Destroyer - Trouble In Dreams - march 2008

yeah,i'm naive.

but wait, i thought this was i LOVE music...

i really dug rubies and from the few times i've heard it this one's good as well. neither of them's a streethawk but they do the grandiose ridiculous epic thing pretty well, i think.

i wonder what's "Plaza Trinidad" is about.
(will the lyrics of this record will be good for a good drinking game as well?)

in the meantime,the other current Destroyer project "hello,blue roses" (with the catchy title:"The Portrait Is Finished and I Have Failed to Capture Your Beauty..." )is leaked.

Oh, did I click on a Destroyer thread by mistake?

and it sounds like yet another unnecessary joni-mitchell-meets--indie effort

"Oh, did I click on a Destroyer thread by mistake"

self-denial?!

I dunno. I like the rekkids, just not the threads about them.

Oh, did I bookmark a Destroyer thread by mistake?

this one is still innocence though.(not for a lone time prob.)

Beggars might ride, but not for long.

leaky leaky

and?

awesome

not as immediately great as rubies (or at least nothing's hit me straight-on like 'painter in your pocket') but the instrument on this is so fleshed-out and great

yammy!

a pfrk 10 maybe...

i can't tell if ppl will think this is great or if im just falling for it bcuz it's really good and sounds a lot like rubies

well,according to this:
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/destroyer/trouble_in_dreams/

ppl will think it's great.

i think it's great too, it catchs you up on the first listening.

oh shit is that really the cover?

i think at least some of the tracks were recorded live on the studio

hopefully not cuz that looks like it was made on indesign xp

yeah there's one in the middle where you can hear bejar briefly chatting then counting off the band

about the cover, i'm not sure, it might be also this one - a better one for sure:
http://www.catbirdseat.org/catbirdseat/archives/000832.shtml

hypertext record for optional drinking games - out

rubies melodies and the "da da da da..." - still in

spidery guitar lines- still in

wailing piano- still in

so far i think

back half (esp 'introducing angels' and on)>front

almost no surprises,but thats a good think.
(i mean, i'm not one of the "your blues fan)

good thing

totally agree

i went into destroyer starting w/ rubies and didn't like notorious lightning or your blues half as much

so u like the less poppy and more talky part

kind of

i like rambling singing + da da das + awesome guitar peels

not that the first half isn't also great

"this night" is the destroyer record of that formula, i think (destroyer might be trying here to re-create the live atmosphere of that record)

"jenny fell like a ton of bricks"
"WHOOOOOOOSH"
"jenny fell like a ton of bricks"
".......WHOOOOOOOOOOSH"

this is lovely. luscious, like. the tone of the instruments reminds me of In Rainbows but maybe just because ...In Dreams. reminds me of that. the opening song is so great. i'm only half-way through listening, though.

This album is Mellotron central!

Some serious stoner moments in the middle, too...

Does it have that shambling 70s rock feel to it, like Rubies did?

v harry nilsson

That makes it sound v. different from Rubies, which reminded me of 70s Bowie.

dunno 70s bowie, really. definitely it's closest destroyer peers are Destroyer's Rubies and This Night. he seems to have worked pretty hard to make it sound pretty.

the 2nd half is like "rubies" - the song.
the first half is like "your blues" - the song.
the sound is somewhere in like "rubies" with live-vibe.

ok i was way off. having spent more time with it it's not nilsson-like at all, or particularly pretty. in fact, i don't think musically it's that great. jammy in a way that's putting me off right now. lyrics are tops, though, all nonsense and vivacity.

"shooting rockets" and the last song are dramatic, pretty and somewhat depressing.
i think i'll like this record.

"Shooting Rockets" is AWE-SOME

"Libby's First Sunrise" is so good

where the hell are you all hearing this?

nevermind

first response. same wobbly guitar leads, new? use of mellotron strings, not nearly as many girl's names, nowhere near Rubies (except Shooting Rockets)--my ambivalence is sure to turn rapidly to wildly inordinate overpraise upon repeated listens

the biggest difference between "trouble" and "rubies" is that on this one there are less hooks .but still it's great and very enjoyeble.

nothing is hitting me quite like "painter in yr pocket" or "european oils" just yet.

maybe cause there are almost no hooks,and no catch-phrases..

enjoying the 'da-da-duh-duh-da-dee-daa-dada' section of rivers quite a bit

yep. "Rivers" is second best behind "Libby" I think

the lyrics seem more .... straightforward than usual

...if u can understand them

"i've got street despair caught into my heart..."
"i was starving in that shit-house"
"youve been wanderin' around,youve been fuckin' around"
"1993 - it was a good year, it was a very good year..."

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?referrerid=112033&t=6711391

yeah, i've googled this forum too..
aside from body builder,it's a well known fact that Destroyer is also popular among accountants and bridge players

lololol zeno ftw

this is growing at me to be the most disturbing,sometimes depressingly serious and maybe the best Destroyer release yet.
getting closer to Reed's "Berlin" and nick cave, and far away from "hunky dory"

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s1192657.jpg

the sense of depression,surrealism and insanity in this record is rare to find in records, and it strikes with great emotional power.
in short, it's the strongest Destroyer record to date
i really think bejar is in the same league as scott walker, lou reed and nick cave.at their best i mean.

"we live in darkness the light is a dream you see...the light holds a terrible secret.."

After a couple of spins, I don't like it as much as Rubies. It's more bummed out, less ecstatic, less catchy. The song "Shooting Rockets.." is an impressive depressive reverie though - perhaps the one song that best approaches the peaks of Rubies - and there are some pretty, catchy tunes in the first half. The lyrics seem to be struggling a bit on this one.

Yeah, I just relistened to this yesterday and am trying to figure out why I don't like it nearly as much as Rubies, despite the fact that the sound is fairly similar. I think yeah, it's just a little less catchy.

I also think Bejar doesn't really sell it as much this time - he sounds a bit fatigued, less sure of himself, grappling with doubt.

i think it's actually a bit better than "rubies",BECAUSE it's less catchy

I haven't decided where this places in the Destroyer pantheon yet, but it does feature my new favorite Bejar pun: "I was wringing a bell's neck!"

I think that to get away with singing nonsense it's important to sound utterly sure of yourself. Bejar pulled this off beautifully on Rubies. But to listlessly and apologetically sing nonsense wears on the listener's patience.

This has grown on me a bit, esp. "Rivers". I still don't like it as much as Rubies though.

There was an interesting Q&A with Bejar on eMusic recently where he said that he was listening a lot to Dylan's Christian-period albums while making Rubies - I definitely hear that in the singing.

saw him last week on tour for this record, it was one of the best shows I've seen him play

setlist was mostly This Night / Trouble in Dreams with a couple from Rubies .... any set that ends with Hey Snow White I'm gonna be cool with it

they're not playing anything from Streethawk or Thief though :/

i didn't know what time it was at all

yeah, that one always sticks

the Rubies - Trouble in Dreams combo remains my favorite era of Destroyer by far

nah it's cool you go i'll stay
perfectly at home with this dread
dark leaves form a thread