worst rap song to top the Billboard Hot 100 in the '90s

ranked

1 tha crossroads
2 how do u want it/california love
3 hypnotize
4 doo wop (that thing)
5 gettin jiggy with it
6 mo money mo problems
7 gangsta's paradise
8 can't nobody hold me down
9 jump
10 baby got back
11 ice ice baby
12 good vibrations

i stop liking songs here

13 i'll be missing you
14 wild wild west
15 informer

the answer is pretty clearly Puff Daddy ft 112 and Faith Evans - "I'll Be Missing You"

Vanilla Ice - "Ice, Ice Baby" (brings the lolz)
Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch - "Good Vibrations" (horrible hip house)
PM Dawn - "Set Adrift On Memory Bliss" (meh)
Kris Kross - "Jump" (classic)
Sir Mix-A-Lot - "Baby Got Back" (totally overplayed but classic space invaders chromatic bassline)
Snow - "Informer" (see V-Ice)
Coolio - Gangsta's Paradise" (awful)
Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - "Tha Crossroads" (classic)
2Pac - "How Do U Want It" / "California Love" (meh)
Puff Daddy and Mase - "Can't Nobody Hold Me Down" (awful)
Notorious BIG - "Hypnotize" (overrated)
Puff Daddy ft 112 and Faith Evans - "I'll Be Missing You" (would rather imbibe the contents of a county fair portapotty in 120F heat via a funnel than listen to this)
Notorious BIG ft Puff Daddy and Mase - "Mo Money Mo Problems" (diana ross can't redeem this)
Will Smith - "Getting Jiggy With It" (about as notable as his acting)
Lauryn Hill - "Doo Wop (That Thing)" (insanely classic)
Will Smith ft. Dru Hill and Kool Moe Dee - "Wild Wild West" (i thought the original was awful until i heard this)

all other songs on this list have at least one redeemable quality about them xpost

necrophilia and coprophagia all in one thread!

I voted for "Can't Nobody Hold Me Down," which no amount of revisionism on my part can redeem. "I'll Be Missing You" is a close second.

I remember thinking Puffy was mentally handicapped because of "Can't Nobody Hold Me Down"

he's not? to think I've been grading him on a curve all these years...

although the answer is still "I'll Be Missing You" because for real fuck them forever for recording that

lol I'd forgotten about Ma$e's vacantly confused serial killer stare

I like Faith Hill fine but I burst out laughing when I heard what Puff did to her on that chorus.

Ma$e is much better than at least three artists on this list.

sampling the message and adding nothing to it >>>>>>>>>>> sampling one of the police's most boring songs and turning it into a 5-minute facepalm

Oh if we're ranking...

Notorious BIG - "Hypnotize"
2Pac - "California Love"
Sir Mix-A-Lot - "Baby Got Back"
Lauryn Hill - "Doo Wop (That Thing)"
Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - "Tha Crossroads"
Kris Kross - "Jump"
PM Dawn - "Set Adrift On Memory Bliss"
Coolio - Gangsta's Paradise"
Notorious BIG ft Puff Daddy and Mase - "Mo Money Mo Problems"
Will Smith - "Getting Jiggy With It"
Vanilla Ice - "Ice, Ice Baby"

I stop liking songs here

Puff Daddy and Mase - "Can't Nobody Hold Me Down"
Snow - "Informer"
Puff Daddy ft 112 and Faith Evans - "I'll Be Missing You"
Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch - "Good Vibrations"
Will Smith ft. Dru Hill and Kool Moe Dee - "Wild Wild West"

Great list. I like "Informer" a lot (unironically), always have. Like Tu-Pac's B-side; have no doubt heard the A-side sometimes but I'll be damned if I know how it goes. Have never cared about the Lauryn Hill, but I suppose it's good anyway. Love Kool Moe Dee's original "Wild Wild West," and figure Will Smith covering it with Moe Dee's help can't be too bad, though I'm not sure when I've actually listened to it. Voting Marky Mark, though I doubt I'd hate it as much now as I did when it was new.

As a whole this is way better than the 00s list

do the 00s list

xp Oh yeah, basically meh on the two Puff Daddys, too, but (like Lauryn I guess) I understand why people might love them.

ranked (Guess where I stop liking songs? lol)

Sir Mix-A-Lot - "Baby Got Back"
Lauryn Hill - "Doo Wop (That Thing)"
Notorious BIG - "Hypnotize"
Kris Kross - "Jump"
PM Dawn - "Set Adrift On Memory Bliss"
2Pac - "How Do U Want It" / "California Love"
Coolio - Gangsta's Paradise"
Will Smith - "Getting Jiggy With It"
Will Smith ft. Dru Hill and Kool Moe Dee - "Wild Wild West"Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - "Tha Crossroads"
Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch - "Good Vibrations"
Snow - "Informer"
Vanilla Ice - "Ice, Ice Baby"
Notorious BIG ft Puff Daddy and Mase - "Mo Money Mo Problems"
Puff Daddy and Mase - "Can't Nobody Hold Me Down"
Puff Daddy ft 112 and Faith Evans - "I'll Be Missing You"

do the 00s list

― righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 4:12 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you do it, i wasted enough time today

Love Kool Moe Dee's original "Wild Wild West," and figure Will Smith covering it with Moe Dee's help can't be too bad, though I'm not sure when I've actually listened to it.

omg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hot_100_number-one_singles_of_2000_%28U.S.%29

start here, jord

That 2000 list is a root canal.

i basically like every one of these songs!

what caused that late 90s paradigm shift when all of a sudden legitimate non-white, non-novelty rap songs could top Billboard all of a sudden?

