Tommy James and the Shondelles C or D

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Was he involved with the Mob?

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 13:10 (thirteen years ago) link

You'll have to read the book ;)

Bali Eiffel Tower Hai (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 13:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Let's put it this way: the very beginning of the book, the incident which prompts him to tell his story, is the death of Morris Levy. Do you know who that is?

Bali Eiffel Tower Hai (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah, I see. I forgot they were on Roulette!

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 13:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Morris Levy is such a colorful character, his cameo in Ahmet Ertegun's biography steals the show from the subject http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/bkrev/hitmen-nyt.php

Bali Eiffel Tower Hai (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link

"Meet the Comer" off of Christian of the World = vocal melody from Neil Young's "Helpless"

"bad vibrations everywhere..."

dell (del), Monday, 16 August 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Long CBC interview about the mob stuff:
http://www.cbc.ca/day6/blog/2011/02/11/tommy-james-the-mob-and-the-music/

brio, Sunday, 13 February 2011 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link

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One night when I was like 13, I was working on a poetry assignment for my Grade 8 english class, we had to assemble our own poetry anthology, meeting certain requirements, and only so many could be lyrics from songs, blah blah blah, this is not important, anyway, it was really late, like maybe 10 or something, or maybe later, because I was the only up in my house and I was working in the kitchen, but I called into the crappy radio station and requested "Crimson & Clover" and they played it, and maybe even put me on the air for like 5 seconds, I don't remember, but they definitely said my name. Which is an uncommon name. That's important to remember.
Two years later, I meet this girl at a party. We talk for a while and finally feel friendly enought to tell each other our names. She looks at me and says "You're XXXXX? Did you ever request 'Crimson & Clover' on such-and-such FM? You're soooooo rad!"
I got kissed with tongue for the first time that night.

― My Huckleberry Friend (Horace Mann), Friday, February 20, 2004 7:46 AM (6 years ago)

This is a fucking great story!

Peter Pepsi (Abbbottt), Sunday, 13 February 2011 04:00 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...
two years pass...

"ah dig snow and the rain and the bright sunshiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine"

who is gonna groove to Tommy with me today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv3WB2loIA4

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 17:38 (ten years ago) link

I'm sure I've mentioned it, but how wild that three people had three huge hits with three covers of his songs in the '80s?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 17:55 (ten years ago) link

miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link

huggin a tree when you get near it

andrew m., Tuesday, 14 January 2014 19:02 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax-guC_7XXs

andrew m., Tuesday, 14 January 2014 19:03 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgUmBBN6Kj4

andrew m., Tuesday, 14 January 2014 19:04 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unbR8vjy9cE

andrew m., Tuesday, 14 January 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link

Travelin' is a gold mine

andrew m., Tuesday, 14 January 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah6iAzTBl9c

andrew m., Tuesday, 14 January 2014 19:09 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

trust each other in love
and we can't stop believing for a single day

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 April 2016 17:53 (eight years ago) link

Fun fact: "Crimson and Clover" is a rough mix. Tommy played it off-air for WLS (Chicago AM radio powerhouse) during an interview/promo spot. Unbeknownst to him, WLS recorded it. When he left the station and got in his limo, he turned on the radio and heard, "World exclusive from Tommy James and the Shondells!" and the rough mix of "Crimson." Because the station played it every 20 minutes (and because it was hugely influential in making hits), Tommy had to release it like that.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 3 April 2016 19:38 (eight years ago) link

Had no intention of seeing this (barely knew of its existence, to be honest), but now I think I will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saHzng8fxLs

clemenza, Sunday, 17 April 2016 00:08 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

got a freebie best of Tommy James CD, was kinda excited to play it. fired it up: uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugggh it's a LIVE compilation from like, 2007. it says live on the spine but not on the cover, and only on the linernotes inside does it say in fine print

bleh

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 27 August 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link

ugh

When I Get To The Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 August 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link

his albums on roulette are some of the best-sounding vinyl I own - Travelin' is a fantastic album

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 28 August 2017 00:36 (six years ago) link

nine months pass...

