Life Without Buildings

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Sue also recorded a lead vocal track for a Piano Magic tune in 1999. I don't think it was ever released though.

Pharmaceutical Executive, Monday, 8 August 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Man, I still get bummed out thinking about LWB. Any Other City was my first favorite record of the new millennium. I was fortunate enough to help release it in the States. Their break-up was really depressing, even though it was a long time coming. They definitely seemed to be on the verge of something, which made it all the worse. Anyways, yes, this is an excellent record.

Garrett Martin (Garrett Martin), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Revive coz I was just listening to them again and *swoon*. I'm now hearing all sorts of new things in these songs. So sad to remember they broke up.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 8 October 2005 05:01 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Jesus H.

This album is just...the best goddamn thing of the last 10 years. Did I say that already?

THE RIGHT STUFF

Bimble, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 07:30 (sixteen years ago) link

LOOK BACK AND SAY THAT I DIDN'T

Bimble, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 07:32 (sixteen years ago) link

There was a Magnet article in 2001 on the five bands that represent Nu No Wave:

Liars, Ex-Models, Life Without Buildings, Seconds and _______?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 09:02 (sixteen years ago) link

...erase errata, if i remember correctly.

spastic heritage, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Goddammit, for a split-second I thought the thread was revived for a new album. It seems like the only real reason I check ILM these days.

Did anyone get that live album that came out this year?

alex in montreal, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

i did, and it's terrifically fun. and since i can't currently find my copy of "any other city" that's all i have to listen to right now.

they were always my secret band that i sprang on anyone who liked the fall or the pixies or post-punk in general. such a shame. but it's kind of nice in some ways that it is what it is, and we just have the one great album to love.

Emily Bjurnhjam, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

The one new/unreleased song on the live album, "Liberty Feelup," is as wonderful as anything on Any Other City, too.

maciej recognizing trill, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I can't believe how long it took me to notice how much this band takes after Sonic Youth! The guitar playing is a whole lot like how Thurston plays rhythm, just cleaner and low-gain and pretty (e.g., "Young Offenders"); he even likes to throw in ringy harmonics in a Thurstony way; and the vocals are really not unlike something Thurston or Kim might sing, only higher and a rate of about 5x as many more words per minute.

Which isn't weird, since probably most indie guitar stuff could be compared to Sonic Youth in some way or other -- I just can't believe this never even crossed my mind before, and then suddenly I'm listening through the record and it's, like ... the distance between some of these things and a poppy SY track is surprisingly short!

nabisco, Friday, 22 May 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

(Ha, googling around suggest I might just have been slow on this point -- I guess a decent number of reviews at the time identified that template under there)

nabisco, Friday, 22 May 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Huh, I'm not sure that would've crossed my mind, but I like both Life Without Buildings and pop-oriented Sonic Youth enormously, so I wouldn't be surprised if there is indeed a connection.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 22 May 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

What has crossed my mind is how well the music would work without vocals as just a nice breezy post-rock record, like Tristeza or something.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 22 May 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Heartbeat always skitters across a couple of grooves seeing a LWB thread get revived.

Enemy Insects (NickB), Friday, 22 May 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ Such a wonderful track.

Enemy Insects (NickB), Friday, 22 May 2009 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

xxp Which maybe has to do with a tendency to play little melodic riffs and arpeggios as much, if not more so, than outright chords -- which I do think is true of Sonic Youth and also, incidentally, Sleater-Kinney's The Hot Rock.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 22 May 2009 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link

thx for the video link. I'd stopped looking for videos a while ago.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 22 May 2009 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Not a video I'm afraid, just audio :(

Enemy Insects (NickB), Friday, 22 May 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

:(

Johnny Fever, Friday, 22 May 2009 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Also: a friend introduced LWB to me as "the Sugarcubes meets Pavement" for whatever that's worth.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 22 May 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

!

That's bizarre.

When I first heard the album, the combo I made in my mind immediately was Altered Images vs. Sleater-Kinney.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 22 May 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link

my realization was based on watching SY play a thing all morning, then having "Young Offenders" pop up on shuffle on the way home; if you can engineer a similar situation of being SY-sensitized and then hearing that track, it might have the same head-slapping quality

nabisco, Friday, 22 May 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

That Love Trinity track is really good. Haven't heard it before. Can someone up it?

van smack, Saturday, 23 May 2009 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link

gimme 1 sec

jump in the looool (electricsound), Saturday, 23 May 2009 01:26 (fourteen years ago) link

oh thanks

van smack, Saturday, 23 May 2009 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh wow we're turning people on to LWB songs here they haven't heard before! Nice work, ILM!

Sacriligiously Dead (Bimble), Sunday, 24 May 2009 10:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Alas, limit reached. Re up please?

phantompenguin, Sunday, 24 May 2009 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link

What has crossed my mind is how well the music would work without vocals as just a nice breezy post-rock record, like Tristeza or something.

― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 22 May 2009 19:12 (2 days ago)

^^^ this. it's the vocals that really push the songs over the edge. case in point: http://www.imeem.com/people/wgMI9AD/music/0B6wbnjb/life-without-buildings-daylighting/

a somnambulist in an ambulance (r1o natsume), Sunday, 24 May 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

don't know if this has been mentioned already but seeing as we're talking about soundalikes, thomas tantrum sound very very much like LWB:

NI, Sunday, 24 May 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

i mentioned that somewhere, and i agree, sadly their album was v disappointing

jump in the looool (electricsound), Sunday, 24 May 2009 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Other-City-Life-Without-Buildings/dp/B00005AKO2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1243287289&sr=8-1

This is insane, the LWB studio album listed at £83.52 - 2 copies, one of the sellers admitting that the digipak is pretty worn. My first copy was £2, and was given to a friend when I found another copy recently in better condition for a whole 10p. Spotted "Is Is & the IRS" cd single for 1p on Amazon, so have broken my self imposed "no CD purchases in May" rule to get it.

Does anyone have an MP3 of "Daylighting" they'd be willing to provide me with? Or know where I can get a legit download of it, I don't fancy paying the £66 someone wants for a copy of "Young Offenders" to complete the collection.

MichaelJLambert, Monday, 25 May 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

i have it, i'll dig it out when i get home tonight

jump in the looool (electricsound), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link

i will also search for their prince cover too, i have the cd somewhere

jump in the looool (electricsound), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Just buy it from Amazon US and not UK, it is only 10.50 on there.

svend, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link

BTW Daylighting is a bonus track on the US pressing.

svend, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Daylighting: http://rapidshare.com/files/237239605/11_Daylighting.mp3.html

phantompenguin, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 00:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks very much for that! One day I hope to find a copy of the "Love Trinity" CD single for a reasonable price.

MichaelJLambert, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 00:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Just buy it from Amazon US and not UK, it is only 10.50 on there.

― svend, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 01:10 (17 minutes ago) Bookmark

Thanks, but I've already got the UK pressing of the 'Any Other City', was just surprised that someone thought they'd get anywhere listing at that price - I know it's the EIL approach, hope someone's desperate enough. Someone on Amazon UK was after £66 for the "Young Offenders" CD single, which is "only" $19 on Amazon US.

MichaelJLambert, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 00:31 (fourteen years ago) link

And I'm also a muppet - 10.50 for US pressing which includes "Daylighting" rather than $19 or £66 for the single. Duh.

MichaelJLambert, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Plus the US one is in a jewel case, I have both as well and the LP :).

svend, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link

At least it's a small discography to be trying to hoover up!

MichaelJLambert, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 00:37 (fourteen years ago) link

i was going to suggest getting in contact with trifekta as they may still have stock but they seem to have fallen off the face of the earth

jump in the looool (electricsound), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link

The Trifekta website has disappeared but found a myspace, will give them a shout.

I also found that listing on chaos.com, but the 14-20 day wait for dispatch wasn't promising - that would imply they don't have it in stock and would be ordering it in themselves. May as well try and cut out the middleman.

MichaelJLambert, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 11:58 (fourteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

back in the day their website had a free download of a live acoustic take of the leanover that was really good. i last had it in like 2006 - does anyone have that now? i can't find it anywhere!

phantompenguin, Monday, 22 February 2010 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link

interesting - a recently conducted "follow up" interview with the drummer and guitarist of lwb: http://musosguide.com/life-without-buildings-the-catch-up-interview/8990

phantompenguin, Monday, 22 February 2010 03:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I would love to know if anyone had a .rar of "Love Trinity." The single, not the live one since thats easier to come by.

Evan, Monday, 22 February 2010 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, i have it. are you looking specifically for the song, or the whole single, which features two other songs?

phantompenguin, Monday, 22 February 2010 05:21 (fourteen years ago) link

my god that live Juno is beautiful

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 13 December 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link

also hayley tompkins

https://www.themoderninstitute.com/artists/hayley-tompkins

stirmonster, Monday, 13 December 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link

okay this killed me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKkpuLYlcF4

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 13 December 2021 22:10 (two years ago) link

so i searched and these were also on youtube...

I was at this

Qamon (||||||||), Monday, 13 December 2021 22:26 (two years ago) link

|||||||| !!!!!!!!

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 13 December 2021 22:28 (two years ago) link

I was at the Transmission Gallery one.

stirmonster, Monday, 13 December 2021 23:02 (two years ago) link

thanks so much for the new links

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 12:29 (two years ago) link

bagsie first dibs on stirmonster's memories if the component parts of his brain ever come up for auction.

btw optimo is given the love in that Robert Dallas Gray interview i linked to above :)

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 19:14 (two years ago) link

i just read that! robert and his friends were the very first regulars the club had and came almost religiously for the first year or so when not so many people attended. i'm not sure why LWB never performed there. memory is an interesting thing as i am 99.9% sure that television song he recalls hearing wasn't ever played.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 20:01 (two years ago) link

Nick's Youtube link got me curious and it looks like Sue has done a number of solo/guest vocals:
- "Country Grammer", a 2004 solo track
- "Raid" / "Turnover", a 2015 solo 7"
- "Do It Puritan!" with El Hombre Trajeado in 2016
- "Special Long Version (Demo)" with Russell Haswell in 2018
- 5 tracks with TSX on recur³ followed by 4 tracks with TSX on recur² in 2019/2020

Given her slow build-up of work the last 5 years, I wonder if she's planning a proper solo or new band LP.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 20:43 (two years ago) link

time for a comeback to show these Wet Dry Leg Cleaning posers how real random talk songs should be performed

akm, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link

Tompkins and Haswell have performed as a duo a few times now. I once saw them browsing DVDs in the Fopp on Union Street in Glasgow.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 22:18 (two years ago) link

I saw LWB in London one time, with Piano Magic I think. In Highbury, just near the Garage, can't remember the venue name. No trace of it online. Maybe I dreamed it?

