What's your Thanksgiving timetable?

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Canned? Cranberry sauce is so easy to make!

Maybe I should hop on the Empire Builder and crash the Jaq Family Thanksgiving.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 14 November 2005 00:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh do! You'd be very welcome, and I'll make the famous presbyterian rolls sans lard :)

I love me some canned cranberry sauce, the totally smooth kind that plops out of the can with the ringmarks.

We may be in Portland for a night or two around Christmas/New Years, in transit to Seattle, btw.

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 14 November 2005 02:37 (eighteen years ago) link

At $55 each way on Amtrak, perhaps not. Not while I'm unemployed.

But of course I do want to see you guys when you come by Portland.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 14 November 2005 06:14 (eighteen years ago) link

That is a bit steep. We are debating train vs. driving Prius vs. not going to Seattle at all for the holidays. Currently, I'm mostly for staying home and sleeping endlessly.

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I do that every day! You need to do something special for the holidays!

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I beg you all to make Turkey Devonshires with your Thanksgiving leftovers. I swear by 'em.

ng-unit, Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I write thesis and do no cooking, two years in a row.

remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 18 November 2005 08:25 (eighteen years ago) link

So, any recipes for vegetarian gravy? I haven't ever really been too into gravy but I feel like I might want some this year, and my guests are only making meaty gravy.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I think if you could make a nice rich stock from roasted veggies, cooked down some, you could make an excellent gravy from it, either with a dark roux or thickened with cornstarch.

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Went to the butcher's yesterday to buy the goose they've had in their freezer for the past 3 months...and it was GONE! No more to be had until Christmastime.

So, we are having duck.

Jaq (Jaq), Sunday, 20 November 2005 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Tonight: steam the pumpkin pudding. After last year's near disaster,I am using 2 4-cup ramekins instead of the fluted cake pan.

Tomorrow: start the dough for the presbyterian rolls. Buy a green vegetable (brussel sprouts?).

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

mmm have you ever roasted sprouts, a la asparagus appointment? they're great, almost popcorny.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

What is aspargus appointment?

I roasted some lightly coated with olive oil, mixed with some walnut halves and shaved parmesan, last year and they were amazing.

We've been having lots of green beans of late - sauted in a hot skillet in a bit of oil until a bit charred but still bright green, tossed with a touch of toasted sesame oil and a drop of chili oil. Sprinkle on some crushed red pepper flakes at the end. Very spicy good.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Asparagus appointment

Breads are starting. A biga is slowly rising. Slowly.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 02:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh wow - next asparagus season, we will do this. This year, we did excessive amounts of grilled asparagus. We are seriously spoiled, living in asparagus country and having a good farmers market.

Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 03:04 (eighteen years ago) link

There were no brussel sprouts to be had at Safeway, and the asparagus looked sad, so we had broccoli instead. Yeah hollandaise sauce!!! Which, I just realized, I forgot to put the leftover sauce on the french omelettes this morning...

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 25 November 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
Is it too early to start thinking about Thanksgiving?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 8 October 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

NO WAY.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 8 October 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

There were pumpkins in the grocery today!!! Pumpkin pudding time!

Jaq (Jaq), Sunday, 8 October 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, pumpkins everywhere. is cooking with fresh much better? i've only ever used canned pumpkin and have been told that for most baked goods/soups it's doesn't make much of a difference.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Fresh is a pain for baked goods/soups. I always used canned. I also blot out most of the moisture w/ paper towels.

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe it is the kind of pumpkin baking you guys do, but the idea of even asking about cooking fresh pumpkin is amazing to me! They sell it in the veg aisle all year round where I live, and I dont think I've ever seen canned pumpkin in my life.

It is rather a pain to skin pumpkin mind you (I just slice big chunks of skin off). Most of my punkin cooking is roast chunks of it, punkin soup (savoury and curried, not really that sweet), and veg curries.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 04:36 (seventeen years ago) link

okay I can't believe I'm the first one to ask this, but jaq will you share your pumpkin pudding recipe? we usually do a persimmon pudding around this time but honestly pumpkin sounds better.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link

It does sound very tasty.