Crimson and clover. Possibly the greatest song of all time

mind how you go (Ross), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

Yes.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link

It's so good.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link

yeeaahh

JoeStork, Friday, 22 June 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link

yep

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link

they have a couple of these! "I Think We're Alone Now" and "Mony Mony" are up there too

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 June 2018 19:48 (five years ago) link

I'd add Crystal Blue Persuasion to the list. One of the great singles bands of all time

J. Sam, Friday, 22 June 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link

totally. i like "Mirage" a lot too.

their evolution is incredible. they made "Hanky Panky" when they were still in high school in 1966. some DJs started playing bootlegged copies of it and it became a regional hit, tromping a record deal. in 1967 later they release "I Think We're Alone Now". in 1968 they release "Mony Mony". in 1969 they release "Crimson & Clover".

these are insane singles. like damn. fwiw the albums are not too shabby either.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 23 June 2018 01:32 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9S8liz2HSQ

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 23 June 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link

Otm, but Crimson and Clover is just unbelievable

albvivertine, Saturday, 23 June 2018 01:34 (five years ago) link

Was anybody who played on “Hanky Panky” besides Tommy on the later records?

Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 June 2018 02:05 (five years ago) link

he's still alive, right? who was in his band? did he really have a band? did he have a writing partner?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 June 2018 02:12 (five years ago) link

He eventually did have more or less a regular band and writing partner(s).

Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 June 2018 02:15 (five years ago) link

re: "Hanky Panky"

In February 1964 the band recorded the Jeff Barry–Ellie Greenwich song "Hanky Panky" (originally a B-side by the Raindrops[4]). Released by Snap Records, a local label, James's version sold respectably in Michigan, Indiana and Illinois, but Snap Records had no national distribution. The band toured the eastern Midwest, but no other market took to the song. The single failed to chart nationally, and the Shondells disbanded in 1965 after its members graduated from high school.

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in 1965, Pittsburgh dance promoter Bob Mack had unearthed the forgotten single "Hanky Panky", playing it at various dance parties, and radio stations there touted it as an "exclusive". Listener response encouraged regular play, and demand soared. Bootleggers responded by printing 80,000 black market copies of the recording, which were sold in Pennsylvania stores.

James first learned of all this activity in April 1966 after getting a telephone call from Pittsburgh disc jockey "Mad Mike" Metro to come and perform the song. James attempted to contact other members of the Shondells, but they had all moved away, joined the service or gotten married and left the music business altogether.

James later sells a tape master (taken from a copy of the original single, as the session tape had dissappeared) to Roulette, and the rereleased single goes to #1 in the summer of '66.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 23 June 2018 02:19 (five years ago) link

Their narrative is amazing, going from basically being the Kingsmen (who had a similar thing happen with "Louie Louie"), become early Bubblegum kingpins before reaching from (and attaining!) Psych cred with "Crimson and Clover", getting Hubert Humphrey to write liner notes and turning down Woodstock before burning out mightily in '70.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 23 June 2018 02:27 (five years ago) link

That Wikipedia article also says

In 2009 James and the surviving Shondells, Gray, Vale and Rosman, reunited to record music for a soundtrack of a proposed film based on James' autobiography, Me, the Mob, and the Music, released in February 2010. The group still gets together from time to time for special video/TV events and nostalgia shows.

That’d be Ron Rossman, Mike Vale and Eddie Gray, who I believe were Shondells for almost the whole time, Gray coming in a little after Rossman and Vale. Still highly recommend that memoir.

Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 June 2018 02:32 (five years ago) link

Aargh. Ron Rosman, one ‘s’

Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 June 2018 02:48 (five years ago) link

finally ordering that autobio

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 23 June 2018 15:00 (five years ago) link

You will not regret it

Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 June 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link

and turning down Woodstock before burning out mightily in '70.


To be fair, this is how Woodstock was presented to him:

We were in Hawaii, and my secretary called and said, ‘Yeah, listen, there’s this pig farmer in upstate New York that wants you to play in his field.’ That’ s how it was put to me. So we passed.”

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 23 June 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

Thread delivers

mind how you go (Ross), Sunday, 24 June 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link

i like this song too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lke1pCmYFCU

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 25 June 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link

"I like the way you hold my hand, it lets me know that you understand"

this line always sounded so Rolling Stones to me

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 25 June 2018 02:34 (five years ago) link

I's say classic. Also, anyone else find it weird that three '80s pop stars each had huge hits covering different Tommy James songs?
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, February 18, 2004 4:17 PM (fourteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 25 June 2018 02:35 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZvNJ1UnR0I

when Joan Jett and the Cramps cover your songs

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 25 June 2018 02:40 (five years ago) link


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