Um, I Think It's Time for a Thread on WikiLeaks

If I say* something

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/22/Anarchistcookbookdsfg.jpg/200px-Anarchistcookbookdsfg.jpg

see my copy was missing the appendix that had a list of all the people that had ever wronged me in secret

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3f/AnarchistCookMovie.jpg/200px-AnarchistCookMovie.jpg

LOL

like i am still on the side that is pro-WL here but the anarchist cookbook /= a list of informants, at least w/r/t "someone getting harmed from the release of information"

anyway thank god pennies dropped from buildings don't actually kill ppl and go a few feet into the cement because all of our older siblings would be in jail right now

^^^reads sorta like a perry bible fellowship cartoon now that i think about it

1) hey little brother, if you drop a penny off the top of that skyscraper, you get to make a wish!
2) ~POV of penny, directly towards the hat of a businessman in a fedora
3) little brother dragged away in cuffs, sheet over a bloodied corpse, older bro laffin and laffin

wouldn't it be more like "you drop the penny, I get a wish!", then panel 2 is little bro dropping the penny while older bro closes his eyes and makes the wish, then panel 3 older bro is all "it came true!" while little bro is dragged away

haha, better

i suppose it WAS your bible fellowship, makes sense you'd be better at this than me

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i forgot the sheet.

http://reason.com/archives/2010/08/06/julian-assange-wikijournalist

^ linked to from Sullivan, a case against calling Assange a journalist

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-08-10/a-western-crackdown-on-wikileaks/?update=1

huh

Turns out Wikileaks did, in fact, ask the DoD for help in redacting the leaked documents, and DoD refused. Greenwald is, of course, all over it.

Julian Assange wanted in Sweden for rape!?

http://translate.google.se/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.expressen.se%2FNyheter%2F1.2104976%2Fwikileaks-grundare-anhallen-for-valdtakt&sl=sv&tl=en

Wiki twitter: "it's just a tabloid + distraction" - http://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/21731365419

Nice bit of character assassination.

Spreading outside of Sweden by now - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11047025

Pentagon (by the way, there's a mosque in there, did you know?) looking into persecuting WikiLeaks

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704488404575441673460880204.html?mod=WSJEUROPE_hpp_MIDDLEThirdNews

Swedish rape warrant withdrawn http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11049316

Ridiculous. Way to martyr the guy.

http://www.internet-d.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Julian-assange-nyp.png

wow this whole thing is like

man

julian assange eats a cheeseburger - http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/cheeseburger1(1).jpg

no wait, julian assange finishes cheeseburger, throws it away - http://www.13dots.com/reddragon/trashcan/final.gif

Huh:

http://www.fox40.com/news/capitolpulse/ktxl-news-soldierwikileaks0823,0,2298783.story

But but... I've heard that Assange eats live puppies!

Countdown til "Assange is a Muslim".

that's awesome; no one will pay attention tho i bet

All they have to do is say he's an Australian, surely that'll do it right? :D

haha an article i read today called wikileaks "stockholm-based". maybe that's true, technically

The Pentagon said on Sunday it had a 120-member team prepared to review a massive leak of as many as 500,000 Iraq war documents, which are expected to be released by the WikiLeaks website sometime this month.

Pentagon spokesman Col. Dave Lapan told Reuters the timing of the leak remained unclear but the Defense Department was ready for a document dump as early as Monday or Tuesday, a possibility raised in previous WikiLeaks statements.

I suppose they will do their usual thing of throwing whistleblowers in jail and trying to shut down Wikileaks, rather than bothering to investigate any of the crimes the documents might expose.

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_0-KUaQl7k

^^^
I don't understand this either - the NYTimes had an article that was totally about Julian Assange's personal life, I mean the guy just revealed that the US documented 100,000 deaths from the Iraq War and then lied about the fact that they documented those deaths... I mean are the large news outlets trying to smear him?

sex sells, right?

also

1. it's a lot easier & more fun for lazy journalists to focus on a rape scandal than to sift through thousands of war documents
2. it makes them feel like they're actually doing a job -- "asking the tough questions" -- rather than having to defer to someone who is doing it for them

are the large news outlets trying to smear him?

of course.

it's not really the story, but he is an extremely strange guy. it's not like they are making this stuff up.

are the large news outlets trying to smear him?

of course.

― sleeve, Monday, October 25, 2010 9:50 AM

wikileaks makes the major news outlets look ineffectual. also what j0rdan said

Heh.

apparently what he does it very popular with veteran lefty journalists in the uk at least, who associate his politics with things they like, but the younger ones are a bit more creeped out because they have more direct experience of/dislike for libertarianism through the internet (which is still basically the only place you see it in the uk)

that interview is so very retarded. focusing on the eclipsing personality of assange and the rape rumours is obviously the perfect way for media to acknowledge the leaks as news without actually talking about them at all

an information dump of half a million documents which are about literally thousands of events is perhaps not the best way to get material covered (this is a point a lot of people who share wikileaks' presumed sympathies have made)

Yeah, it's always easier to criticize. What would have been a better way then? 5 x 100,000 documents? (the second release would make those same people go "boring!")

i haven't read the half million documents yet, so i don't know, but it seems like cooperating with journalists so that synthesised/digested stories are extracted and published in advance of the releases is a good idea PR-wise. if you don't do that then the release itself is the story. the newspapers wl cooperated with on the afghanistan release seem to either not have cooperated this time or not been given the opportunity and at the same time wl is being criticized by amnesty et al. they're not doing it right, and they're leaving gaps for stories about assange being a crank (which like i say, is not a lie).

this guy is not terribly effective at drawing attention to the issues at hand - he's unable to redirect the debate from being about HIM and his methods to the contents of the documents he releases

there's a suspicion among the people i know who've met him that he likes it that way (cyberpunk outfits, think he's morpheus, etc.). it's clear he's got a lot of the personality issues shared by libertarian hacker types (as alluded to in that nyt piece).

it's disingenuous of him to suggest the goal is just freeing information/generating debate. or if that's true, it's pretty unambitious/careless. it seems like he has real political preferences. and given that, it's not ad hominem to find faul with/write features about the figurehead when his M.O. works against generating supporting for those preferences.