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So the first album is to Kids what the new album is to Gummo?

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:09 (twenty years ago) link

I can't fucking believe someone out there reviews albums with a writing style like an 1880's abolitionist. I mean, where in there did he mention whether it was good or bad? He just said to listen to it.

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:51 (twenty years ago) link

T. Herman Zweibel to thread!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:52 (twenty years ago) link

I mean, where in there did he mention whether it was good or bad? He just said to listen to it.

what a concept.

tk, Friday, 27 February 2004 00:21 (twenty years ago) link

Dudes either been reading BLAST by Wyndham Lewis or writing ad copy for the record store he works at too long.

Jo Jo Dancer, Friday, 27 February 2004 00:30 (twenty years ago) link

that review is awesome!

russ, Friday, 27 February 2004 00:33 (twenty years ago) link

Abolitionism is totally the new cocaine.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 27 February 2004 00:53 (twenty years ago) link

You can snort William Garrison up your nose, but please, use a spoon.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 February 2004 00:55 (twenty years ago) link

hi philip sherburne

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 February 2004 04:19 (twenty years ago) link

i couldn't be more psyched at these responses:::I wrote that review up there. peace to the 'thesaurus' guy, truly hysterical, and i wish i could turn it off sometimes but it ain't on my microsoft word. i really just agree with turnbull even further up (except didn't get into the first album) though this has all been much more fun, oh and sincere thanks to russ. you guys have no idea how much more head-on this has been than the wheedling responses to our actual site

duke jupiter, Friday, 27 February 2004 07:49 (twenty years ago) link

I Bought it today & I Absolutely Love It!!!!
It's my #1 of the year so far.

Dude (The Yellow Dart), Sunday, 29 February 2004 07:07 (twenty years ago) link

gummo is way better then the new liars album.

twelve, Sunday, 29 February 2004 07:25 (twenty years ago) link

Not much beats cinema involving rednecks decimating a cheap fold out chair, granted.

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 29 February 2004 07:31 (twenty years ago) link

I really don't understand why people keep on bringing up that this album is so different than the first album. I don't know, hearing the first album and seeing them live could easily predict for me this second album, which I found boring, but not because its 'experimental' or otherwise.

T. Weiss (Timmy), Sunday, 29 February 2004 20:56 (twenty years ago) link

five years pass...

New Liars concept album based on "humans trying to survive in LA" due next year.

Sisterworld to be released on Mute in 2010

Doran, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

excited! though the producer they are working with officially Worries Me.

my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

What's wrong with Tom Biller? (Never heard of him, BTW; I'm just curious).

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i dunno...just looking at his credits...he's done stuff with Jon Brion, Beck, Kanye West, Rhett Miller, Evan Dando, Elliot Smith, Silversun Pickups, Where the Wild Things Are soundtrack

basically just strikes me as some pro nu-indie boring type slick producer i guess....

my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I can see where you might be coming from Matt, but the one thing I've learned being a Liars stan - don't go into any new album with preconceptions AT ALL.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah they are def an awesome band and have not let me down but that dudes credentials is like super boring NPR type rock to me....

i basically just hate the way "professional" rock records sound now, so i'm worried about it on just a basic engineering, mix, compression angle

my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I just feel like these guys are pretty involved in how their records sound. It seems like they have been up to this point anyway. I can't see them just sitting back like all, whatever. Then again, fuck, maybe that's part of the "concept" - a super-smooth record to fit the L.A. thing. Hard to tell with these guys.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i mean it's no dealbreaker, i always think they are interesting and this sounds even more interesting with the whole half-baked concept album steez....i am officially going to buy this sound unseen.

my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link

it better be a soundtrack for this

http://www.imfdb.org/images/c/c8/EscapeLA.jpg

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

That would be amazing.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

sounds v. william gibson in conception

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Thom Yorke, Bradford Cox, Suicide and Melvins on Liars Sisterworld disc two

Doran, Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

appears to have leaked, it's on sordo

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

urgh file seems fucked, nevermind

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

basically just strikes me as some pro nu-indie boring type slick producer i guess

what did you think of the last record? that was more of a slick modern alt-rock record than this one imo

dmr, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

"humans trying to survive in LA" makes it sound way more sci-fi than it is

coping strategy = hanging out at The Smell, not hoarding gas and going all Mad Max

dmr, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

basically just strikes me as some pro nu-indie boring type slick producer i guess

what did you think of the last record? that was more of a slick modern alt-rock record than this one imo

― dmr, Thursday, January 7, 2010 9:14 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wasn't super down with that record really..was "okay" but i guess i'm more of a they were wrong so we drowned type liars person....actually all the first three are good in their own ways

jealous ones sb (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess i'm more of a they were wrong so we drowned type liars person

yeah me too. new one's not as good as that but I like it better than the S/T one. (that had some good songs though, "Clear Island" is badass. some of it sounded like Beck though .... nothing like that on the new one really)

dmr, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

The Scarecrow "Why d'you pass the bum on the street?" track is one of the best things they've ever done.

