Dead C 'the damned'

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i think i like "the wisher table" more than "the damned" at this point. i've listened to "the monolake" alot more than "harsh 70s reality."

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 7 February 2004 08:58 (twenty years ago) link

''Michael obviously smoked too much pot when he was mastering the CD''

so you're saying its terrible or what exactly?

I love handful of dust as well: got that comp on crank automotives label.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 7 February 2004 11:37 (twenty years ago) link

No its not terrible. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and saying he accidentally put a recording that wasn't the Dead C on it.

xxxxxxx, Saturday, 7 February 2004 11:46 (twenty years ago) link

but yeats and russell would have said something?

and why didn't the other two get any credit on the 'one or two tracks' they played in?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 7 February 2004 11:50 (twenty years ago) link

1. Yeats was drunk. Russell was very busy and in a different city. Both had no reason to mistrust Morley.

2. A question a lot of people are trying to find the answer to. I suspect he never even noticed what he was doing.

xxxxxx, Saturday, 7 February 2004 11:57 (twenty years ago) link

haha well if the dead C breaks up after this you could be right. Don't know abt you but if this is correct it somehow makes me love the record even more.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 7 February 2004 12:00 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, it's like that chocolate watch band album that was about half written and performed by studio musicians without the band's knowledge.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 7 February 2004 12:38 (twenty years ago) link

I'm keen to hear this record. The Dead C. totally ruled my world when I was about 16, when their music seemed genuinely "other" and exciting, and I didn't even get stoned in those days! But everything since Repent that I've heard seems pretty hard going and certainly sounds a lot better after a bowl or three. That's not a complaint, really, but I'm hoping for at least some of the bastard songs of old, like 'Power' or 'Sky'.

radio morocco, Saturday, 7 February 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago) link

five years pass...

new record, secret earth, is good. way better than Future Artists, at least.

Lowell N. Behold'n, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 00:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I feel exactly the opposite. Future Artists was awesome, new feels like a bit of a letdown.

Stylez G. White (Stormy Davis), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 01:15 (fifteen years ago) link

well, I thought Future Artists felt aimless and it lacked any good atmosphere, and vocals. Although I only got through it a couple times, and haven't heard it for a while. The new one has some pretty nice moments to it, and there's a muted rawness to the whole thing. The first and last tracks are nicely affecting.

Lowell N. Behold'n, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 04:58 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i'm w/ lowell - SECRET EARTH is their best rec since TUSK - much as i admire all the experiments w/ textures and whatnot on FUTURE ARTISTS, i like dead c best when they're still edging round songform - and it's great to have an alb where morley is singing on every track

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 08:57 (fifteen years ago) link

future artists certainly has the better cover art....

i like secret earth. a lot. i might like it even more since seeing them play practically the whole LP a few months back. dead c live = heaven on earth.

ian, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

i side with stormy on this.

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Hey there's a new Gate record (Republic of Sadness) and it sounds like early IDM or something. I've only heard samples though.

Pants Perdu (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 2 August 2010 03:36 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I totally need to get this ... of course, Morley's stuff on the Language CDs occasionally sounded like that..

Stormy Davis, Monday, 2 August 2010 04:22 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

New Dead C- Patience- is really great. No vocals, which is a plus for me. It's hard to enter the maelstrom when some dude is moaning and shit. Nah just kidding, I dig some of the vocals. I prefer this though. Anyway, ya'll heard it yet?

SourPatchCorpse, Monday, 11 October 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Listened to the clip on the dusted review (Shaft) and I like it.

Trip Maker, Monday, 11 October 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

Coming to rainy fascist island fellas.

https://www.cafeoto.co.uk/events/the-dead-c-three-day-residency/

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 11:30 (one year ago) link

See you there xyzzzz

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 11:31 (one year ago) link

👍👍👍

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 11:54 (one year ago) link

oh man, r montgomery too! last time i saw them they were totally bringing the rock in a tiny little hall. unfortunately no footage of morley playing the curtain rail.

no lime tangier, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 14:03 (one year ago) link

Played Secret Earth and Unknowns to celebrate and I didn't know Morley started singing again!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link

They seem to alternate between singing and non-singing recs these days

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

All three nights at Cafe Oto now SOLD OUT - hope you got yr tix, xyzzzz

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Ah missed this.

