Belle and Sebastian - who on ILX will be right about Write About Love?

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in other words, annoying people are annoying

call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 August 2010 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link

wtf is rong with people who knit - winter isn't that far away and the tories are making everything, presumably including heating, uber expensive

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 12 August 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man. This thread wins because someone posted the My Lovely Horse clip. <3 <3 <3.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Thursday, 12 August 2010 01:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay we just need BeeOK for the full set I think

haha, i got nothin'

Bee OK, Thursday, 12 August 2010 02:41 (thirteen years ago) link

excited about this, can't wait for new stuff

Bee OK, Thursday, 12 August 2010 02:42 (thirteen years ago) link

do b&s fans from '96 still like the '10 version of the band?

Well, I was a huge fan in '96 and will still stan for the first four albums hardcore. Wasn't as big a fan of the last two but saw them when they toured for both those albums and they were incredible live.

BTW, I have no idea who those two bands you mentioned are and I don't think I'm one of the annoying twee types people are talking about although I have met some and yes, they were British.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Thursday, 12 August 2010 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh and I've already bought tickets to see them in October so I guess I'll probably buy this album eventually so I'm not totally in the dark.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Thursday, 12 August 2010 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link

i liked the last few albums and i'm excited for this one. not like jumping out of my chair excited, but b&s don't really inspire much in me besides quiet muted happiness

Mordy, Thursday, 12 August 2010 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm standing up out of my chair, going to the liquor cabinet and making myself a nice drink excited.

the disappearance of apollo creed (s1ocki), Thursday, 12 August 2010 02:55 (thirteen years ago) link

do b&s fans from '96 still like the '10 version of the band?

We'll see. There's a lot to like in both Dear Catastrophe Waitress and Life Pursuit and the new one will probably be similar, if also probably a few steps down the path to shinier/more compressed/more poppy. I don't need the angsty twee of the first few all the time but they will always be my favorites.

skip, Thursday, 12 August 2010 04:05 (thirteen years ago) link

take away the lyrics and you can't really call the first 3 albums angsty twee. then you are just left with a lot of top notch music

lyrics mean close to nil with me (except poignantly awkward or bad lyrics which annoy me when they appear in otherwise great songs). I much prefer vocal lines (rhythm and harmony), tone of voice, and everything else about the vocals than the actual lyrics. (however I do strongly prefer to listen to singing in my native language)

you doesn't hasta call me johnson (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 12 August 2010 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link

don't disagree with any of that, which is probably a major reason this band is a favorite.

skip, Thursday, 12 August 2010 04:19 (thirteen years ago) link

speaking of fans, are there still pop art retro art movie 60's girls like the one on the real cover? i never see any anymore. they might all work in vintage clothing stores though and i don't frequent those. the cover says: we are going back to our worshipping 80's people who worshipped people from the 60's roots, man! which is cool. someone needs to take a stand. i thought they had gotten more modern recently. i liked that waitress album! i'd never really listened to them before that. probably cuz i still listen to old school twee.

scott seward, Thursday, 12 August 2010 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link

are there still pop art retro art movie 60's girls like the one on the real cover?

there are def some around my town

kshighway61 revisited (electricsound), Thursday, 12 August 2010 04:43 (thirteen years ago) link

every couple of years i see a mod. on a scooter! warms my heart.

scott seward, Thursday, 12 August 2010 04:46 (thirteen years ago) link

every few years when i lived in philadelphia i would see a roving band of skinheads! for real! they would be drunk and throw things at old ladies and kick dogs or whatever. so cool! i have no idea where they came from. just passing through.

scott seward, Thursday, 12 August 2010 04:48 (thirteen years ago) link

have nostalgic feelings about getting into a hardman staredown/near fight with gross philly proles at a B&S show once upon a time. fuckers...

a CRASBO is a "criminally related" ASBO (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 August 2010 05:17 (thirteen years ago) link

the famous philly thing is they cancelled their very first show there! it was a VERY big deal, i'll have you know. everyone was waiting for them to go on, but penelope or someone had the sniffles and they couldn't go on. they played like a year later or something for everyone who came that night. or something like that. many twee tears shed that night! many damp sweaters.

scott seward, Thursday, 12 August 2010 05:21 (thirteen years ago) link

this must have been at their fifth philly show or something, like 2005. no big deal. was kinda itching for bloodshed tbh, cuz i busted my knuckles at a belle & sebastian show would have been a good story. but nothing came to pass.

a CRASBO is a "criminally related" ASBO (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 August 2010 05:44 (thirteen years ago) link

LOL at "Penelope or someone had the sniffles"

are there still pop art retro art movie 60's girls like the one on the real cover?

