Motorhead: C or D

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"Orgasmatron" is the BEST SONG EVAH.

The album suffers from a very weak sound, so it's the live recordings that make this song so great.

Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 17 October 2002 17:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

lemmy was smugglin plums. haha.

Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 17 October 2002 17:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

six months pass...
I picked up Motorhead's "Ace of Spades" CD last week used. This album is great front to back, not a bad song including the bonus tracks, further proof that it is probably better to check a band's best album rather than compilation.

The remaster work is much improved over the old CD master of "No Remorse" that I had until it got lost. (My first copy of No Remorse was a cassette that I bought at a truck stop on a road trip.)

Motorhead make riding a big Harley hog and doing mounds of speed seem like a good idea.

earlnash, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:26 (twenty years ago) link

I got this as well. It was £4 for what looks like a German reissue or something. Agreed it's fantastic. The whole band sounds as one, so it seems strange that Lemmy has become "the face" of Motorhead and a celebrity. There are a lot of similarities to the Ramones I think.

Nick H, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:43 (twenty years ago) link

eight months pass...
This Motorhead box set that came out recently is the bee's knees, I tell you. And I love that weird little percussion break of sorts on "Ace of Spades."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:35 (twenty years ago) link

how could you even ask if motorhead were C or D?

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:39 (twenty years ago) link

Is it just my imagination or do they get a surprisingly muffled, splishy, drab, dull sound in the studio? I hardly noticed at first due to the power and energy of the songs themselves, but surely the sound could be that dirty without being so flat, grey and trebly? And the drums - always too small in the mix? What's with the space-swallowing, washy, slatey reverbs on everything? And the mono sound? Is it a hangover from Hawkwind? I'm talking about their pre-1991 stuff here, haven't heard their recent stuff. Also, for some reason, 'Ace of Spades' seems to be an exception.

Also, what's their best recenbt album? Recommendations?

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:53 (twenty years ago) link

Since I really liked 'Ace of Spades', I went out and got the cd reissues of 'Bomber' and 'Overkill'.

Overkill is great, maybe just a hair below Ace of Spades as an album. Bomber isn't quite as great, but it is still pretty good.
Both were produced by Jimmy Miller, which was a bit of a surprise.

I'm sure all of Motorhead's early records were done on a tight budget. Lemmy plays chords with a distorted bass tone on quite a few tunes, which tends to blend with the guitar into a big overdriven pudding.

The thing I dig about the albums compared to Motorhead comps is that they leave off many good mid-tempo boogie numbers.


earlnash, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 03:25 (twenty years ago) link

The grumbling spoken word version of "Orgasmatron" on this box set is flat out fucking amazing. And the radio session take of same equally so.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 03:42 (twenty years ago) link

If you can find it, a good starter is a 2CD best-of by Metal-Is label, released around 2000. Worth it for the long version of 'Overkill', covers of 'Louie Louie', 'God Save the Queen', plus tracks by Headgirl, Girlschool, and the original Hawkwind song 'Motorhead'. Also a nice booklet with the history of the band

'Damage Case' may be the best Motorhead song

but

'Killed by Death' is the best video clip in the history of hard rock. It has Lemmy and the gang riding around with chicks on motorcycles and dirt buggies, then a bunch of cops shoot Lemmy with shotguns, then it cuts to Lemmy's funeral, where he rides out of his grave on a motorcycle.

Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 03:46 (twenty years ago) link

rock and roll!

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:27 (twenty years ago) link

Classic. Lemmy's wart has mystical healing powers. future genrations will cherish and possibly worship it as a source of great, great power...

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 09:12 (twenty years ago) link

Anyone who says "dud" should be ripped apart by famished hyaenas.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:59 (twenty years ago) link

>Also, what's their best recent album? Recommendations?

The thing with Motorhead is that every single one of their albums has at least three songs, and sometimes four or five, that are totally mind-destroyingly brilliant. Hammered, the most recent one, is no exception, but of their "recent" stuff (since 1991, say), I'd pick Overnight Sensation. Not just for the title track and "Love Can't Buy You Money," but for "I Don't Believe A Word," which is, I think, even better than "Orgasmatron" for total everybody-sucks-and-there's-no-hope fatalism.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago) link

'motorhead', 'overkill', 'bomber' , 'ace of spades' and 'no sleep 'til hammersmith' - all classic.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 18:12 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not a huge hardcore motorhead fan, but I do love what I have (Ace, Iron Fist, 1916)....