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Sure! But, I'm on a jobsite until tomorrow, and then we are moving, and then I'm back on the jobsite until 11/2 :(

I might be able to do it from memory though...

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay. I started making this because I love the filling of pumpkin pie but was not a crust person. I started out by using a standard pumpkin pie recipe (for 2 pies), mixing in 1/2 cup of flour, filling a greased and floured bundt pan with the mixture, and steaming it in a bain marie at 315 - 325 deg F for 4-5 hours. The top of the mixture gets that caramelized look toward the end. Removed from the oven and thoroughly cooled, I would unmold onto a cake plate and fill the center with whipped heavy cream sweetened with maple syrup.

From memory, the standard pie recipe has 1 big can of pumpkin (28 oz maybe?), 4 well-beaten (foamy) large eggs, 1 can sweetened condensed milk, tsp. cinnamon, 1/2 tsp ginger, 1/2 tsp mace, 1/2 tsp allspice. Mix together well, then stir in 1/2 cup flour, sifted.

A few years ago, Cooks Illustrated did some research on pumpkin pie, in which they dewatered the pumpkin on a thick layer of white paper towels spread on a baking sheet. Pumpkin has this great property of not sticking to the paper. I put down 5 or 6 layers of towels and spoon/smear the canned pumpkin over them. Lay a couple more thicknesses of towel on top and press. Change the top layer of towels several times. It doesn't have to be bone dry, but you want to take out a good quantity of moisture. When you're done sopping up the top layer, carefully lift one end of the bottom layer of toweling and flip that half of the pumpkin over on top of the other half, to make it easier to get into the bowl. When I make it this year, we'll do a photo session of the process :)

After nearly setting the cabinets on fire three years ago because my giant stainless bowl/bundt pan combo didn't actually fit in the oven, I switched to making the same amount of pudding divided into 2 4 cup ceramic ramekins and using my big oval roasting pan for the bain marie. The water needs to come all the way to the top of the mix in the mold, and I add more at the 1/2 way point of baking. I also start the baking/steaming with hot water in the bain marie, to speed things up a little bit. The 2 ramekins cook in 3 - 4 hours at 315 - 325 deg F. I don't bother greasing/flouring because I don't unmold it, just scoop it out instead.

Over the years I've tried straight baking vs. steaming - the results were not good. Higher heat/shorter time is also bad. Eating it hot is bad - the texture is all wrong until it has cooled. Warm is good, cold is better. It's not terribly sweet and it's delicious for breakfast.

Jaq (Jaq), Saturday, 21 October 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, it was only 2 years ago we had that idiot-designed kitchen. Time dragged on the steppes.

Jaq (Jaq), Saturday, 21 October 2006 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

When I make it this year, we'll do a photo session of the process :)

I am looking forward to this! This technique sounds very interesting.

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Monday, 23 October 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

It makes the end result very velvety - I think it would do the same for pumpkin pie as well as making pumpkin bread more densely pumpkin-y.

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 23 October 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Now I'm looking back and wondering exactly what I did the last two Thanksgivings.

Oh, wait, now I remember last year! Holy crap, that was weird. I haven't seen any of the people I ate Thanksgiving with again.

Anyway I will be making breads and pies. My apple cranberry pie will make its turn. And maybe I'll try out Jaq's pumpkin madness. (Unless you want to come down for our Sunday-before-Tgiving orphan's Tgiving party/house show?)

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 02:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I almost wish we did thanksgiving as well as xmas - you guys get all these extra reasons to cook up groaning table-fulls of food!

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 02:27 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
OMG, what was I thinking ordering the XL turkey! It's 25 pounds and does not fit in my roasting pan! I'll be making up the pumpkin pudding tomorrow - time for a photo essay. That apple-cranberry pie sounds terrific, btw. Tell more about pumpkin challah?