The girl on the cover is in a Glasgow band called "Zoey von Goey" that S. Murdoch produced.

Becky Facelift, Thursday, 12 August 2010 07:44 (thirteen years ago) link

the boy with the arab strap is classic; the eps preceding it are mostly classic as well. it's just pop/rock music, guys, no need to wind yourselves into a tizzy. fold your hands is 2/3rds dogshit but dear catastrophe waitress truly surprised me w/its greatness so i am very much interested in hearing this new one.

hobbes, Thursday, 12 August 2010 07:55 (thirteen years ago) link

"it's just pop/rock music, guys, no need to wind yourselves into a tizzy."

^^^^ totally. In fact when I heard them for the first time the thing that grabbed me was how Lazy Line Painter Jane channelled the Velvets Live 1969 sound.

That said, I reckon they peaked with Tigermilk and the first 3 eps. It's been steadily diminishing returns ever since.

Officer Pupp, Thursday, 12 August 2010 08:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, DCW is my favourite overall, though I just couldn't get into TLP and that God Help the Girl thing. So, I'm not exactly clamouring for the newie. Just hope it's a Return To Form yo.

I've only seen B&S live once, and some of the audience were the most obnoxious people.

Born too beguiled (DavidM), Thursday, 12 August 2010 08:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think I'm one of the annoying twee types people are talking about although I have met some and yes, they were British.

― o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Thursday, August 12, 2010 3:48 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

LOL

unchill english bro (history mayne), Thursday, 12 August 2010 08:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought DCW and Life Pursuit were both great, so I'm stoked for this.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Thursday, 12 August 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Hooray for B&W brunette hipster woman on the sleeve. Murdo's back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PaulTMA, Thursday, 12 August 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

stuart murdah

the disappearance of apollo creed (s1ocki), Thursday, 12 August 2010 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't like life pursuit at all but loved waitress. of course I'll listen to this, and I'm seeing them live as well (but only because they're playing the treasure island fest with other bands I want to see).

akm, Thursday, 12 August 2010 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

x-post Didn't Stuart Murdoch start the Philly show in boxing gloves and shorts, entering the stage to the "Rocky" theme? I'm not joking.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 August 2010 13:44 (thirteen years ago) link

i thought everyone had to do that when they played a show in philly...?

the disappearance of apollo creed (s1ocki), Thursday, 12 August 2010 13:44 (thirteen years ago) link

That would explain his guitar playing anyway

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 August 2010 13:44 (thirteen years ago) link

i thot they all listened to very truly yours and the motifs these days

― kshighway61 revisited (electricsound), Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

weird, people outside of Chicago know about Very Truly Yours? I assumed they were just a local deal.

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 12 August 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link

x-post Didn't Stuart Murdoch start the Philly show in boxing gloves and shorts, entering the stage to the "Rocky" theme? I'm not joking.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Yes. Later in the show Stuart brought out a box of t-shirts and asked which audience members had been at the canceled performance. Those who had raised their hands, walked in an orderly fashion to the stage, waited patiently in line to be handed t-shirts, and returned to their seats without incident. Yes, there were many sweaters and eyeglasses. It was twee as fuck, and one of the most splendid moments in humanity I have witnessed on earth. The show then resumed and frankly I wish it were still going on right now.

Fruitless and Pansy Free (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Friday, 13 August 2010 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link

weird, people outside of Chicago know about Very Truly Yours? I assumed they were just a local deal.

i came across them by accident on emusic, but i love their record. found out that a friend of mine also was into them.. so yeah they have a modest oz fanbase as well

kshighway61 revisited (electricsound), Friday, 13 August 2010 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, VTY has made its way around the internet/tweeverse (same thing?). A little too amateurish and sloppy for me but I guess some people find that charming.

skip, Friday, 13 August 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link

just be thankful none of their fans get their knitting out during a gig ;)

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname)

B&S fans are being encouraged to knit about love.

