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Okay you are all correct I will just pitch the laptop out the window when I get home.

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:46 (twenty years ago) link

windows me always makes me think of M-E.

― david. (Cozen), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:46 (twenty years ago) link

Still one of design's greatest moments, that Spencer ad.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:47 (twenty years ago) link

Like the computer would allow that. It'd go all HAL on your ass. There's only one way to stop it...

Also Spencer that's really fucking creepy, don't they actually have oxygen bars in LA?

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:48 (twenty years ago) link

Ally, do you hate the boardgame "Life" also? And the cereal? Because I am fond of both and don't want them pitched out windows, unless I'm standing under the window with my arms outstretched and ready.

― NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:48 (twenty years ago) link

Like the computer would allow that. It'd go all HAL on your ass. There's only one way to stop it...

http://www.lefigaro.fr/dossiers/adv/figaro/vins/_art/vin_fonseca_tbogaty_2704/vin_fonseca_tbogaty_2704_251.jpg
Indeed!

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:53 (twenty years ago) link

I was just thinking about the boardgame Life actually. Me and my mom were discussing a game, a game with prizes, a gambling game, and I said I did not want to win a house in Arizona. She said, "Well, you can sell them" and I said, "No, you are stuck with them, it is like the gift of life, there's no way out" to which she said, "Jesus, god, wtf is wrong with you today?" And I then asked her if she had my box of the game LIFE. She said no, but she had a copy of Frampton Comes Alive if I wanted it. I kind of don't, you know? Especially since it's vinyl. I told her it's not what the kids like. I haven't had the cereal in a long time though, I can't remember if it's good or not.

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:53 (twenty years ago) link

Creating gay and lesbian couples in a game of LIFE is most fun.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:55 (twenty years ago) link

dude, you f*cked up by not getting the Frampton.

xpost

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:56 (twenty years ago) link

getting the Frampton

My euphemistic mind starts pondering.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:57 (twenty years ago) link

No, Ned, it's not. Most fun is getting bored halfway through and getting up and walking away cos, fucking A, yet again you've somehow landed on every possible way to get pregnant! Your car has so many children that it is overflowing with children and it's not funny now because you can't keep them in the car and everyone is laughing at you. So instead you get up, take the little plastic Strega Nona's children-maker, and force feed it to the dog that just threw up on you. That is the most fun, Ned. At least if you are me and you were 8.

xpost the Frampton is still on offer, you want it Spencer?

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:58 (twenty years ago) link

It involves a guitar and a vibrating tube.

― NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:59 (twenty years ago) link

TOM EWING TO THREAD

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:01 (twenty years ago) link

I am really glad I never had siblings and never played Life. Also I am kind of thinking about what would have happened to my career arc had I ever stopped to seriously think about how stupid the names are on nearly every piece of software I've ever used.

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:01 (twenty years ago) link

TS: Life vs Candyland

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:02 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not saying that other computer names aren't STUPID, I'm saying they aren't AS CREEPY as "iLife". It sounds like something out of a 1960s or 1970s sci fi film, the computer that will control everyone or something.

Whatever, I feel like fucking Criswell at the end of Plan 9 right now. YOU KIDS AND YOUR...VITAMINS!

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:04 (twenty years ago) link

SHUT UP DAN QUEEN FROSTINE WAS TOTALLY HOT AND YOU KNOW IT!!!!!!!

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:05 (twenty years ago) link

Wasn't the insidious nanotech culture in Grant Morrison's The Filth called I-Life?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:10 (twenty years ago) link

sounds about right. was the filth any better than the invisibles?

― kephm, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

Well, I liked it, but if you didn't like the Invisibles you probably won't. More conceptual 'weirdness' and less narrative, and a more likeable protaganist.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:27 (twenty years ago) link

oh i liked the invisibles quite a bit. it got a bit weak in the end though

― kephm, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:30 (twenty years ago) link

That's probably evidence you wouldn't like the Filth as much, since doesn't the invisibles go off the deep end towards the end? the filth is like that. Except for the Soviet assassination ape, he was cool.

― Dan I., Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:35 (twenty years ago) link

GARAGE BAND

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:36 (twenty years ago) link

We've found a more interesting discussion topic than talking about your computer for the umpteenth billionth time, WHOOOOPS. VITAMINS... I think I'm going to go buy Plan 9 after work today.

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:37 (twenty years ago) link

"creepy ass hit"?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:38 (twenty years ago) link

"creepy as shit"

I know, though, I thought that as soon as I hit submit.