I really actually love 1916, even thought it's maybe a bit of a "leftfield" album for them....How is that album regarded by hardcore MH fans?

No Voices in the Sky, the title track, Ramones, and a bunch of others are pretty great imo.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 18:18 (twenty years ago) link

1916 also has "I'm So Bad (Baby I Don't Care)," so it's a definite winner.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

1916 also has "R.A.M.O.N.E.S" such it's positvely ESSENTIAL!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 19:45 (twenty years ago) link

Most hardcore Motorhead fans I know consider 1916 as the best post-"Orgasmatron" album. I completely agree.

Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 22:53 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
This is an interview with Lemmy I did several years ago. I forget what happens in it, but I'm sure it's quite entertaining nonetheless:

http://www.motorhead.ru/art11damagecase.htm

chuck, Monday, 5 April 2004 18:41 (twenty years ago) link

That's a great interview!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 5 April 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link

btw, whatever happened to 'philthy animal' & fast eddie ?

eleki-san (eleki-san), Monday, 5 April 2004 20:24 (twenty years ago) link

well, fast eddie formed fastway...

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 00:48 (twenty years ago) link

Still on the hunt for post-1916 Motorhead. Recommendations?

the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 01:48 (twenty years ago) link

Only post- 1916 release I've heard is Sacrifice, which has its moments. But for me, the TRUE Motorhead is the classic Clarke/Taylor lineup. Underrated: Iron Fist. OVerrated: No Steep 'til Hammersmith, but then I'm not really a fan of live LPs, so my opinion doesn't count for much. (It rarely does)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 04:57 (twenty years ago) link

Goddamit, is there no Motorhead album from the past 15 yrs which isn't a good listen from top to bottom? That's a depressing thought. Say it isn't so.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 05:17 (twenty years ago) link

three years pass...

I couldn't sleep last night and stumbled across the Classic Albums episode on Ace Of Spades. There's some extras which made it onto YouTube - the one to check out is the semi-reunion (Clarke is in a different studio) of Lemmy, Clarke, and Taylor who blast through "We Are The Road Crew" as an instrumental. Amazingly fantastic even with Clarke effectively pasted in.

I've been listening to the reissues today and I love how inverted the early records are compared with subsequent metal albums. Guitar solos aren't mixed up higher, bass solos are (check out the reissue version of "Stay Clean"!). Drums sound more like Keith Moon or Chuck Biscuits rather than the same Bonham mix every metal band goes for. For all the press that Jimmy Miller gets for his work with the Stones, I think Overkill and Bomber are his best production jobs.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone who says "dud" should be ripped apart by famished hyaenas.

Soooo true then. Soooooo true now.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:28 (sixteen years ago) link

alex in nyc otm

deej, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:28 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't much go for metal, but i love those two records (and have the reissue versions)

bb, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link

lemmy is the only bass player that makes playing full voiced chords through the whole song fucking ROCK.

chaki, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:43 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Anyone else heard Motörizer yet? I haven't listened to anything since 1916, which was a long, long time ago. In other words, I don't know if they were still this great the whole time, but it's amazing how much 2008 Motörhead is every bit as kickass as 1978 Motörhead.

Which of the late-period albums are worth looking for?

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 26 July 2008 06:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Inferno is as solid a Motorhead album as there's been since Orgasmatron.

I quite like Sacrifice too, and the last one Kiss of Death was good fun.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 26 July 2008 08:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Hammered is another good one.

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 26 July 2008 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I hate that this is going to sound like snark, because I honestly love the shit out of Motorhead, but here goes... you can tell the difference between albums?

kenan, Saturday, 26 July 2008 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Heh, it's a fair point, but some of them just don't seem to grab me that much - I don't really like much of Bastards or We Are Motorhead (which I think was one of those "stunning return to form" records at the time, but I never got into it).

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 26 July 2008 11:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I have "Motorhead," "Bomber," "Overkill," "Ace of Spades," "Orgasmatron," "1916," and the "No Remorse" comp, and it's no big heresy to put 'em all on shuffle. Sez me.

kenan, Saturday, 26 July 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

>you can tell the difference between albums?

This is actually a fair question. Motörhead albums don't tend to stick in my head; individual songs do, and sometimes it's hard to remember which album a particular favorite song is on. They're a rock 'n' roll band, and they structure their albums in the old-school "hits 'n' filler" way: They open strong, plod along a bit, pick up momentum around the midpoint (where you'd switch sides in vinyl days) and rocket to the end. So I'll rarely listen to a whole album - I'll listen to the good songs off each one.

