"She's an indoor kitty..."

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They are domesticated animals.
-- Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (emilysu...), October 4th, 2005.

much like... humans.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

indeed! i have no need for tree climbing innit

Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link

If I don't go outside I become lethargic and spend all day yowling at my wife.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I almost posted the same thing, N_RQ, but I'm not feeling that sanguine about Homo Sapiens today.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:45 (eighteen years ago) link

My kitten thinks it's a dog (he plays fetch, will pick up a ball and drop it at your feet if he's bored) - should I take him for walks?

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:45 (eighteen years ago) link

My indoor cats are so lame I have to go out and kill rodents myself. At least I know how to use floss.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:45 (eighteen years ago) link

If I don't go outside I become lethargic and spend all day yowling at my wife.

When I'm really angry, I pee in the laundry basket.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:46 (eighteen years ago) link

when we moved house it was a good nine months before the cat figured out where the front door even was, frankly.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I still stand by my thoughts on outdoor catness, but....I have been an arse here.

I would like to apologize to Ally and M.White for losing it, being rude and sarcastic and, as I say, generally being an arse. I'm sorry!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/33/49368159_83f9fa31e7.jpg?v=0

"i am not scared of bugs or foxes or vets with clippers"

foxy boxer (stevie), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Apology accepted Dr. C. Sorry to have used extreme language myself. I sympathise generally with the idea that cats should have some place outside to go to, it's just that I don't have any safe place for mine to go and I still think they're better off at my house than they were at the pound.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link

You're right. Stevie - your cat is indeed the king of mogs.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Personally, Dr C, I thought your thoughts on cats have been OTM throughout.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

so is there a UK/USA divide re: what cats are all about, maybe?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Possibly. Also city v not-city.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

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There are plenty of indoor kitty's in the uk, my friends had one when they lived in the stockbridge area of Edinburgh, now though they're living in the middle of the countryside and he's turned into a right little mouser, much to their annoyance. There certainly isn't much declawing in the UK, so I think Dr C is on the mark - indoor cats in built up areas only.

I'd like a cat, but we live in a first floor flat, and letting them in and out would be a pain in the butt. Plus my mum would never forgive me as she's got really bad asthma.

Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link

We've always let our cats out, and I stress "let", we've got a little tray just in case they don't feel up to it, which hasn't been used in a very long time. Our cats will make a lot of noise and paw at the door if they want to go out, as we don't have a cat flap.

We live in a main road, which has never been a problem, but a few years ago one of our cats was run over (though the driver was actually nice enough to stop and give us a ride down to the vet). After this, we made sure only to let the cats out the back door, even if they were pawing at the front door, and it's not happened again (thank god). Of course he finds his way out the front pretty quickly, but I think it's made the whole area in front of the house seem a little more alien and unwelcoming so he'll be cautious when he gets out there. I've often seen him out and about when I've been over the park or walking down to town and he's the same old cat, he'll still recognize his owner and come up to me for a fuss.

He's pretty tough too - a couple of months ago I heard a racket out the back and saw him pwning a fox! He was batting it in the face with his claws and making the most godawful shrieking noise. Eventually the fox limped off silently, so Dr. C OTM re: foxes (and re: a lot of things).

melton mowbray (adr), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

we've only ever owned wilder cats that really wanted to be outside. if they were declawed, i can see the wisdom in keeping them in, but otherwise, i prefer to let it be the cat's choice.

with our cats it just seemed unnatural to keep them in. if they die or whatever, oh well! i mean, i care, but having a lethargic, overweight depressed cat vs. a happy, rascal cat is worth the risks.

if the cat's not into tho, that's cool.

now spaying and neutering.... that's a different deal and i probably sound hypocritical, but uh unless you live on a farm or want to deal with giving your kittens away, it just seems unwise. being a cat lady/dude is the fast track to health code violations and getting on the news for being a FREAK!
m.

msp (mspa), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, what a contentious thread I began...

andy --, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link

it's just us shouting you down dood, don't sweat it.

Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link

For those of you with outdoor cats, do you use Advantage (flea stuff) on them? Wondering if it really works. Also, do you have them microchipped? I am thinking about getting my cat 'chipped in case there is some big earthquake or other equally horrifying event and she gets stuck outside, freaks and runs off.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I put some anti-flea stuff (just smelly, not insecticide) on my cat every month, and it seems to keep them off pretty well.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I think microchipping is valid for indoor cats as well as outdoor. Ours are both chipped. If they get out, get lost, and are picked up by animal control, I want them to have every chance of not being destroyed.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Forest, where are you in England?

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Lincolnshire. At the moment I live in a fairly suburban area, at least in the immediate vicinity. When I first got the cat, we lived on an inner-city estate.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

advantage worked well for us. haven't considered the whole chip thing.
m.

msp (mspa), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Given the weather in your part of the world, how bad is the flea problem, Forest?