I played it on New Year's Eve. Everyone was gobsmacked. (Admittedly some of them started booing but everyone else was going bananas.)

Doran, Thursday, 7 January 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

The Scarecrow "Why d'you pass the bum on the street?" track is one of the best things they've ever done.

yeah totally! that one came on when I was on the subway on the way home from work tonight and I was rockin out, kind of has that Drowned vibe (even the title ... "Scarecrows on a Killer Slant") but with bigger guitars

dmr, Friday, 8 January 2010 03:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i loved the s/t and i think "they were wrong" is probably my last favorite thing they've done (though it still has some jams on it). finally listening to sisterworld.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Thought the last one was a tiny disappointment after Drums, but have heard good things about the newie. Also still one of the most intense live bands around.

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link

"Scarecrows on a Killer Slant" is AWESOME, and sounds great turned waaaaay up. Can't wait to hear a high quality version.

CATBEAST!! (Z S), Thursday, 21 January 2010 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link

lol american movie

conrad, Thursday, 21 January 2010 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04domJ7F0oY

the descent of mayne (am0n), Thursday, 25 February 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

the end is LOL

the descent of mayne (am0n), Thursday, 25 February 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

"The Overachievers" is my new jam off this record

we drove the biocar
cuz we all loved the earth
it didn't get us far
and always sounded like a walllrussss
with ullllcerrrss

dmr, Thursday, 25 February 2010 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link

^^yesssssss

wilter, Friday, 26 February 2010 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Love the album, but big WTF on the standard edition packaging? I guess they really wanted people to shell out for the deluxe. For those that haven't seen it, the disc comes in one of those cardboard sleeves that labels used to send promos in. I'm all for not having another jewel box taking up space on my shelves, but this packaging just seems way lazy.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

dude, i'll second that one. seriously thought about stealing this off the internet (which i almost never do) because the standard packaging is so half-assed. paying close to $20 for the deluxe edition wasn't really an option either as i like to keep any whiffs of thom yorke and tv on the radio out of the house.

anyhow, got it cheaply enough and glad i did. it's some pretty primo liars.

Robert Necrofrost, Friday, 19 March 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

oh man, i'm with you jon on the packaging. digipaks, fine. but this is almost some "if we could, we'd just hand you a loose CD" kind of shit. yeah, the cardboard sleeve is cheaper and better for the environment, but it's not that sturdy, and it almost feels like what i imagine it'd feel like to buy a hardcover that used tissue paper as a dust cover instead of actual paper.

ksh, Friday, 19 March 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess if it were an environmental thing the deluxe version would come in two cardboard cases? i wonder what the reasoning behind this was.

ksh, Friday, 19 March 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I ended up forking over for the deluxe package as Liars are one of the few acts I throw in with as a matter of course. Even though the last album sucked.

The new one just keeps getting better, and the bonus disc might be the first collection of remixes I've ever heard that actually coheres and sort of enhances the effect of listening to the original. The only thing I skip on it is the TV on the Radio dude w/ predictable a capella misfire, zeroing in on "dumb" lyrics and coming off just dumb.

I dunno if it tops Drum's Not Dead yet but this is really fucking good.

Hadrian VIII, Friday, 19 March 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

i wonder what the reasoning behind this was.

possibly budget? there's not a lot of $$$s in doing what liars do, wonderful though it is.

Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Friday, 19 March 2010 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link

how good is this btw? being poor as poor but trying not to steal i have limited myself to 1 album purchase per month- next month its the gil scott heron and after that it is this v. the four tet album (v. anything else great that might come out between now and then v. is that knife opera thing out yet?)

he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 19 March 2010 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, the knife record came out

ksh, Friday, 19 March 2010 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

daaaamn i want to listen to this but no time for like the next three days

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 02:58 (ten years ago) link

i'm interviewing aaron tomorrow. looking forward to it.

mary-kate and ashley's roachclip (get bent), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 05:17 (ten years ago) link

i try not to listen to streams but couldn't resist. this is really good, and a nice progression from WIXIW (which I ended up loving).

dronestreet, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 14:45 (ten years ago) link

this might be their weirdest album in years, which is good

have a nice blood (mh), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 14:59 (ten years ago) link

i don't know if i'd throw "weirdest album" around, but this is really good -- evolution of the sounds & atmospheres first mined on WIXIW, but with a much heavier club influence. i feel like this is their true electro album...and can't wait to see what their next left-turn is, stylistically.

worked at the record store this weekend, and sold the first one to a kid who said, "this sounds like marilyn manson."

