worst rap song to top the Billboard Hot 100 in the '90s

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As a whole this is way better than the 00s list

markers welby, S.B. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

do the 00s list

righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Oh yeah, basically meh on the two Puff Daddys, too, but (like Lauryn I guess) I understand why people might love them.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

ranked (Guess where I stop liking songs? lol)

Sir Mix-A-Lot - "Baby Got Back"
Lauryn Hill - "Doo Wop (That Thing)"
Notorious BIG - "Hypnotize"
Kris Kross - "Jump"
PM Dawn - "Set Adrift On Memory Bliss"
2Pac - "How Do U Want It" / "California Love"
Coolio - Gangsta's Paradise"
Will Smith - "Getting Jiggy With It"
Will Smith ft. Dru Hill and Kool Moe Dee - "Wild Wild West"Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - "Tha Crossroads"
Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch - "Good Vibrations"
Snow - "Informer"
Vanilla Ice - "Ice, Ice Baby"
Notorious BIG ft Puff Daddy and Mase - "Mo Money Mo Problems"
Puff Daddy and Mase - "Can't Nobody Hold Me Down"
Puff Daddy ft 112 and Faith Evans - "I'll Be Missing You"

Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

do the 00s list

― righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 4:12 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you do it, i wasted enough time today

markers welby, S.B. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Love Kool Moe Dee's original "Wild Wild West," and figure Will Smith covering it with Moe Dee's help can't be too bad, though I'm not sure when I've actually listened to it.

omg

Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

That 2000 list is a root canal.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i basically like every one of these songs!

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

what caused that late 90s paradigm shift when all of a sudden legitimate non-white, non-novelty rap songs could top Billboard all of a sudden?

markers welby, S.B. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

'wild wild west' and it's not even close.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i think a better poll would be "best r&b song to top the billboard hot 100 in the 00s"

righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

what caused that late 90s paradigm shift when all of a sudden legitimate non-white, non-novelty rap songs could top Billboard all of a sudden?

The anticipation of the election of a black president in 2008.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Yeah, duh, the Will Smith isn't technically a "cover," right? Just an interpolation, or update, or whatever. I knew that, fwiw. (Not sure what it is supposed to be. Just didn't leave as negative an impression as Marky Mark, because it never left an impression at all. Surprised it was a #1, tbh.)

Now wondering if maybe should have voted for "Tha Crossroads," which I appreciate in theory but was always tedious to get through when it was actually on.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

get out of here

righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i think "wild wild west" went #1 half because will smith is will smith and half because of the movie tie in

righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

o_O at The Crossroads being suggested

San Te, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Puff Daddy ft 112 and Faith Evans - "I'll Be Missing You" (would rather imbibe the contents of a county fair portapotty in 120F heat via a funnel than listen to this)

Shasta bringin it for real

better check that sausage before you put it in the waffle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

would totally travel back in time to murder Puffy right after Craig Mack's "Flavor in ya Ear" came out, thereby sparing the world his many abominations

better check that sausage before you put it in the waffle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

it really is disgusting and stomach turning how in the late-90s/early-00s we had all these "going straight to THE WILD WILD WEST" or "Here come the MEN IN BLACK" or poor Destiny Child "CHARLIE how your ANGELS get down like that?" hit singles that are basically ads that hold up like shit two years later.

it's like if Survivor was all "ROCKY! ROCK ROCK ROCK! ROCK ROCK ROCKYYYYYYY!" or "Theme From A Summer Place" was like how Jasper sang it on the Simpsons

markers welby, S.B. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

2Pac - How Do You Want It
Notorious BIG - Hypnotize
Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - Tha Crossroads
Notorious BIG ft Puff Daddy and Mase - Mo Money Mo Problems
2Pac - California Love
Sir Mix-A-Lot - Baby Got Back
Coolio - Gangsta's Paradise
Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch - Good Vibrations
Will Smith - Getting Jiggy With It
Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby
Kris Kross - Jump
Will Smith ft. Dru Hill and Kool Moe Dee - Wild Wild West
Lauryn Hill - Doo Wop (That Thing)
PM Dawn - Set Adrift on Memory Bliss
Snow - Informer
Puff Daddy and Mase - Can't Nobody Hold Me Down

I stop liking songs here:
Puff Daddy ft. 112 and Faith Evans - "I'll Be Missing You"

btw in case you forgot to suggest ban me, I placed "ice ice baby" over lauryn hill and pm dawn

j0rdan sgt's tartan shorts club ban (crüt), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ Whiney

better check that sausage before you put it in the waffle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

What's the difference between an evanescent movie tie-in and a white Canadian shouting INFORMER AOSFJAS;FH;ASFROWEURSWHJ;AWFA; BOOM BOOM YEAH and Marky Mark wanting to see sweat comin' out yo poahs?

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I think we can all agree the decade bookends mostly suck.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

what caused that late 90s paradigm shift when all of a sudden legitimate non-white, non-novelty rap songs could top Billboard all of a sudden?