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know how the weather makes much of a difference. It *was* bad before I started using the smelly stuff on him every month.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Indoor cats live longer because outdoor cats get more diseases and get into more accidents. Who cares about "anthropomorphizing" etc.

it was a different shark (wetmink2), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I dunno, chipping cats seems like a test run for chipping kids.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Ya, Casuistry, I feel a little like that too. A little...no, a LOT big brotherish. And yet...maybe??? no. Chipping a kid's NOT a good idea. Wrong wrong wrong.


But tagged kids are SO much easier to find say if you leave them somewhere, like the supermarket.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

http://www.facebook.com/ilovecatz?v=feed&story_fbid=111773784896

I think they should punish those who declaw their cats by chopping off their fingertips up to the first knuckle. After all, that's pretty much what they're doing to their cats when they have them declawed.

it´s a crime and they should be punisched... it´s cruell!!!would you live without fingernaigels???

velko, Sunday, 6 September 2009 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link

nothing wrong with keeping a kitty indoors, but declawing is pretty cruel imo.

OTM Level III (latebloomer), Sunday, 6 September 2009 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link

fingernaigels

OTM Level III (latebloomer), Sunday, 6 September 2009 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link

my cat has nails.
he also has a bunch of mosquito bites on his ears from going outside. they are all gnarly little bumps the poor man :(

ian, Sunday, 6 September 2009 03:58 (fourteen years ago) link

ppl who declaw their cats drive me nuts. it's not THAT hard to teach a cat to quit clawing the furniture, and if you can't bear being scratched a little once in a while you probably shouldn't own a pet in the first place.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 6 September 2009 05:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I would never declaw but my cat srsly does need a claw trim - even when retracted her claws poke out a bit. She has a habit of gently patting my face with her paw to say "me me gimme pats" but she cant help but scratch me even when she's extra-careful, which she tries to be! Its so cuet <3

our soldiers die like chickens day by day (Trayce), Sunday, 6 September 2009 05:04 (fourteen years ago) link

we take our cat out for walks in the apartment courtyard a few times a week, letting her climb trees and chase lizards, etc., and that seems to keep her happy. i can't imagine just putting her outside without supervision -- every cat owner i know who's done that ends up losing their cat sooner or later, to cars or coyotes (i live in the southwest).

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 6 September 2009 05:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah same, my cat would bolt (and has tried to) when Ive let her out back. THough I'm sure she'd not go far, I'm too concerned to try. Also, our new house is raised up and looks like a determined cat could squeeze under there... and then get stuck, knowing my idiot cat. And she'd get into biffo with a possum.

our soldiers die like chickens day by day (Trayce), Sunday, 6 September 2009 05:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i can totally understand keeping your cat indoors if you live in an urban area. my family has 3 cats, all of which are allowed outside as they please (this is the suburbs) and they come back just fine - your cat will come back if it likes you. my one cat is pretty badass and likes hunting a lot so we won't see her for days at a time sometimes but we know she's fine

the fleet bon fox jumps iver the blank dog (k3vin k.), Sunday, 6 September 2009 05:13 (fourteen years ago) link

keeping it inside if you live in a safe, suburban community is fuckin cruel tho

the fleet bon fox jumps iver the blank dog (k3vin k.), Sunday, 6 September 2009 05:14 (fourteen years ago) link

my friend tried this.
went well for about 2 weeks until his neighbour asked him to come out and clean his cat up off the street.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Sunday, 6 September 2009 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link

keeping it inside if you live in a safe, suburban community is fuckin cruel tho

oh fuck you!

OTM Level III (latebloomer), Sunday, 6 September 2009 06:34 (fourteen years ago) link

we've had our cat in the house for 12 years now and she's fine.

OTM Level III (latebloomer), Sunday, 6 September 2009 06:35 (fourteen years ago) link

and yeah letting your cat outdoors is great until they come back with some disease or get run over. which happened to our previous cats and it's why my family has kept our other cats indoor.

OTM Level III (latebloomer), Sunday, 6 September 2009 06:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, just fuck this whole "keeping them indoors is cruel because they can't unleash their inner jungle beast and be happy" romantic bullshit.

OTM Level III (latebloomer), Sunday, 6 September 2009 06:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, not that i''m saying it's bad to let them outside or anything, just, i just really, really resent the insinuation that i'm being cruel to my kitty, who has overall been a pretty healthy, outgoing, very sweet and happy cat.

OTM Level III (latebloomer), Sunday, 6 September 2009 06:54 (fourteen years ago) link

it's not like they're orcas or wildebeest. they're cats!

OTM Level III (latebloomer), Sunday, 6 September 2009 06:57 (fourteen years ago) link

declawing is some bullshit though.

OTM Level III (latebloomer), Sunday, 6 September 2009 06:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyway, I'll bow out before I embarrass myself further.

Remember to spay and neuter your pets!

OTM Level III (latebloomer), Sunday, 6 September 2009 06:59 (fourteen years ago) link


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