MIA

also if you want me to feel bad about mocking your "ugh all paper planes is is a stolen hook a chant and a dance beat" plz don't tie my crime into some weird persecution complex about how people won't let you not care about MIA

i mean srsly did you come back to the thread to complain Jordan and I were "unreasonable" when we laughed about the irony in your "paper planes" dismisal a few months ago?

― da croupier, Wednesday, August 4, 2010 9:30 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah, bcuz its indicative of a larger thing ... i can talk about a rapper & get 'i dont get why this matters at all' from 90% of ilm but everyone has to have an opinion on MIA ... the same phenomenon that gets dudes like contenderizer writing essays about big boi records & no other rap music

are you 12 years old or what

wait people pay more attention to stuff that sells & is popular? fuck I think we have a scoop here guys

what is going on here

btw not to blow up your spot man but I read "I LOVE CRICKET: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX"

also if you want me to feel bad about mocking your "ugh all paper planes is is a stolen hook a chant and a dance beat" plz don't tie my crime into some weird persecution complex about how people won't let you not care about MIA

― da croupier, Wednesday, August 4, 2010 9:32 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

im talking about critics in general. why does every critic have to have an opinion about it, to take her shit seriously? I mean, i venture to have an opinion that is "pretty worthless, next" & im craaazy, dont u know she has pop hits??? but most of ilx is perfectly happy having zero opinion about plenty of the artists that i think are significant & matter.

& no this isnt about me & i dont actually want contenderizer writing essays about husalah, im trying to point out a lack of critical perspective

uh huh

wait people pay more attention to stuff that sells & is popular? fuck I think we have a scoop here guys

― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, August 4, 2010 9:33 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wait .... youre giving the populist defense of ... MIA??

i don't know why people think this "Arcade Fire" band that is playing Madison Square Garden tonight "matters" and won't engage with me about this Clyde Carson MP3

but most of ilx is perfectly happy having zero opinion about plenty of the artists that i think are significant & matter.

this reminds me I posted about cattle decapitation last year & you didn't even say whether you thought they ruled or sucked

still pissed tbh

deej needs an anarchy button with husalah's face super imposed under the A

uh huh

― da croupier, Wednesday, August 4, 2010 9:35 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

***meditates on teh serious art of MIA***

i think this ties in w/ the debate on tumblr (im sure u read) when tom ewing warned teenpop bros to avoid reading the best coast review ... hes kinda ... right?? that its weird how the same qualities in an artist willing to smoke weed w/ freddie gibbs are unacceptable coming from ... i dunno, whatever shit those teenpop bros listen to

deej needs an anarchy button with husalah's face super imposed under the A

― righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, August 4, 2010 9:37 PM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

glad the zings have finally caught up to what i currently listen to

are you actually making these arguments

deej, you need to stop feeling sorry for yourself

guys

deej does not actually give a shit about this argument

this thread has turned into a revision of austin powers where he gets unfrozen from the cryogenic chamber, takes a 3 minute piss, then comes to ilx to post about how about how people pay too much attention to popular artists

I wish all this had taken place on the Arcade Fire thread -- woulda shaken it awake.

this thread has turned into a revision of austin powers where he gets unfrozen from the cryogenic chamber, takes a 3 minute piss, then comes to ilx to post about how about how people pay too much attention to popular artists

― righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, August 4, 2010 9:40 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark

wait ... mia is popular? how popular are we talking here. sean kingston popular?

deej is turning into the rap equivalent of those high school juniors who are convinced there's no music more "smart and valid" than Frank Zappa

"turning into"?

this thread has turned into a revision of austin powers where he gets unfrozen from the cryogenic chamber, takes a 3 minute piss, then comes to ilx to post about how about how people pay too much attention to popular artists

but they're only popular because the critics make them popular which is the hidden hair metal connection! if you guys only spent more time on the yahoo Winger group you'd know that Pearl Jam & Nirvana drove real music off the charts & this was totally because critics were only writing about what they cared about and trying to make it popular! but now real music is coming back, etc

damn critics manipulating the stock market of popular taste...one day your reign of terror will end, corpus criticalis

honestly, deej, if you think this isn't some weird persecution complex and actually a big realization about the false assumptions and the hollow towers critics erect from them, you need to workshop that shit out because its coming off like some self-pitying "I've been thinking about what you guys said two months ago and you know what that's BULLSHIT" meltdown.