Yup got 'em for today and Wednesday. The day is here!!!

xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 June 2023 08:17 (ten months ago) link

well jell

massaman gai (front tea for two), Monday, 19 June 2023 08:34 (ten months ago) link

Hope to see you there xyzzz

Oto are live streaming the Wednesday show for a fiver btw

Ward Fowler, Monday, 19 June 2023 08:45 (ten months ago) link

Yes will be on the lookout Ward.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 June 2023 10:04 (ten months ago) link

Great to see Xyzee, and Keenan and Leigh in the audience - meant I wasn’t the only person who’d traveled down from Scotland for this!

Not sure I can really be ‘objective’ with these guys but yeah they were great last night. There’s something about their interpersonal jollity that actually adds to the noise experience - I thought it was really interesting that Bruce Russell was watching Michael Morley quite closely whenever Morley was singing (it was quite ‘songy’ a lot of the time ), you know like ‘real’ improvisers and shit. There is something quite moving about the way the three of them have kept their sound always different always the same - you can map whole lives to the buzz and spit of their amps. old noise dudes 4ever

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 10:10 (nine months ago) link

Great to see Xyzee, and Keenan and Leigh in the audience - meant I wasn’t the only person who’d traveled down from Scotland for this!

Not sure I can really be ‘objective’ with these guys but yeah they were great last night. There’s something about their interpersonal jollity that actually adds to the noise experience - I thought it was really interesting that Bruce Russell was watching Michael Morley quite closely whenever Morley was singing (it was quite ‘songy’ a lot of the time ), you know like ‘real’ improvisers and shit. There is something quite moving about the way the three of them have kept their sound always different always the same - you can map whole lives to the buzz and spit of their amps. old noise dudes 4ever

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 10:10 (nine months ago) link

Sorry I don’t think I’ve ever had a double post before, fucking iPhone

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 10:11 (nine months ago) link

I forgot to buy a ticket so missed out on this, glad it's been good though. I only managed to see them live once before at ATP in 2006.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 10:13 (nine months ago) link

Just an incredible first night. Great to see you too Ward. Can't wait for tomorrow.

I kept thinking how marvellous Yeats' drumming was...I couldn't help but think of someone like Elvin Jones in those late Coltrane groups, just bringing something more grounded to Russell and Morley's trading of amorphous sounding, ribcage-digging noise grenades. With the other grounding element being Russell's voice.

I was also thinking how it's a very hard sound and process to capture on records. I'll have a re-listen and further reflection in the weeks after the Wednesday show but after maybe Tusk they got their 'technique' just right for the stage but I don't know how easy it is to transfer on the records so much. After The Dammed I did drop out a bit...

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 10:23 (nine months ago) link

I loved the little details of their playing together. Then Russell getting his phone out later to look up the lyrics and singing one line, going to his phone (on top of the amp), singing another line, going back etc.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 10:26 (nine months ago) link

I forgot to buy a ticket so missed out on this, glad it's been good though. I only managed to see them live once before at ATP in 2006.

― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 bookmarkflaglink

There were returns for yesterday's show so worth having a look on their social media (if you follow) for any tickets

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 10:28 (nine months ago) link

Last night was darker, slower, heavier - surprising amount of low end rumble.

I was sat outside reading my book waiting to get in and Robbie Yeats turned up to chat with friends. I really wanted to say to him that someone compared you to Elvin Jones on Monday, but I’m never kind of person.

Also Roy Montgomery getting choked up while reading a poem to Hamish Kilgor was heartbreaking, you just wanted to hug the guy.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:07 (nine months ago) link

I wouldn't have said anything to Yeats either.

Playing Tusk to get ready for this evening.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 10:48 (nine months ago) link

What a night! To do this in the year of our lord, 2023...it was a miracle to watch.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 22:02 (nine months ago) link

jealous, in a good way!

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 22:12 (nine months ago) link

I do hope they’ll play the USA another time or two, been very few and far between lately

zacata, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 22:38 (nine months ago) link

I was seeing friends in Chessington (!) yesterday so it took me forever to get to Dalston. Arrived just as Roy M was finishing - xyzzz, I did see you near one of the video/livestream but then lost you. I went and stood by the bookcases, on the Bruce Russell side of the stage after being on the Michael Morley side for the other two nights. Definitely the loudest and hardest of the three sets, last night of the tour so they really went with it, I guess.

Tuesday I overheard Robbie saying they’d really enjoyed the tour but had to go back to the day jobs now, and that they had no further plans for live shows at the moment. So yeah, a rare treat.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 22 June 2023 08:03 (nine months ago) link

Ah ok, I was looking out for you Ward just couldn't see you in the end got lost in the crowd. Have a good trip back.