Position Position, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 02:19 (two years ago) link

I saw the same bill but it was in Camden in a basement. Right after Artists Rifles

akm, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 02:40 (two years ago) link

yep, they played in brighton with piano magic too, round about the time of 'low birth weight' but i didn't go for some idiotic reason, genius that i am

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 06:05 (two years ago) link

I think Michael Jones of this parish and I saw the mystery Highbury venue Piano Magic support slot too - iirc it felt like a theatre space? A few actor friends of mine were there and seemed to be friends with Sue, which made me think they were some kind of improv/performance art thing, which slightly put me off. Saw them again a few months later, on some random NME bill with a friend's band at the LA2 and they completely won me over - so much so that by the time they played the Spitz a few months after that, they were pretty much my favourite band. And they split up :(

Piedie Gimbel, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 07:27 (two years ago) link

I've doubtless mentioned this numerous times in this thread, but I saw them support The Strokes at the latter's debut headline show at the Barfly, and the Strokes were amazing - much better than I ever saw them again - but there was an unlikely magic to LWB that was sublime, and it felt like the indie scene was swapping this weird sublime music for stuff aimed squarely at the cash register. I guess it was similar to when Britpop began to coalesce and flex its commercial muscle.

Enjoy the brighter sounds of Analog on CD (stevie), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 10:27 (two years ago) link

final post i swear: sue did a track with el hombre trajeado in 2016!! how the heck did i not know this?

boops!

dark end of the st. maud (sic), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:01 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

guess there's a repress of 'any other city' in the works...

hmm how interesting. wonder who else is in this series https://t.co/A9ctd3KxCD

— Robert Dallas Gray (@rdg_music) July 26, 2023

NickB, Thursday, 27 July 2023 16:08 (eight months ago) link

Only 500 of that first one? Maybe there'll be nice liners.

The previous represses look to be still around... e.g., Rough Trade website

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 27 July 2023 16:11 (eight months ago) link

kinda of hoping for some added extras tbh, 'love trinity' on vinyl would be an absolute dream

NickB, Thursday, 27 July 2023 16:15 (eight months ago) link

btw if you're into solo guitar stuff, you might be interested in rdg's forthcoming solo album. sounding very lovely to me...

https://robertdallasgray.bandcamp.com/track/stolen-moments

NickB, Thursday, 27 July 2023 16:16 (eight months ago) link

Yeah, I'm happy with my WYR pressing from 2014, but I might replace it if a new one comes with the Love Trinity tracks.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 27 July 2023 21:18 (eight months ago) link

I did the artwork for the WYR pressing. Meaning I put the existing artwork in a new templates, shuffled around a few logos and dates etc. Was an honor.

dan selzer, Thursday, 27 July 2023 22:12 (eight months ago) link

I would be happy if it was the live album on vinyl.

kitchen person, Friday, 28 July 2023 00:26 (eight months ago) link

three weeks pass...

I guess something is happening today

Huge news coming this afternoon.
Sign up to our mailout for first dibs

Head here: https://t.co/KD1VvQUxOD pic.twitter.com/c8gmSVL2c0

— monorail music (@Monorail_Music) August 21, 2023

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Monday, 21 August 2023 13:11 (seven months ago) link

nice thanks. i'd probably down with international shipping just for a lyric sheet lol

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 August 2023 13:29 (seven months ago) link

So it's a slightly deluxe version of the regular tracklist of the album.

LIFE WITHOUT BUILDINGS: Any Other City
The Glasgow School 02

Monorail Edition: 250 on colour vinyl Handstamped+numbered folder with Sue Tompkins Lyric book, flyers, final gig ticket + 2 badgeshttps://t.co/F5f5NxMkn6

The most special of groups,
So much love for this LP pic.twitter.com/s4tqSPUqCT

— monorail music (@Monorail_Music) August 21, 2023

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Monday, 21 August 2023 16:16 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

one for the guit nerds:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyGpOt0Kb3T/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

blazin' squab (NickB), Saturday, 7 October 2023 21:30 (six months ago) link

In EADGAE btw

blazin' squab (NickB), Saturday, 7 October 2023 21:32 (six months ago) link

awesome. always wondered what tuning he used, so simple once you know

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 7 October 2023 21:59 (six months ago) link

Good to see albums being reissued 'From Glasgow' not from complete and utter cunts

PaulTMA, Saturday, 7 October 2023 22:10 (six months ago) link

gorgeous, ty for posting

call all destroyer, Saturday, 7 October 2023 22:11 (six months ago) link


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