"that's right, I said MIA SUCKS! Who wants a piece of me?"

deej is turning into the rap equivalent of those high school juniors who are convinced there's no music more "smart and valid" than Frank Zappa

― torch song trill o.g. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, August 4, 2010 9:42 PM (42 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

thats exactly the opposite of what im doing

guys, you all need to stop this crazy beef with deej

fwiw I haven't listened to this album yet because the singles i've heard blow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fm8A4gphmQ&feature=related

honestly, deej, if you think this isn't some weird persecution complex and actually a big realization about the false assumptions and the hollow towers critics erect from them, you need to workshop that shit out because its coming off like some self-pitying "I've been thinking about what you guys said two months ago and you know what that's BULLSHIT" meltdown.

― da croupier, Wednesday, August 4, 2010 9:45 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i said this isnt about me?? i drew the teenpop comparison to make it clear its about a larger point? i mentioned i dont actually want contenderizer writing abt my fav artists? im not saying whatever rapper should be at the center, just that i think its weird how everyone rallies around artists 'worthy' of appreciation like this when imo its kind of an emperor's clothes situation.

u can read any tone u want into this miccio, so long as it helps your argument seem stronger than it is

remind me what my "argument" was again

my point in bringing it up here was that heres a perfect example of maintaining the status quo by getting all bullying whenever someone dares to suggest that maybe this artist is getting a bit overanalyzed itt.

http://www.twocanoespress.com/images/Unraveling%20Thread%20Jacket%20Front.jpg

remind me what my "argument" was again

― da croupier, Wednesday, August 4, 2010 9:48 PM (16 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

iirc that 'deej is a hypocrit for saying this stuff sucks for lazy one track jacks but liking a genre like hip hop!!'

ok this isn't about you feeling persecuted it's about how us bullying you is a perfect example of maintaining the status quo gotcha

um deej, take it from someone who keeps trying to reclaim it despite knowing better: the "emperor is naked" argument has the largest inverse relationship of "useful" to "annoying" of practically any other strategy you could take

um deej, take it from someone who keeps trying to reclaim it despite knowing better: the "emperor is naked" argument has the largest inverse relationship of "useful" to "annoying" of practically any other strategy you could take

― Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Wednesday, August 4, 2010 9:50 PM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark

shouldnt u be posting my argument in a ma$e thread or something

also, telling people that someone they find interesting isn't really that interesting and they would only realize this if you patronizingly tell them over and over and over again doesn't work either (tried that one, too)

how come when the emperor is naked nobody ever comments on the size of his package

Hmm. When I see another Lady Gaga cover story or a column about the depth of Inception, I just close the computer or keep walking into the convenience store to buy the pack of almonds I came for.

how come when the emperor is naked nobody ever comments on the size of his package

you don't visit the gay thread enuff

I lol'd

see its funny, i thought i presented some fairly well-argued criticisms of her music & wasnt all about HEY SHEEPLE THE MIA WEARS NO CLOTHES (tbh that would probably get a lot more attention) until we ended up in a rabbit hole w/ lazy sniping from miccio & standard ilx bullying tactics that trolled instead of engaging w/ the actual arguments i made

speaking of standard ilx bullying tactics somebody better call the wahhhmbulance

deej also a terrible conspiracy you might want to know about is that liberal hollywood has conspired to make people think they enjoy movies with sex and violence, just by always giving lots of coverage to such filth - I am calling them out on this though, soon everyone will be back to wholesome comedies like won ton ton, the dog who saved hollywood

wait wait wait -- j0hn is lecturing me on conspiracies??

we should go back to overanalyzing awesome music like Drake

deej i guess i feel you in one sense--i do find myself obligated to have an opinion about mia because other ppl do even tho i don't like her--kind of a circular thing ::shrug::

lol what conspiracies do I believe in mr off-the-rails? none afaik except for this critics-conspire-to-big-up-MIA-to-drive-the-real-music-off-the-radar one, that one seems just obvious