The Miracle of the Smiths

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I know it's in bad taste to go "OMG this thread is so good!!!"

But yeah, OMG this thread is so good!!!

FRESH MEAT (MFB), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 19:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

It is good! (today's stinking it up a bit, though)

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 20:03 (seven years ago) Permalink


Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 20:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

it was my emoticon, wasn't it ... :(

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 20:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Still no Smiths action figures...

Born too beguiled (DavidM), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 20:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sorry Ned, now I feel bad.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 20:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

actually wait a second, what is andy cairns from therapy and that guy from sum 41 doing in mozza's band?

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 20:57 (seven years ago) Permalink


seger ros (crüt), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 21:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

you know I looked at the name of that URL and still I thought it was going to be of action figures

people are for loving (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 21:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

As for "having a car with *'only'* a tape deck"... jeez. That's what I call living in the World's Only Remaining Superpower.

I still think of this post, often, when driving

Teddybears.SHTML (sic), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

in case you missed this:

Search and Destroy : New Order

Bee OK, Friday, 27 August 2010 04:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

umm, i missed it, but that is one of the most amazing album covers i've ever seen. please let that be real.

a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Friday, 27 August 2010 04:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

To re-revive:

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 October 2010 14:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Don't like the sound of Wnr Br0$ shutting their blog down. Surely they'd have bigger fish to fry.. ah well let's hope so.

Meanwhile there's a brilliant How To Buy The Smiths article right at the back of MOJO December issue which just came out in the uk. It goes for Hatful.. as the best album, as voted for by writers and members of MOJO forum. I concur!

piscesx, Saturday, 30 October 2010 10:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Heads up, folks. It's started:

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 31 October 2010 12:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

didn't really 'get' the smiths until recently - this will be a good way back in. cheers!

dayo, Sunday, 31 October 2010 12:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

i can see just from the first blog post that i'll be learning a few things here. and there was me fancying myself as some kind of Smiths expert!
what was Brixton Ace i wonder? never heard of it before.

piscesx, Sunday, 31 October 2010 19:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

this is going to be fun, those cover scans are incredible.

ILB's biggest fanboy for the SF Giants (Bee OK), Monday, 1 November 2010 01:33 (seven years ago) Permalink


piscesx, Monday, 1 November 2010 02:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

well i didn't think it possible to make the smiths interesting in 2010, but here we are

Sniiiiip! (electricsound), Monday, 1 November 2010 02:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

hand in glove was amazing, thanks for posting the updates about this...would have had no idea.

skip, Monday, 1 November 2010 03:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

shocked by how excited I am for this

Mark, Monday, 1 November 2010 03:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

had no idea about a planned RATF single. Jeane was always a brilliant song. one of the few lesser known B sides thanks to it's exclusion from the 80's era compilations.

piscesx, Monday, 1 November 2010 04:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

I like how dismissive the post is about morrissey

dayo, Monday, 1 November 2010 04:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah I find it weird that someone could be a smiths fanboy w/o being a morrissey fanboy, at least on some level

iatee, Monday, 1 November 2010 05:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Not really -- I've encountered enough people over time who are very explicitly all about Marr and the music above all else, and who really don't bother with Morrissey solo much. They're a smaller and much less visible group of Smiths fans than the expected norm, but they're there.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 November 2010 05:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

well I can understanding not liking his solo career - I personally don't like much beyond the singles - but his persona and lyrics are such a major part of 'the miracle of the smiths'...

iatee, Monday, 1 November 2010 05:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

but yeah, people are weird

iatee, Monday, 1 November 2010 05:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

morrissey as a person does my head in to be honest. that night he flounced offstage last year in Liverpool after 1 song was the last straw for me. The Smiths are still my fave band of the 80s by some distance but his solo career could make a good 6 track mini album at best imho.

piscesx, Monday, 1 November 2010 05:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

Morrissey has evolved an not always in ways I have found satisfying as I, too, have evolved. He has a couple of singles I like but The Smiths was the great musical love of my adolescence and that doesn't mean I have to keep following now. Ned, I love Marr but the last time he was in town fronting his forgettable band, I actually yawned and ended up leaving.