...i have not let that that ruin the record for me.

dronestreet, Monday, 24 March 2014 13:51 (ten years ago) link

weirder than the self-titled and Wixiw, maybe? That's all I meant.

have a nice blood (mh), Monday, 24 March 2014 13:53 (ten years ago) link

weird is one of my highest words of praise

have a nice blood (mh), Monday, 24 March 2014 13:54 (ten years ago) link

i'll go for that :)
must've skipped over the "recent"
definitely a big tonal shift towards ambient/soundscape/drone stuff over the last third of the record

dronestreet, Monday, 24 March 2014 13:56 (ten years ago) link

i like 'boyzone' as a song title

nathey, Monday, 24 March 2014 14:05 (ten years ago) link

This isn't very good. It's probably the least memorable of all their albums. Still it gets a free pass from all the places you'd expect (Quietus, Fact, etc).

Position Position, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 12:01 (ten years ago) link

I'm not much of a depeche mode fan or of the other such programmed beat oriented groups they are imitating or mocking here, so I wonder if I should even bother (I have liked some of what they did earlier in their time together)

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link

I've only listened to it a couple of times so far but I think this is great. I LOVE Mess On A Mission; most exciting single / song / track / whatever I've heard so far this year. They seem to have followed the course they set with Brats on WIXIW, which I'm delighted with because I loved that track.

i reject your shiny expensive consumerist stereo system (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 27 March 2014 11:34 (ten years ago) link

having trouble parsing curmudgeon's post but that Mute Audio Documents comp is kind of fun and seeing Liars on Mute in that scope is kind of fun

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 14:36 (ten years ago) link

I was referencing this from the NPR writeup:

the new album embraces the type of electro-pop that underpins the catalog of the band's parent label, Mute. Throughout the early 1980s, Mute Records built its brand on the likes of Depeche Mode, Erasure and Yaz. On songs like "Vox Turned D.E.D." and "Can't Hear Well," Andrew uses his baritone to mimic the icy intonations of these hallmark acts, the gothic synth chord changes of Hemphill and Gross following suit. "I'm No Gold" even finds Liars doing Adult.-esque electro.
Some of the Europop moves on Mess are so spot-on that one gets the feeling that Liars are taking the piss.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:14 (ten years ago) link

yeah, depeche mode of that era != depeche mode of any era since

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link

Two albums of quite a similar aesthetic in a row is a long pisstake.

i reject your shiny expensive consumerist stereo system (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link

But not beyond them.

i reject your shiny expensive consumerist stereo system (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I would say this is a palette of sounds they like, not any sort of pisstake.

I mean, unless They Were Wrong, So We Drowned was supposed to be one, too

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link

ten months pass...

Belatedly listening to this. It actually reminds me a bit of Shy Child, which is not something I ever thought I would say of a Liars album.

Tim F, Thursday, 19 February 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link

seven months pass...

I'm sure it's from a similar synth patch, but I heard "Mask Maker" in Chipotle today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgtISVfW2TE

and over the din it was very reminiscent of Hysterix "Talk to Me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNSrrXjJ71Y

Spencer Chow, Sunday, 27 September 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

i completely forgot about these guys. i loved They Were Dead... and Drums Not Dead but they lost me with the s/t. listening to both of those records now for the first time in years and they're still so beautiful...

flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 22:22 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

So this band is now a solo project, Angus is the only member. Does anyone else find this odd? From the second LP on they were a solid trio. This news has kind of been buried in the press release/new album hype as well.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Saturday, 1 July 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link

Someone I know was very, very bummed about the news the other day. It was the first I'd heard of it.

flappy bird, Sunday, 2 July 2017 03:37 (six years ago) link

also what the fuck is this album called? I can't read that shit

flappy bird, Sunday, 2 July 2017 03:37 (six years ago) link

It's TFCF which I believe stands for Theme From Crying Fountain. Pretty disappointed to see Aaron and Julian go, too - they were such a weird magical unit, especially around the DND period.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Sunday, 2 July 2017 03:41 (six years ago) link

definitely one of the weirdest career/sonic arcs in indiedom

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 2 July 2017 05:25 (six years ago) link

is that dickbutt on the cake or what

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 00:58 (six years ago) link

shit, I saw that there was new material coming but missed the fact the band's mostly disbanded :(

mh, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link

bummer

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Wow. New record is out today and it's really, really good. Moody and groovy. It probably only compares to Liars (can't think of what it reminds me of, maybe Microphones' Mt. Eerie at times?) but this is pretty compelling.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 25 August 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

It's growing on me. My first thought was "Yeah, this is what Liars sounds like when it's pared down to just one guy"

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:42 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

I'm really getting a lot out of this album still. And I love the shrieking cockatoos on the tracks, it's a sound we take for granted here but man is it frightening.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 8 February 2019 04:24 (five years ago) link


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