Husker Du : Classic or Dud, Search and Destroy.

if you people really hate the band's production, pick up the live lp "the living end" - makes the "warehouse" stuff much less tame and actually sounds *good* (gosh...)

Then all through the nineties I never listened to any of their records. A couple of months ago, I decided to put on New Day Rising. And I was left feeling ... well, nothing. If anything, it sounded like the Mother of All Emo Records, which would of course be a bad thing.

Funny how a decade can change one's perceptions so greatly.

Anyway, I heard "Don't Want to Know If You Are Lonely" on the radio today for the first time in a long time and it sounded like the Foo Fighters! (Except for the fact that it was much more well written, of course!)

I also really like reading Julio's early posts.

Woah. That is almost exactly the list I'd post, 'cept I'd add in "Books About UFOs" 'cuz it's sweet.

I don't like Zen Arcade that much as an album. I love some of the tracks on it, but I'd be way more likely to listen to New Day Rising all the way through.

Fucking classic, even now. The only album that's not up to scratch is Candy Apple Grey.

"Brick on your head, 'cause you're a fuckhead" to the naysayers.

It occurs to me now Warehouse is the one, that was the name of only album of Husker Du I had. It was about 60% enjoyable as I recall.

The singles were always good, don't get me wrong...Eight Miles High was great too. I heard their version of that before anyone else's, actually. I don't feel cheated by that at all.

That was the Hated's theory, anyway...

Incidentally, listening to DNA and sirone late last year made me realize how the bass could work and what a blind spot that was for me even though those aren't exactly rock. I haven't heard 'zen arcade' in ages so i should revisit this.

(thanks sundar, that must've been one of my v first posts on ilm though for better or worse I could never use a word like 'quality' or 'integrity' again nor 'influence' or 'emotion' without explaining it)

(Did I just say that?)

Also, Greg Norton, being the most underrated member of the band, is such a great bassist. I walk around most days with a loop of "Statues" running on repeat in my brain.

Any coincidence that this thread has been revived just after that special sometime in April when we add another hour?

Sugar's Copper Blue is better than the last Husker records, though, whoever said that was OTM.

Search: side one of New Day Rising, played in the sequence it was released

Destroy: "Reoccurring dreams", "The Baby Song", about half of Warehouse: Songs & Stories.

So here's a question that I've had for twenty years:

Why is it that on the inside of Zen Arcade it says "All songs written by whoever sings it except for "Someday" that Grant wrote"?

Didn't Grant also sing it, so it would still fall under "song written by singer" rule?

Ah, I see it's the only song with lyrics on the album that has two songwriters. Still, Grant Hart sang a song that he wrote.

ahem, Bob Mould was a writer for WCW, not WWF.

and, classic - new day rising (the song). fucking great.

Classic. Nothing beats the first side/half of New Day Rising.

Classic. Those SST records are timeless

They could at least have given Greg one of these weird credits like "Yoko: Wind" to beef up his instruments line.

Oops, wrong thread.

(a couple other versions do have a single US shipper)

this is my favorite version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZToHDEw6fI8

I just got that myself, on the CD single that used it as a B-side!

I like Warehouse a lot, but something about the mix or mastering sounds very weird coming through computer speakers, as if certain frequencies have been misplaced and the stereo balance is off-kilter.

I like _Warehouse_ a lot, but something about the mix or mastering sounds very weird coming through computer speakers, as if certain frequencies have been misplaced and the stereo balance is off-kilter.

listening through computer speakers might be the problem. The OG vinyl sounds fine. As do their other LPs, unlike the SST CDs which most have a real problem with.

Candy Apple Grey CD is the closest you can get to blowing speakers out with that opening track, lol

https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/15817

Event: RECORD STORE DAY 2023
Release Date: 4/22/2023
Format: 2 x LP
Label: Reflex Records
Quantity: 5000
Release type: 'RSD First' Release
MORE INFO

A 2xLP set of rare, early Hüsker Dü live recordings, featuring original flyers and artwork. Drawn from the historical Hüsker Dü recording archives compiled by Terry Katzman, this double disc live set is an essential companion piece to the band's Savage Young Du Box Set. While the SYD release principally featured studio demos, the 28 tracks presented here are the aural and enchanting equivalent of a time machine that vividly thrusts the listener straight back to Husker Du's embryonic unsheathing on stage.

Side A dates to July 1979. Side B gives us a full year's evolution to July 1980, while Sides C and D land the listener in September 1980. Perhaps 120 people in total saw these three Longhorn performances. Until now, a handful at most have heard the playbacks. So, rare and fresh, it's all here: the songs, the driven performances, the small club intimacy of being in front of select friends, fans, and peers, with one fair shot at getting it right. These four sides compellingly document that you can't doubt that they did.