Anywho, I'm hoping for more TLS-type stuff from this. Wasn't maybe as consistent as some of their other albums but I return to the high points ("Another Sunny Day", "Sukie", "White Collar Boy", Dress Up In You" especially) again and again (thank you, Lord, for the iPod). Strangely, DCW never really clicked with me. If they're going back to their fey roots or whatever, I can probably do without that.

Super stoked for Vengeance Rising, too.

spazzercise (staggerlee), Saturday, 14 August 2010 14:10 (thirteen years ago) link

glad people are hearing VTY, it's not my favorite kind of music but they are nice people and opened at my former band's last show

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 16 August 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

actual album cover:

http://cdn.pitchfork.com/media/bs.jpg

heterosexist matrix of desire (Gukbe), Monday, 16 August 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Are you serious? They're lowercasing "about"?

jaymc, Monday, 16 August 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

nothing wrong with knitting, btw (I have never seen anyone knitting at a Belle and Sebastian gig, or at any other gig).

ailsa, Monday, 16 August 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

It really does look like the B&S equivalent of the fake Studio album covers in that thread.

Becky Facelift, Monday, 16 August 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

we need a thread of sleeves made by band members who shouldn't be entrusted to design sleeves. it's a nice typeface though.

meanwhile you can hear a bit of one of the songs here:

http://www.belleandsebastian.com/newsstory.php?id=505

it joins the ranks of some other fine b & s kitchendancing classics

baby i know that you think i'm just a lion (schlump), Monday, 16 August 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

they have leaked their first song, title track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ7ZYSNrn-Y

Bee OK, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link

God I really hoped that was fake. The cover at the start of the thread is a million times better.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, I'll go next then. The song is... slight. I like it. It has many of my favorite chords. As you know, the title track to 'The Life Pursuit' never made it to the actual album, despite being a good song. I'm looking forward to a US tour. I'm grasping at straws. No, it's fine.

Fruitless and Pansy Free (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 03:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Will be fine when buying coffee on cold, early mornings this winter.

commonly referred to as Olde E ,Olde Executioner, Dat Ol' 8hundo and 8-Ba (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 03:36 (thirteen years ago) link

not very thrilled

false prophets talk in metaphors (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 04:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I like it. It has many of my favorite chords.

haha

(b)clam(/b) (crüt), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 04:55 (thirteen years ago) link

man, descending (then briefly rising) progression at the start is lifted, like directly, from something, but i can't for the life of me say what. songs is the kind of thing they do now, note perfect 60s/70s pop pastiche, owes everything to squeeze but strikes me as lifeless.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link

i hate this?, but at least it is related to the officeplace

FORTIFIED STEAMED VEGETABLE BOWL (schlump), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Richard X remix of "I Didn't See It Coming"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZZlcS50qzw&feature=youtu.be

Gukbe, Friday, 17 June 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

Bob Stanley should sue.

everything, Friday, 17 June 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

ten years pass...

Listening to this album for the first time in a long time and it’s not nearly as disappointing as I recall it being at the time. No, it’s not among their best work but the drop-off in quality is not as steep as I remember it being. Most of the first half is really great. The Norah Jones duet is still a bit of a low point (not because of her, it’s just a little sappier and on the nose than typical B&S). The second half of the album is not bad at all, it’s just a bit average for a band 15 years intro their career.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 12 September 2021 15:29 (two years ago) link

Don't really care for this album but 'I Didn't See It Coming' is a favourite, one brilliant track is more than you get on most albums.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 12 September 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

"Come On Sister" is as good as any of the good songs on the first 3LP/4EP golden era.

This whole run is some of Stuart at his most melodically daring:

"Don't touch me
If you touch me you could never go back
Faith
Come on, sister have a drink
Have a seat at the bar
Tell me all about your men
And your hopes
And the hours of your life"

When I was on tw@tter ages ago, Stuart tweeted that he forgot how to play the song and he had to watch this youtube cover (the only cover of it on youtube) to relearn it and he was really impressed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ7N69Iikoo

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 12 May 2023 03:48 (eleven months ago) link

seconding that. easily the highlight of this album + one of their best.

my beard exists more than i do. (Austin), Friday, 12 May 2023 04:15 (eleven months ago) link

my fav on this album is 'write about love'

johnny crunch, Friday, 12 May 2023 11:13 (eleven months ago) link


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