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 20 November 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

We don't have a T'giving timetable this year -- the big get together is at one of my nephews' in-laws house this year, and we're just not going to mess with it. Going to Tupelo to see "The Fountain" and let someone else do the cooking.

Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 03:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Everyone's coming over later this year - dinner at 6-ish instead of 1 or 2. Current internal debate raging: presbyterian rolls AND corn dodgers, or just the rolls? Also, something special for the vegetarians, but WHAT??

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

it sounds like you'll be doing a lot of cooking already, so if you don't want to add another dish to the list then as a former veg i'd recommend a quorn roast turkey breast. otherwise i'd probably go for an indian dish, something that would complement autumnal flavors.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Lauren, I appreciate the suggestion and will seek the quorn! I now know better than to offer the overly cheezed lasagna, the gloppy mushroom risotto, the quiche, the stuffed acorn squash, because eggy cheesy starchiness, though appreciated, are not quite holiday enough. And not being a vegetarian myself, I'm never sure what meat alternative avenues to explore. I saw this stuff called field roast on the menu at the Elysian Brewery a few months ago that sounded interesting, but again, don't know enough about it.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

cool. quorn is so easy (into the oven it goes), and more importantly it actually looks/tastes reasonably like poultry.

if you google for nut roast recipes, you'll probably turn up a bunch of stuff. they have a reputation (in the uk, anyway) for being the ultimate humorless (and tasteless) vegetarian dish, but that rep is pretty outdated and i'm quite fond of them.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone was just going on and on about how awesome quorn is the other day. I've never had it.

The pumpkin challah is just challah with pumpkin. Let's see...

One envelope instant yeast, 1/2 tsp cardamom, 1/2 tsp ginger, 2/3 c (90g) bread flour, 2/3 c (140g) hot water. 20 minutes until bubbling. Then add 1/3 c (70g) sugar, 1/4 c (55g) oil, 1 1/2 tsp (8g) salt, an egg, 1/2 c (115g) pumpkin. Then the remaining 3c+2tbsp (410g) bread flour. Knead, let rise, shape, let rise again. Makes two 1 lb loaves or 1 1.5 lb loaf and 3 rolls. Glaze with egg wash and add sesame seeds. Cook (rolls 25, 1 lb for 40, 1.5 lb for 45 minute) at 350/180C/mark 4.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 03:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I baked a very large number of yams last night - they will be peeled and smashed with a copious amount of butter. Tonight - pumpkin pudding preparation and steaming. Also, turkey brining. The beast is so huge, I have to brine it in the Coleman ice chest. Mr. Jaq ran out to the restaurant supply store yesterday to get an industrial sized roasting pan, as my normal 20 quart oval one wasn't going to cut it.

Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, corrections to the pumpkin pudding recipe (bad idea to type it in all from memory...): either 2 cans of sweetened condensed milk or 2 cans of evaporated milk and 1.5 cups of sugar. I prefer sweetened condensed because it has a lovely caramel flavor already and it's less processed than straight evaporated milk. Add 1 tsp salt and double the amount of cinnamon and ginger (2 tsp cinnamon, 1 tsp ginger, 1/2 tsp nutmeg or mace, 1/2 tsp allspice or cloves).

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 23 November 2006 01:07 (seventeen years ago) link

is quorn not still made from proteins from battery hen eggs?

(sorry to piss on anyone's chips here, but when I was veggie I stopped eating it)

(yes yes, I once was veggie)

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 23 November 2006 08:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I stopped eating it when I was a veggie for those reasons too.

(yes, yes, I was a veggie as well)

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 23 November 2006 09:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm - I thought it was made from fungus. Have to check the package labeling.