A Reclaimer Hewn With (Michael White), Monday, 1 November 2010 16:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

Haha believe me, I couldn't even muster that level of interest for Marr solo.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 November 2010 16:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

one time an old band i was in did a bunch of smiths covers for a cover band contest.

was really interesting learning their material....gave us such an appreciation for them as musicians...marr's parts are incredibly odd and difficult to learn, such a personal style of playing guitar (and frankly or guitarist had to just get it "close" esp on the more picky stuff)...

another thing that really sticks out when you sit down and learn the parts is how amazing rourke and joyce are as a rhythm section....rourke's bass lines are so melodic and invenetive, even if he's not really "showy" in a classic musicianly way....

another weird thing, is that sometimes the parts weren't the "right" number of in general in rock it will be okay well four bars of this, then sixteen bars of that, then eight bars of the chorus, etc etc...def EVEN numbers

sometimes with the smiths it would be well four bars, then eight, then FIVE, then twelve or was usually apparent that they were conforming the songwriting to whatever lyrics morrissey had and not vice versa...

underrated joe perry project albums i have sold (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 November 2010 16:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

My favourite memory was Andy Rourke's remark on Marr singing a melody line along with Morrissey during a session, saying they sounded like Peters and Lee.

(check the harmonies on Electronic's "Get the message")

Mark G, Monday, 1 November 2010 16:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

ah, this stuff sounds great thus far ... deep smiths immersion begins NOW.

tylerw, Monday, 1 November 2010 16:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

Why I am still so geeked to hear this? I should have grown out of this by now.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Monday, 1 November 2010 16:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

drums sound way bigger on this reel around the fountain.

underrated joe perry project albums i have sold (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 November 2010 17:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

what was Brixton Ace i wonder? never heard of it before.

I think it's the Fridge now.

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 1 November 2010 17:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, all those troy tate mixes are pretty sweet.

tylerw, Monday, 1 November 2010 17:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

Cannot wait to get home tonight to dl these! Figures that the week I quit obsessively checking the blog every day it would finally launch.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 1 November 2010 18:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

never heard the Tate bootleg sound so good as on Accept Yourself here.

piscesx, Monday, 1 November 2010 18:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i actually compared my copy of the tate sessions to the tracks they've posted and it's a huge improvement.

tylerw, Monday, 1 November 2010 18:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Figures that the week I quit obsessively checking the blog every day it would finally launch.

In 2010 people aren't using RSS feeds?

Google Reader please.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 00:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

this is from an eno interview i read yesterday...don't know if it had been suggested prior or whether 'pop in 85' really did mean 'them, the smiths', automatically

...What do you think of modern pop music?

I rather like them, The Smiths. I think they're a good band. I think Morrissey is an extraordinarily arrogant person, especially considering that he's probably the most successful tone-deaf singer the world has ever knows. But that being said, I like his singing quite a lot, and I like their records. I could live without some of his studied miserableness, I suppose.

But I don't listen to records much.

Terminal Boredoms (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 00:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i actually compared my copy of the tate sessions to the tracks they've posted and it's a huge improvement.

These all sound so much better than the Tate sessions I already had...they're almost unbelievably good.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 02:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

The most thorough examination of all the various different Tate sessions/ demos i've come across is here. I'm glad somebody went to the trouble of working all this out.

piscesx, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 04:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

This isn't being updated fast enough!

Can you keep up? (Cheetah), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 23:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

I agree. I thought the concern was with it being taken down quickly. Bizarre to post two in a row then nothing for going on 2 days.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 00:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

really enjoying the first two singles. finally had a chance to listen to them both in full. hope they end up releasing all of the Troy Tate sessions with this fantastic mastering. Sounds great.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 03:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

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