Another thing: The current lineup is the best lineup. They've been together for over 15 years now (Phil Campbell's been in the band 24 years!), and they're tight enough and comfortable enough with each other that they can experiment and make it work. The so-called "classic" lineup would never have had the guts or ability to write or record songs like "I Don't Believe A Word," "I Am The Sword," "Don't Let Daddy Kiss Me," "1916," or any of a dozen or more other "hey, that doesn't sound like Motörhead!" tracks they've put out since the early '90s.

unperson, Saturday, 26 July 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm seeing them in two weeks at PNC in NJ. It's gonna be my eight-year-old nephew's first concert. Can't wait.

unperson, Saturday, 26 July 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I wasn't actually aware Motorhead had a new album out until this thread got revived, and hey presto it appears in my blog reader a couple of hours later ;)

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 26 July 2008 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks all. I might just do some random cherrypicking of recent albums and see what happens.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 26 July 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Another thing: The current lineup is the best lineup. They've been together for over 15 years now (Phil Campbell's been in the band 24 years!), and they're tight enough and comfortable enough with each other that they can experiment and make it work.

Completely agree. And they sound massive live as well.

you can tell the difference between albums?

I can definitely tell the difference between every album up to, say, 1916, that's for sure. Sonically, pretty much each of those records are actually quite distinctly different.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 26 July 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Surely Lemmy is allowed to smoke on stage? FFS.
Riot. Anarchy. tear the walls down etc

Fer Ark, Saturday, 26 July 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

A couple of tours ago they only played two songs from their normal 'greatest hits' setlist, the rest was all taken from their 85-00 albums. Fucking awesome that was, all sounded like bonafide classics. Really made me reassess those albums. The fact that they can pull this off where every other 30+ year old classic rock band would be booed off if they didn't deliver the hits.

Siegbran, Sunday, 27 July 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I picked this up while record shopping Friday - http://www.rock-n-roll-action-figures.com/lolekimoacfi.html - I want it to come to life and do my bidding.

I can't wait for the documentary to come out!
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0501437/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg0mjnFkeqw

Lemmy is SO cool.

BlackIronPrison, Sunday, 27 July 2008 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

I wish I could find more of those reissues around here, it doesn't even seem like Amazon has them. I picked up the Ace of Spades and Another Perfect Day ones, but I'm hungry for more.

Meanwhile I've been working my way backwards through the recent albums - Motorizer, Kiss of Death, Inferno, and Hammered. And yeah, I've pretty much discovered that each of them has anywhere between 3-6 songs I absolutely love - and a lot of interchangeable filler.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I still listen to Hammered a fair bit - it's a good one, except for that poem at the end, which is totally shit but still good somehow. Highlights on that album are the two songs where he's appreciating two sexy women - Dr Love and and Mine All Mine (?). I love Lemmy when he's giving appreciative props to hot biker chicks - clearly the viagra is working.

The newer Motorhead albums are slower, fatter and warmer, to my ears. The songs are as good as ever, and there is the odd surprise - the band will experiment from time to time with multitracked vocals, pitchshifting, death metal
riffs, psychedelic guitar solos, etc.

Another band I think is worth getting back into is Venom - once again, solid, fat riffs, no huge surprises, a smattering of small surprises.

moley, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

LOVE ME LIKE A REPTILE

LOVE ME LIKE A REPTILE

max, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 01:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Anybody buy the stupidly overpriced deluxe editions of the early albums? I looked at 'em but couldn't justify it.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 02:11 (fifteen years ago) link

no, i'm pretty much with max

get drunk and do legos (contenderizer), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 03:17 (fifteen years ago) link

People say it about many (underserving) bands, but Motorhead really never fell off.

Siegbran, Saturday, 2 July 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Oh no! They're all dead now! RIP Eddie.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 January 2018 11:52 (six years ago) link

yeah the last of the original line-up :-(

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Thursday, 11 January 2018 11:53 (six years ago) link

awwww man

rip Fast Eddie

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 11 January 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link

RIP :(

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link

no!! the 2nd gig i ever went to was motorhead on the 'ace up your sleeve tour'. a forever cherished memory seeing those three play together and hard to believe they are all gone now. so long, eddie.

stirmonster, Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link

let er rip
https://youtu.be/D5_oPyavUaw

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link

i know it’s the motorhead thread, hopefully allowance made for a fastway classik given the circumstances? :D

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 11 January 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link

sadly I only have one motorhead record at home at present: killed by death

rip mr eddie

faust apes (NickB), Thursday, 11 January 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link

Fast Eddie's lead vocal turn with Motorhead on "Step Down" from Bomber.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDwQ7VMg2Sg

earlnash, Friday, 12 January 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link

aw man, RIP. I can always appreciate any Motorhead, but the Fast Eddie-era was always my favourite, particularly for this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RUEKIWfEg8

whitehallunity, Saturday, 13 January 2018 01:12 (six years ago) link

RIP Eddie. Step Down is a jam btw, but then so was pretty much everything he did with Motorhead.