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

quorn is mainly a fungus-derived protein, but it also contains a small amount egg whites so it's possible they use battery hens.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Aha! Wiki has this:

Quorn's uptake in the vegetarian market was hampered by the use of battery eggs in its production process, a practice opposed on ethical grounds by many vegetarians. For this reason, the Vegetarian Society initially did not approve these products. Working with the Vegetarian Society, Marlow began phasing out battery eggs in 2000, and by 2004 all Quorn products sold in the UK were produced without battery eggs, earning the seal of approval of the UK branch of the Vegetarian Society.

Note all the UK qualifiers.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going to a Thanksgiving bash tomorrow so I'm taking some mulling spice ice-cream. It's dead easy to make - you just put a bag of spices in with the cream at the beginning, then keep it in the mix until you're about to pour the custard into the machine. Yumski.

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

re: quorn - well, it doesn't say where the egg whites come from, but it's moot now anyway as the "vegetarian" children have declared they would like grilled salmon today please.

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

It's time to REVIVE!

My current T'day schedule: hope and pray I get to go home on Tuesday 11/20.

Jaq, Saturday, 10 November 2007 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link

research paper due monday 11/19. everything thanksgiving to occur after that.

tehresa, Saturday, 10 November 2007 06:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm thinking t'day might get pushed back a bit later in the month this year.

Jaq, Saturday, 10 November 2007 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link

tonight:

assemble strata for breakfast
mash potatoes
make pumpkin pie

losses so far:
dropped (1) egg on the ground
spilled custard out of the side of the strata on its way into the fridge

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link

i feel a milk shortage coming on, hope the convenience store is open tomorrow

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link

zucchini casserole assemblage this afternoon, pumpkin pie tomorrow morn

zuch recipe calls for two (2) onions
I only have 2 left for the week
1 onion it is

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 November 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

rip egg (xpost)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 November 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

pumpkin pie in the oven :D

every year, my plea is the same: my kingdom for a bigger kitchen. or one that doesn't ramp up to 'temperature of the sun' whenever I turn on the oven. :(

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:48 (eleven years ago) link

all that's left is sweet potato/apple gratin

I think this is the most relaxed I've been before thanksgiving yet! Changing up my pumpkin pie recipe to a simpler one really made a big difference in my timetable.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 November 2012 07:37 (eleven years ago) link

strata - in the oven (bacon, gruyere, some super stale bread)

still left:
butter rolls (i make these 1x a year only on thanksgiving but they are soooooooo good)
garlic herb butter (this is easy obvs)
oh and lunch and turkey + sauteed green beans with almonds and orange zest (green bean casserole is not edible imo)

lunch = crackers + cheese (4 kinds) + baby lettuce salad with pears, bacon, gorgonzola, and some kind of spiced nuts that i'm not sure i even have) + fancy beer

i guess i must enjoy spending all day cooking because i do this every year. i hope i can find the cheesecloth.

passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 November 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

i haven't even started thinking about the turkey yet
breakfast and lunch are cooked, eaten, and cleaned up after

i think i hate the idea of eating everything at once, so i just spread it out as much as possible so it's a FULL DAY OF COOKINGEATINGDRINKING.

passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 November 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

sweet potato/apple gratin in the oven which means my work here is done.

next: feasting :D

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 November 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

fridge full of leftover pie

best
thing
ever

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 November 2012 05:55 (eleven years ago) link

PUMPKIN PIE FOR BREAKFAST

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 November 2012 05:55 (eleven years ago) link

^

estela, Friday, 23 November 2012 12:48 (eleven years ago) link

i made a bourbon maple whipped cream for the pumpkin pie. mr veg said it was strong enough that you could get drunk off a whole pie worth :D

bourbon goooooood

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 November 2012 08:41 (eleven years ago) link

Thanksgiving leftovers will conclude today with a turkey/cranberry sauce/deshi chutney naanwich.

