Gay Marriage to Alfred: Your Thoughts

holy frijoles

next thing you know they'll be coming over the border to have babies in our hospitals

Yeah their GAY babies. Oh wait.

The Federal District's wedding industry is about to go full throttle!

gay marriage, ick, what's next, women getting paid the same as men? To think being a U.S. citizen used to MEAN something!

Ted Olson!

http://www.youtube.com/v/EJwSprkiInE&feature=player_embedded&fs=1&hl=en

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, August 9, 2010 9:50 AM (2 days ago)

man this might be just me there's something beautiful about reading or watching normally-awful conservatives be otm about things, i dunno why. cf that time beck backed the times square bomber's miranda rights or olsen's own article on gay rights earlier this year

Olson's wife Booth has described herself as a registered Democrat. She has contributed to the campaigns of Barack Obama and Rudy Giuliani.

huh

ha shakey maybe you're not familiar with many democrats

...might just be me *BUT there's...

Olson's first wife Barbara famously perished on one of the 9-11 planes.

Courtesy Nate Silver:

http://www.538host.com/ssm8810.png

bipartisan phallus noted in polling data

Waiting for those lines to plateau...

this wikipedia paragraph from the same-sex marriage entry is lol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage#Nepal

hahaha

Waiting for those lines to plateau...

― jaymc, Thursday, 12 August 2010 14:13 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

lol

Glenn Beck leaves O'Reilly flabbergasted.

Glenn Beck needs to leave this Earth

Freedom to Marry is reporting that Judge Walker has lifted the stay on his ruling striking down Proposition 8, meaning couples are free to marry in California.

http://www.towleroad.com/2010/08/judge-removes-stay-on-prop-8-ruling-gay-couples-can-marry.html

whoohoo!

That's good news.

Who wants to marry me? I flip a mean ham omelet.

I'm in. I get paid tomorrow, so this is good timing.

I'll defrost the ham.

This is the best marriage proposal exchange I've ever known.

He's removed the stay but only effective at the end of the day on the 18th.

Shush! We're talking ham here.

In anticipation, people were lined up outside City Hall in SF. :(

Who wants to marry me? I flip a mean ham omelet.

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:13 PM (41 minutes ago)

THATS JUST WRONG

beck killing it there! add it to the examples i said upthread

esp. love when he says abortion is killing <3 <3 <3

well yeah he is a atrocious human being you won't get an argument from me; my point is it's weirdly gratifying to watch someone who's wrong about everything be otm about something you care about

yeah i get u

I... God help me but I kinda like it when he says, "Will the gays come to get us??"

haha no shame needed that was just objectively hilarious

O'Reilly didn't like that "Thomas Jefferson" business.

http://www.bilerico.com/2010/08/i_love_having_non-marital_sex_with_you.php

I like your comment there.

this is how i roll

aaand... they're blocked again in California

i'm glad someone is finally thinking of the children in this debate (children = sexless middle aged adults)

opposing arguments need more SCARY SPONTANEOUS CAPITALIZATION if they want to up their cred imo

btw this is a lot of reading (and it is referring to Ireland, not the US), but the comments section underneath is totally amazing and altogether this is pretty much the best thing I have ever read about Gay Marriage

http://theantiroom.wordpress.com/2010/08/16/not-the-marrying-kind-ready

except when noted dumbass una mu11aly shows up at the end

hmmm. this is v. interesting

Of the many smart moves Judge Walker made in his 136-page opinion last week, the smartest was his unveiling of a central hiding-in-plain-sight fact: the change in society’s expectations about what partnership in a marriage entails. “Marriage between a man and a woman was traditionally organized based on presumptions of a division of labor along gender lines” until recently, he said. “Men were seen as suited for certain types of work and women for others. Women were seen as suited to raise children and men were seen as suited to provide for the family.”

Judge Walker cited the advent of no-fault divorce (which New York is about to become the 50th state to adopt) as a marker of how the legal system no long prescribes roles for marriage partners based on their sex. Evidence at the trial, he said, showed “the movement of marriage away from a gendered institution and toward an institution free from state-mandated gender roles.” As a result, the judge continued, “gender is not relevant to the state in determining spouses’ obligations to each other and to their dependents,” and “gender no longer forms an essential part of marriage; marriage under law is a union of equals.”

Judge Walker’s conclusion was that Proposition 8, the state constitutional amendment confining marriage to opposite-sex couples, “thus enshrines in the California Constitution a gender restriction that the evidence shows to be nothing more than an artifact of a foregone notion that men and women fulfill different roles in civil life.” Proposition 8 “mandates that men and women be treated differently based only on antiquated and discredited notions of gender.”

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/12/hiding-in-plain-sight/

Walker is better than me.

Well, I mean he's among the large crowd of those who are better than me, but he's better than them too.

looks like Prop 8 is doomed

If you presume that Protect Marriage will be found not to have standing, but is that such a sure thing?

not a rhetorical question, necessarily

I'll defer to the more experienced legal scholars around here, but I'm unaware of any precedent where private citizens have been authorized to represent the State in court. Can't really conceive of a feasible legal argument that would allow that.