All players rise with the Bizkit tide.

gato busca pleitos (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

also yeah, "i'll Be Missing You" was dogshit but fronting on Mase and Puff is embarrassing if you're not like a junior in high school

markers welby, S.B. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

TS: Wild Wild West vs. Addams Groove vs. Do the Bartman vs. Nightmare on My Street

San Te, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Winner: Batdance

no gut busting joke can change history (polyphonic), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Heard this "Informer"-jacking Bollywood hit in a store the other day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR46C0XoQm4

jaymc, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

it really is disgusting and stomach turning how in the late-90s/early-00s we had all these "going straight to THE WILD WILD WEST" or "Here come the MEN IN BLACK" or poor Destiny Child "CHARLIE how your ANGELS get down like that?" hit singles that are basically ads that hold up like shit two years later.

um people had been doing this for decades before those songs came out; see for example the extended career of Kenny Loggins, or "St Elmo's Fire" or "Back in Time" from "Back To The Future" or etc etc etc

Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

xxpost Vicki Vale...Vick-Vicki Vale

San Te, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

i came here to say that anybody who votes "tha crossroads" can line up for a throat punch but i didnt think it was an actual possibility so now shit got real o_O

CHEESECAKE VOTING FRUIT HATING SCUM (jjjusten), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

and going to bat for Ma$e is incredibly embarrassing if you are 30+ because you're old enough to have heard someone who didn't sound like a retarded fart

Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think "Back In Time" is all like "We're gonna go BACK IN TIME with MARTY MCFLY and my man DOC BROWN, I'm Huey Lewis and I drive a DELOREAN beep beep zoom zoom."

markers welby, S.B. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

What a way to make a living.

jaymc, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

ha, that's another good one

Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

"I'm allllright... I'm playing GOLF with CHEVY CHASE and someone dookied in the pool Kenny Loggins"

markers welby, S.B. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I think you guys are missing the point that phrases like "working 9 to 5" and "Everybody get footloose" actually work on their own without the context of a movie

markers welby, S.B. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

also yeah, "i'll Be Missing You" was dogshit but fronting on Mase and Puff is embarrassing if you're not like a junior in high school

obv otm -- puffy has been dope thru the years, tho obv he has his slip ups, as does anyone who's been in the game as long

righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

whiney what the fuck are you going on about

righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

who cares about that shit

righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Christ, calm down about "Crossroads," I said I didn't actually vote for it. (Did always like "1st Of Da Month" more, though. And Crucial Conflict's "Hay," if that counts.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I think you guys are missing the point that phrases like "working 9 to 5" and "Everybody get footloose" actually work on their own without the context of a movie

― markers welby, S.B. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 8:37 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark


unlike, say... "Wild Wild West"

stuff that's what it is (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

i have a bigger problem with rap videos from the video area fucking shit up by splicing in trailer scenes from whatever movie the song was on the soundtrack of

righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

unlike, say... "Wild Wild West"

hahaha I was going to go there but J0rdan helped me see that this is basically crazy arguing with crazy

Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Whiney on some serious ahistorical revisionism silliness

will hate on Puffy and Mase forever, no fronting involved. worst shit ever, and a totally pernicious influence on hip hop in general

better check that sausage before you put it in the waffle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

also: I heard "Informer" for the first time like, three todays ago (had obviously heard it before then but didn't know the name or artist, or the canadian provenance), and I really have no problem with it.

stuff that's what it is (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

"three todays ago" v_v

stuff that's what it is (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Informer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ice Ice Baby

better check that sausage before you put it in the waffle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

it ain't my fault

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 23 December 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link

I sort of half heartedly defended “I’ll be missing you” upthread, and I would like to retract that. I actually just love that song

k3vin k., Monday, 23 December 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link

thread revived. oh how it was revived.

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 December 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link

"i'll be missing you" isn't that bad at all idk why ppl act like it's one of the most abhorrent creations in all of history

dyl, Monday, 23 December 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link

death trax don't usually bring the lols but

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 December 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link

confession: i knew "i'll be missing you" before i knew "every breath you take"

dyl, Monday, 23 December 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link

(whether it's an accurate take or not) it seemed extremely gauche for the guy who inserted himself into Biggie songs to then monetize Biggie's death. and then to do that while ripping off (there's sampling, and then there's ripping off) a very well-known hit, his seemingly only contribution being his limp, emotionless vocals...was a bridge to far for most.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 23 December 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link

It’s kind of sad with you around

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 23 December 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link

it was a charity single whose substantial revenues (it was turning a profit after about 500k sold, and it went on to do >3 million) were funneled into a trust fund for biggie's children... and literally the majority of sean combs's hits during that era sampled-and/or-ripped-off other songs that had already been well known hits in their own right. i guess including the song on his own album was questionable

dyl, Monday, 23 December 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link

"all his other hit songs were shameless ripoffs too" doesn't help him here lol

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 23 December 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link

Maybe instead he coulda sampled Player and done "BIGGIE COME BACK"

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 December 2019 22:48 (four years ago) link

Puffy is the worst thing that ever happened to hip hop

Οὖτις, Monday, 23 December 2019 22:49 (four years ago) link

Puffy is the worst thing that ever happened to hip hop

― Οὖτις, Monday, December 23, 2019 5:49 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he made last train to paris...

k3vin k., Monday, 23 December 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link

Yea that shit was dope

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 December 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link

Also Press Play was cool

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 December 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link

Any voter not selecting "Informer" is just kidding themselves.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link


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