One of the weirder things I made with leftovers were these little potato pancakes with
mashed potatoes
1 egg
dal palak that i bought on the monday before thanksgiving to last me through the days leading up to Thurs

in other words, mashed potatoes + old leftovers, and it was really really good. not very appetizing to look at, unfortunately, but rather tasty considering the circumstances.

apparently i like to talk about leftovers.

passion it person (La Lechera), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

it's that time again!

i refuse to make a boring turkey because that is not what i want to eat so i am making gumbo instead and it will be spicy and delicious. also making trad butter rolls, pumpkin pie, something with pears, and something with lavender because that's what i do every year. i have not shopped and have no timetable.

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link

i have decided to make 3 pies and leave the sides and meat to my inlaws.

pumpkin pie
cheescake
peanut butter pie

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 November 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link

my timetable is to see if Katz's Deli is open

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 November 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link

We will be on the road in Texas for T'day and will likely seek out brisket in lieu of turkey.

quincie, Monday, 25 November 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link

Saw a recipe this morning for fried dressing balls with cranberry dipping sauce.

WilliamC, Monday, 25 November 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link

whaaaaat omg

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 November 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link

i am going to my friend's house to watch football and smoke weed and eat a ham. no turkey.

sleepingbag, Monday, 25 November 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Took the pork roast out of the freezer.

mutually aquatinted (doo dah), Sunday, 22 November 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link

eight years pass...

Good morning!

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 November 2023 13:43 (four months ago) link

Yams roasted yesterday. Chicken this year as the main protein. Sides of brussel sprouts, cranberries, yams, dinner rolls. Cheesecake for dessert.

Jaq, Thursday, 23 November 2023 15:32 (four months ago) link

Made cherry pie yesterday, today it’s gumbo* butter rolls w herb butter, lightly sautéed green beans then pie w ice cream for dessert. Cooking for 4.

* I’ve done this for about 15 years bc it’s easy to procure ingreds, I’d never make a dark roux on a normal day, and it’s the only thing my dad ever cooked and he passed away in May. It’ll maybe taste different today.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 23 November 2023 15:41 (four months ago) link

<3 sounds delicious

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 November 2023 16:35 (four months ago) link

cheesecake made last night
mr veg smoking turkey breast on bbq
i’ll make sides later: braised brussel sprouts w cream; roasted cauliflower w smoked paprika; and green beans w lemon & parsley
they’re all pretty easy-do

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 November 2023 16:39 (four months ago) link

we got a super fancy takeout meal, gonna start heating things up around 3 pm

Spiced Nuts
Marinated Olives
Onion Dip, Smoked Trout Roe & Housemade Chips
Brie & Quince Turnovers

Herb Roasted Turkey Breast & Confit Leg
turkey gravy & cranberry orange chutney

Mashed Potatoes

Wild Mushroom & Leek Stuffing
chanterelles & thyme

Green Beans
onion soubise & crispy shallots

Roasted Fall Vegetables
spicy maple & rosemary

Chicory Salad
beets, apple, hazelnut vinaigrette

Pumpkin Pie
chantilly cream

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 23 November 2023 18:06 (four months ago) link

just the two of us, for the first time I can remember

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 23 November 2023 18:07 (four months ago) link

wow that sounds amazing

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 November 2023 18:24 (four months ago) link

yours sounds great too! mmm smoked turkey

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 23 November 2023 18:25 (four months ago) link

my faaaaaavorite

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 November 2023 19:24 (four months ago) link

The turkey went in the oven at 1pm; should be ready and resting at 4:30. At that point I start the potatoes (peeled and in water on the stove top) and put the fish (for my sister) in the oven. The asparagus is also ready for a quick steaming.

My guests are scheduled to arrive around 4pm; my mother's stuffing goes into the oven to warm up.

Officially everything is planned for 5pm, but my guests have not been fussy in the past. And a good thing; while I've done this before, so much of this has to be done at the last minute.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, 23 November 2023 20:01 (four months ago) link


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