checked in and voted in the 2009 year end metal poll a few months ago and it was like an entirely different world. if this was an extension of that, i wouldn't be surprised at all. if the influence of rolling metal denizens has been underemphasized here, it would explain so many things.

my #27!

(I only heard that album because my old boss loaned it to me; I was surprised at how much I liked it. Up until recently it was still on my work computer.)

'in the nightside eclipse' is maybe my favorite black metal album but i'm not sure i've ever heard this one ! gotta check it out

I think I prefer this one to ...Nightside Eclipse too, don't think I voted for either though. Nice surprise to see it here anyhow.

when i talk about rolling metal ppl not voting, im talking about smithy,skot,roxy who refuse to vote in polls. Anyone who reads that thread would know that's what i meant.

Nightside Eclipse is one of my faves too, don't remember if I voted for it - love Emperor.

if they had voted, these bm & dm albums that have done oh so very well would probably all be in the top 10.

yikes I had never read anything about Emperor before

The 4 most single-banded ballots had 8 albums by a single artist

so i dig the zep. wadyawant?

i'm not fit to comment as i didn't participate here, but pls don't take this so much to heart HGN. love yr dedication to polls like this, and you know, sometimes things get a little heated...

this is a good album. don't know about it being a #10 album of all time though. Wouldv'e rather seen A Blaze in the Northern Sky kick off the top ten if it was going to be BM.

i hate all polls except year end albums/trax (and even that is a total drag now) but i love pfunk's sincerity and that will never change

anthems to the welkin is pretty goddam great though

Well jeez, if you'd just said at the outset that a lot of rolling metal posters voted in this, I a) would've known to expect a lot of things I don't recognize and b) wouldn't have been the least bit suspicious when things didn't make sense. But you were really unclear about it and I was left with the understanding that this consisted of ballots from regular ilmers. You see why thinking that and then seeing these results would be a little bizarro, right?

Anyway, now that I know what's what, I'm sorry.