Side A - July 6. 1979 20:56

1 Insects Rule The World (Hart) (BMG Bumblebee BMI)
2 I’m Not Interested (Hart) (BMG Bumblebee BMI)
3 Sex Dolls (Hart) (BMG Bumblebee BMI)
4 Can’t See You Anymore (Mould) (Granary Music BMI)
5 Sexual Economics (Mould) (Granary Music BMI)
6 Do You Remember? (Mould) (Granary Music BMI)
7 Nuclear Nightmare (Hart/Mould/Norton) (BMG Bumblebee BMI) (Granary Music BMI) (Husker Music BMI)

Side B - July 16 1980 Tiger Night 22:17

1 All Tensed Up (Mould) (Granary Music BMI)
2 Strange Week (Hart) (BMG Bumblebee BMI)
3 Don’t Try To Call (Mould) (Granary Music BMI)
4 Industrial Grocery Store (Mould) (Granary Music BMI)
5 Do The Bee (Hart) (BMG Bumblebee BMI)
6 Do You Remember? (Mould) (Granary Music BMI)
7 Ode To Bode (Norton) (Husker Music BMI)
8 Don’t Have A Life (Norton) (Husker Music BMI)

Side C - Sept 25 1980 Homerock 20:40

1 All I’ve Got To Lose (Mould) (Granary Music BMI)
2 Don’t Try It (Mould) (Granary Music BMI)
3 Writer’s Cramp (Mould) (Granary Music BMI)
4 Gilligan’s Island (Hart) (BMG Bumblebee BMI)
5 What Went Wrong? (Mould) (Granary Music BMI)
6 Uncle Ron (Norton) (Husker Music BMI)
7 MTC (Norton) (Husker Music BMI)
8 Drug Party (Hart) (BMG Bumblebee BMI)

Side D - Sept 25, 1980 Homerock 22:15

1 Chinese Rock (Meyers, Colvin) (Dilapidated Music DoraFlo Music, Quick Fix Music BMI)
2 Termination (Norton) (Husker Music BMI)
3 Call On Me (Mould) (Granary Music BMI)
4 Gravity (Mould) (Granary Music BMI)
5 Statues (Hart) (BMG Bumblebee BMI)

Shit I had not heard of this before

Does "RSD First" release mean it'll be coming out as a non-limited non-RSD thing later?

I hope so ^

I read somewhere there’s a digital release scheduled for autumn; I don’t know for sure about physical.

These days (and this will always change) my favourite Hart is "She's a Woman (and now he is a Man)". So good.

so good!

oh, that RSD release is out on CD apparently: https://www.discogs.com/release/26835887-H%C3%BCsker-D%C3%BC-Tonite-Longhorn

Perhaps 120 people in total saw these three Longhorn performances.

I was likely one of them. "Tiger Night" (side B) was the name of the Wednesday new band night at The Longhorn. No cover, and there was usually free tap beer for an hour from 8-9 pm to get people down there. I went almost every week in 1980.

oh, that RSD release is out on CD apparently: https://www.discogs.com/release/26835887-H%C3%BCsker-D%C3%BC-Tonite-Longhorn🕸

_Perhaps 120 people in total saw these three Longhorn performances._


I was likely one of them. "Tiger Night" (side B) was the name of the Wednesday new band night at The Longhorn. No cover, and there was usually free tap beer for an hour from 8-9 pm to get people down there. I went almost every week in 1980.

http://www.thirdav.com/hd_posters/p19800702.gif

Awesome

25 cent Special Exports. It's a wonder I'm still alive.

Green cans

Bottles! I often picked up a 6-pack on the way to the show and I'd sneak 'em in after the 25 cent special was over.

Green Death

wow THE DADS really got around

sorry The DADS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hb4r1bCpJw

Thanks so much Dan!

I love talking about this era. What I remember of it anyway...

First: It's been eons since I listened to "New Day Rising," just because there's too much music and too few hours. While I never got to see Husker Du live (though got to see Hart and have seen Mould a bunch), weirdly enough I don't regret it, since the advantage of Spot's production is that I feel it captures the energy and aaaargh of group live, at least based on the bootlegs I've heard. This is kinda true about a lot of SST stuff, too. The Minutemen, for example, I feel most of their albums do a pretty good job offering a snapshot of what the group must have been like live, based on what I've heard.

Second: My memory was primed for "Books About UFOs," but I somehow totally forgot about "Terms of Psychic Warfare." What a great tune. Why don't people cover Husker Du?

When I first heard "Terms of Psychic Warfare," I honestly thought it could've come from the mid-'90s, and that it would've been a massive hit that sounded great on the radio ten years after it was actually released.

I saw them on the New Day Rising tour after hearing the album (plus Zen Arcade) and my recollection is that they were somewhat louder and more saturated-sounding than expected. It was a fairly small room though.

https://i.imgur.com/MxLfp4j.jpg

"Nord-strom riii-sing ... "