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:39 (twenty years ago) link

Garage band looks a hell of a lot like a bunch of existing programs, doesn't it? I mean, Cubase gets a lot of derision heaped upon it, but what's the difference between this and that (with a bunch of things rewired into it, which isn't that big of a deal)? It does look easier, but why is that a selling point for you personally, Tom?

― Dan I., Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:39 (twenty years ago) link

Actually I don't know anything about this sort of thing. It does look really cool.

― Dan I., Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:42 (twenty years ago) link

Dan the Grant Morrison discussion is more interesting, please stop talking about my stupid piece of shit computer already, god

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:43 (twenty years ago) link

My feelings were about to get hurt for a second.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:49 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry about that

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:51 (twenty years ago) link

Haha jesus christ you are the biggest crybaby when your threads get derailed, I'm sure everyone else on the board LOVES it when you do the same to their threads? WTF, I hate your damn computer 99% of the time, sorry. I had the same question about this Garage Band thing though, because besides the creepy software bundle name it basically looked the same as the rest of the software I've looked at that does similar things.

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:54 (twenty years ago) link

T/S: "Derailment of a perfectly good Apple thread via your lame comic books" vs. "Derailment of a perfectly good Apple thread via your lame relationship problems"

― dean gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:01 (twenty years ago) link

so is garageband:soundtrack::imove:fcp?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

I mean imovie

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

Granted, I haven't used Garage Band or Soundtrack ... but from what I can tell, they look way more similar than iMovie and FCP are.

― dean gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:23 (twenty years ago) link

revised:

garage band:soundtrack::final cut express:final cut pro?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:24 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, I believe so. Or even GB:ST :: Adobe Premiere : Final Cut Pro perhaps? ONLY TIME SHALL TELL.

― dean gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 00:28 (twenty years ago) link

garage band appears to be soundtrack lite plus logic audio lite

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 06:52 (twenty years ago) link

more extensive notes on garage band forthcoming as I have just put down my $53.00

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 06:59 (twenty years ago) link

I got it yesterday. Obv I have other things to do than play around with it all day but so far it seems really easy to use and quite functional. Soon enough I will try to input some of my own loops and edit away, but the sequencer functions are decent and it syncs really well with the cheap controller keyboard I have (m-audio oxygen8). I would say it's really easy to grasp intuitively interface-wise but then again I play with all sorts of fucked up software for a living and am kind of skewed in that regard.

― TOMBOT, Saturday, 17 January 2004 00:22 (twenty years ago) link

Obviously I have better things to do than buy this... etc ad nauseum

― dean! (deangulberry), Saturday, 17 January 2004 00:24 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah the 53 bucks with shipping and handling is fucking killing me already

― TOMBOT, Saturday, 17 January 2004 00:26 (twenty years ago) link

I wanna try this! tom, please keep us appraised!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 January 2004 00:27 (twenty years ago) link

I got iLife yesterday, too.

FUCKING IDVD4 PROMPTLY FUCKING CRASHED WHEN ENCODING A DVD.

I had major problems with iDVD3. It took me hours and dozens of restarts in order to be able to burn a DVD and once I burned it I had artifacts all over the place. It was fucking unusable. And I'm on a dual 2hz G5!

Panther has been a horrible upgrade for me, and I tend to blame it on G5 technology being so new. I get kernel panics at least once a week, etc. Very annoying. I never had one kernel panic ever with my old G4 and Panther.

iPhoto is seriously faster though. Final Cut Express 2 is faster as well and is optimized for my dual G5 which is awesome. Garageband is better than Soundtrack, methinks.

― don weiner, Saturday, 17 January 2004 12:03 (twenty years ago) link

ME is not pronounced as the word "Me", it is pronounced as an acronym, M-E

This makes no sense. The definition of an acronym is an abbreviation made from intital letters that is pronounced as a word. So AIDS is an acronym, IRS is not.

― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 17 January 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago) link

don, there should be a update in a week or so with new bits, possibly even kernel compiled with IBM's new compiler rather than gcc. Things should get better

― Ed (dali), Saturday, 17 January 2004 16:07 (twenty years ago) link

hey don, why do you prefer garageband?

(can you tell I'm trying to convince myself to buy ilife?)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 17 January 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago) link

FUCKING IDVD4 PROMPTLY FUCKING CRASHED WHEN ENCODING A DVD.

DVDSP!!!!!

― dean! (deangulberry), Saturday, 17 January 2004 19:11 (twenty years ago) link

I just ordered mine today. Oh, sweet sweet liddle baby 12" mactop. What shall I call it? I want to call it Percy because it will fit in my purse, and I will punnish it with my palms. Heh.

Oh, UPS, speed my baby to me!

― the river fleet, Sunday, 18 January 2004 19:19 (twenty years ago) link

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