'wild wild west' and it's not even close.

i think a better poll would be "best r&b song to top the billboard hot 100 in the 00s"

what caused that late 90s paradigm shift when all of a sudden legitimate non-white, non-novelty rap songs could top Billboard all of a sudden?

The anticipation of the election of a black president in 2008.

xp Yeah, duh, the Will Smith isn't technically a "cover," right? Just an interpolation, or update, or whatever. I knew that, fwiw. (Not sure what it is supposed to be. Just didn't leave as negative an impression as Marky Mark, because it never left an impression at all. Surprised it was a #1, tbh.)

Now wondering if maybe should have voted for "Tha Crossroads," which I appreciate in theory but was always tedious to get through when it was actually on.

get out of here

i think "wild wild west" went #1 half because will smith is will smith and half because of the movie tie in

o_O at The Crossroads being suggested

Puff Daddy ft 112 and Faith Evans - "I'll Be Missing You" (would rather imbibe the contents of a county fair portapotty in 120F heat via a funnel than listen to this)

Shasta bringin it for real

would totally travel back in time to murder Puffy right after Craig Mack's "Flavor in ya Ear" came out, thereby sparing the world his many abominations

it really is disgusting and stomach turning how in the late-90s/early-00s we had all these "going straight to THE WILD WILD WEST" or "Here come the MEN IN BLACK" or poor Destiny Child "CHARLIE how your ANGELS get down like that?" hit singles that are basically ads that hold up like shit two years later.

it's like if Survivor was all "ROCKY! ROCK ROCK ROCK! ROCK ROCK ROCKYYYYYYY!" or "Theme From A Summer Place" was like how Jasper sang it on the Simpsons

2Pac - How Do You Want It
Notorious BIG - Hypnotize
Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - Tha Crossroads
Notorious BIG ft Puff Daddy and Mase - Mo Money Mo Problems
2Pac - California Love
Sir Mix-A-Lot - Baby Got Back
Coolio - Gangsta's Paradise
Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch - Good Vibrations
Will Smith - Getting Jiggy With It
Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby
Kris Kross - Jump
Will Smith ft. Dru Hill and Kool Moe Dee - Wild Wild West
Lauryn Hill - Doo Wop (That Thing)
PM Dawn - Set Adrift on Memory Bliss
Snow - Informer
Puff Daddy and Mase - Can't Nobody Hold Me Down

I stop liking songs here:
Puff Daddy ft. 112 and Faith Evans - "I'll Be Missing You"

btw in case you forgot to suggest ban me, I placed "ice ice baby" over lauryn hill and pm dawn

lol @ Whiney

What's the difference between an evanescent movie tie-in and a white Canadian shouting INFORMER AOSFJAS;FH;ASFROWEURSWHJ;AWFA; BOOM BOOM YEAH and Marky Mark wanting to see sweat comin' out yo poahs?

I think we can all agree the decade bookends mostly suck.

what caused that late 90s paradigm shift when all of a sudden legitimate non-white, non-novelty rap songs could top Billboard all of a sudden?

All players rise with the Bizkit tide.

also yeah, "i'll Be Missing You" was dogshit but fronting on Mase and Puff is embarrassing if you're not like a junior in high school

TS: Wild Wild West vs. Addams Groove vs. Do the Bartman vs. Nightmare on My Street

Winner: Batdance

Heard this "Informer"-jacking Bollywood hit in a store the other day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR46C0XoQm4

it really is disgusting and stomach turning how in the late-90s/early-00s we had all these "going straight to THE WILD WILD WEST" or "Here come the MEN IN BLACK" or poor Destiny Child "CHARLIE how your ANGELS get down like that?" hit singles that are basically ads that hold up like shit two years later.

um people had been doing this for decades before those songs came out; see for example the extended career of Kenny Loggins, or "St Elmo's Fire" or "Back in Time" from "Back To The Future" or etc etc etc

xxpost Vicki Vale...Vick-Vicki Vale

i came here to say that anybody who votes "tha crossroads" can line up for a throat punch but i didnt think it was an actual possibility so now shit got real o_O

and going to bat for Ma$e is incredibly embarrassing if you are 30+ because you're old enough to have heard someone who didn't sound like a retarded fart

I don't think "Back In Time" is all like "We're gonna go BACK IN TIME with MARTY MCFLY and my man DOC BROWN, I'm Huey Lewis and I drive a DELOREAN beep beep zoom zoom."