The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link

BTW I only recently discovered Eddie played lead on the two Curtis Knight (&) Zeus albums! Tasty:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW3xZAGWUDM

The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:42 (six years ago) link

Step Down is cool, it's one tune where you can really hear the Hendrix in his playing.

Yeah that Curtis Knight connection in a good rock and roll happenstance, considering Hendrix was a side man with that guy too and Lemmy roadied for Jimi.

earlnash, Sunday, 14 January 2018 00:40 (six years ago) link

eleven months pass...

So for various reasons over the years I had never really listened to Motorhead. Obviously I've heard them, I mean I've read Lemmy's book & watched the doc, but I never owned a record or sat and really listened. Even though I am pretty good friends with a Motorhead fanatic (actually that might explain some of it) and I generally love greasy, English 70s freak rock (Pink Fairies, Stack Waddy, Deviants, I love Mick Farren, etc).

Anyway, a gap in my knowledge.

So I sort of randomly decided on the 28th, since I was on vacation I would listen to Motorhead and I listened to a lot! They were pretty good! They have way better songs then anyone gives them credit for and more, I don't want to say "groove" exactly but there is something going on in the rhythm section. "On Parole" and "Overkill" are my faves.

Motorhead, check them out!

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 20:07 (five years ago) link

My wife coming home from work last Saturday night: "Have you just been listening to Motorhead all day?"
Me: "Yes"

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 20:10 (five years ago) link

They have way better songs then anyone gives them credit for

Well... in actuality, lots of people give Motorhead immense credit for having written many, many great songs.
And Lemmy is regarded by the cognoscenti as having been one of the all-time great rock bassists.

Vast Halo, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 21:34 (five years ago) link

I've been contemplating that the 1981 Who track "The Quiet One" was Entwistle taking on Motorhead, the way "Rough Boys" and other Townshend tracks of the era are directed to the punks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E8as7xpR34

eva logorrhea (bendy), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 23:06 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

If I was a big music manager mogul working for Ozzy Osbourne, I would tell him to make a cover of "Till the End" off the last Motorhead record.

"The Quiet One" would have been an excellent song for Motorhead to cover.

earlnash, Sunday, 17 March 2019 01:30 (five years ago) link

Lots of excellent tracks on the last few albums, always underrated as a songwriter.

bendy, Sunday, 17 March 2019 14:01 (five years ago) link

That fairly recent covers collection was good too: Lemmy was a fair judge of other people's songs as well.

dow, Sunday, 17 March 2019 21:57 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

Lemmy would have been 74 today. I'm listening to a live concert from 1983, included as a bonus disc with the deluxe edition of the very underrated Another Perfect Day. Brian Robertson was a great choice to be their guitarist; it's a shame he didn't want to fully commit to the Motörhead weltanschauung.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ju9QRonoY0

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

yeah was listening to Another Perfect Day for the first time a couple weeks ago

really a great album, he added a lot on guitar

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Lemmy died 5 years ago today

StanM, Monday, 28 December 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

:(

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 December 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link

Considering the number of musicians who dies in 2016, I'm reminded of his comment on the line "I don't wanna live forever" from 'Ace Of Spades': "I'd like to die the year before forever, to avoid the rush."

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Monday, 28 December 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

Yes was just thinking of the count in 2016.

Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 December 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDWJYYBkl8A ass for spayeds was cool!

xzanfar, Monday, 28 December 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

WIll depend on Rollins tolerance but this long tribute podcast is really good: https://www.henryrollins.com/podcasts/2018/8/29/henry-heidi-podcast-lemmy

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 28 December 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

I still have the flyer for their scheduled Feb 2016 show (with Saxon & Girlschool!) on my refrigerator door.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 08:11 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy6NcxDdDWo

On Leno in 1992. I love Lemmy goes over to the house band and gives Branford something before his short interview with Jay.

I forgot that the quartet lineup lasted almost a decade.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 02:33 (one year ago) link


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