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ce/9to5OddJobs.jpg

lol otm

"Baby Got Back" wouldn't be a consideration for me if voting in the 90s, but lord, in 2019, this song grates like a motherfucker.

Some of it is what "wite people at karaoke night" did to it, which is obv unfair, but it doesn't feel like a song that was meant to be banged (bung?) forever, whereas most of my favs on this list still sound good to me

the lack of master p / no limit options here is appalling.

did they have a lot of Hot 100 #1s?

No Arrested Development, no "Pray"...

votes for Bone thugs, lauryn, pm dawn, & mo money mo problems is just insane

Seriously. Crossroads is one of those rare hip hop songs that everyone i know likes.

I blasted it in a hotel room during a party and my friends and i sang it so loud that a bachelorette party called the Front Desk on us three times

No one ever believes me when I say this but when Snow's pre-"Informer" single "Lonely Monday Morning" premiered on hip-hop radio (before anyone knew what he looked like) every hip hop head I knew who heard it (OK, four people) agreed it was an instant classic

young and innocent days

informer was popular in jamaica and an all-star remix of a single from his second album was the best selling song in jamaica in 1995

gotta say it will be difficult for me to vote for anything other than "Crank Dat (Soulja Boy)"

― Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:29 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

I mean, I don't like 50 that much either but dude never actively ruined children

― Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:29 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

If you are not the board's resident Bill Cosby sympathizer and you haven't been at largely black events where a DJ will put this on and all of the kids 10 and under get up and do the dance to the song, combined with dude doing shit like "Throw Some D's On It" and (the admittedly funny and only song of his I can stand) "Yah Trick Yah", you will probably not get the level of fundamental antipathy I have for pretty much everything Soulja Boy represents or how that's been embraced as something awesome and fun by black America.

― Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:36 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

like, there are people who say stupid shit who are obviously making entertainment for adults/young adults who have developed some level of critical thinking combined with life experience, whereas Soulja Boy is just flat-out telling little kids to be annoying ignorant little shits

― Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:37 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

fuck that, fuck him, hope he dies

― Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:38 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

messily

― Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:45 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Obv things were different 9 years ago

No Arrested Development
― ... (Eazy), Friday, December 20, 2019 10:35 AM (three days ago

AS IT SHOULD BE WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU

Take him to another thread

it really is disgusting and stomach turning how in the late-90s/early-00s we had all these "going straight to THE WILD WILD WEST" or "Here come the MEN IN BLACK" or poor Destiny Child "CHARLIE how your ANGELS get down like that?" hit singles that are basically ads that hold up like shit two years later.

it's like if Survivor was all "ROCKY! ROCK ROCK ROCK! ROCK ROCK ROCKYYYYYYY!" or "Theme From A Summer Place" was like how Jasper sang it on the Simpsons

― markers welby, S.B. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 8:28 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

whiney gets so much shit for this post later on in this thread, but I think he’s right! that goddamn “CHARLIE how your ANGELS get down like that” line is so gratuitous that it totally ruins the song for me.

master p/no limit's strength was always on the album charts! tho some singles sold really well they usually didn't have enough radio play to reach the top 10 even

it ain't my fault

I sort of half heartedly defended “I’ll be missing you” upthread, and I would like to retract that. I actually just love that song

thread revived. oh how it was revived.

"i'll be missing you" isn't that bad at all idk why ppl act like it's one of the most abhorrent creations in all of history

death trax don't usually bring the lols but

confession: i knew "i'll be missing you" before i knew "every breath you take"

(whether it's an accurate take or not) it seemed extremely gauche for the guy who inserted himself into Biggie songs to then monetize Biggie's death. and then to do that while ripping off (there's sampling, and then there's ripping off) a very well-known hit, his seemingly only contribution being his limp, emotionless vocals...was a bridge to far for most.

It’s kind of sad with you around

it was a charity single whose substantial revenues (it was turning a profit after about 500k sold, and it went on to do >3 million) were funneled into a trust fund for biggie's children... and literally the majority of sean combs's hits during that era sampled-and/or-ripped-off other songs that had already been well known hits in their own right. i guess including the song on his own album was questionable

"all his other hit songs were shameless ripoffs too" doesn't help him here lol

Maybe instead he coulda sampled Player and done "BIGGIE COME BACK"

Puffy is the worst thing that ever happened to hip hop

http://www.youngmoneyhq.com/images/gudda-gudda-teases-new-song-off-guddaville-4-mixtape.jpg

Puffy is the worst thing that ever happened to hip hop

― Οὖτις, Monday, December 23, 2019 5:49 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he made last train to paris...

https://perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Dave-Chappelle-Michael-Jackson-2.gif

Yea that shit was dope

Also Press Play was cool

Any voter not selecting "Informer" is just kidding themselves.