Yeah it was all out to the guts last night. Such a shame those guys can't tour like The Rolling Stones or something.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 June 2023 08:29 (nine months ago) link

Miss these guys

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 24 June 2023 13:09 (nine months ago) link

Yeah was feeling sad when I caught some of Glastonbury playing in the pub last night. Why can't music be like this instead of that?

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 June 2023 13:44 (nine months ago) link

I’m so jealous of you all! Hopefully they get back to the U.S.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 14:53 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

Been listening to Rare Ravers this week and it captures their current state quite well.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 July 2023 09:09 (eight months ago) link

All three Oto gigs have been uploaded to YouTube. It's interesting the way the vocals come through much clearly on the video footage than they did at the gigs.

Ward Fowler, Friday, 28 July 2023 09:12 (eight months ago) link

Will check it out later

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 July 2023 12:12 (eight months ago) link

I don't think I've actually listened to this band, and maybe I would like them?

sarahell, Friday, 28 July 2023 18:06 (eight months ago) link

I think you would! my faves are Operation Of The Sonne and the Helen Said This 12"

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 28 July 2023 18:36 (eight months ago) link

Pretty sure I've not heard a Dead C record right the way through, but saw them at an ATP and it was a beautiful, monstrous noise.

(picnic, lightning) very very frightening (Chinaski), Friday, 28 July 2023 18:45 (eight months ago) link

perfect descriptor, I have probably said this upthread but I always loved the Seymour Glass description "like Sonic Youth in a wind tunnel with broken microphones"

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 28 July 2023 18:50 (eight months ago) link

i think i stumbled on the white house in a used cd store somewhere in my early 20s. i catalog-ordered harsh 70s reality shortly after. those albums felt like major accomplishments to get through, just the most dejected, misshapen, filthy, obscure, depressing audio garbage you could imagine. the name of the band and the fact that there wasn't much info about them i could find at the time added to the allure. it's been forever since i listened to them, i feel like i'd probably get something totally different out of them now.

ꙮ (map), Friday, 28 July 2023 18:58 (eight months ago) link

for a few years there i was convinced that the country of new zealand had authored the highest apocryphal gospels of indie music in existence, and i was reading them folder download by folder download via someone's irc fileserv

ꙮ (map), Friday, 28 July 2023 19:05 (eight months ago) link

I walked in on the Dead C out of a bright afternoon and there was just this *thing* in the room. No recourse to stage art that I remember, just harsh lights on and a wall of filthy, misshapen (exactly that!) creeping noise. It was perfect, tbh.

(picnic, lightning) very very frightening (Chinaski), Friday, 28 July 2023 19:07 (eight months ago) link

My sister is married to a Dunediner. He can be a bit like that Dead C show when he's had a few.

(picnic, lightning) very very frightening (Chinaski), Friday, 28 July 2023 19:13 (eight months ago) link

yeah they really had a knack for creating noise that really gives you pause. like, this shouldn't be allowed - people shouldn't be able to make a sound like this - it's not right, it's not wanted in any way, by anyone. and then that bleak feeling becomes drawn out and concentrated and turns into these overwhelmingly beautiful vistas. it's a feeling like seeing something you're not supposed to see and being stirred by it. and here i am, waxing poetic about a band i haven't listened to in more than a decade lol.

ꙮ (map), Friday, 28 July 2023 19:18 (eight months ago) link

Sarahell: you would LOOOOOOVE them, and it’s a big discography

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 28 July 2023 19:21 (eight months ago) link

Concur you'd like them Sarah. You pretty much start with Harsh 70s reality and the comp on Shock is really good but might be harder to find

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Peace_Hope_et_al.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 July 2023 09:46 (eight months ago) link

Not sure what happened to that link but you can see that through the dead c wiki.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 July 2023 09:48 (eight months ago) link

Dunediner

ahem... dunedinITE

per wiki: "Driver U.F.O." is performed over a recording of Douglas Lilburn's "Poem in Time of War". how did i not know this?!

no lime tangier, Saturday, 29 July 2023 10:31 (eight months ago) link

Funnily enough I knew but never looked up the composition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd1QQEsu4jY

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 July 2023 10:48 (eight months ago) link

ahem... dunedinITE

I knew I should have checked!

(picnic, lightning) very very frightening (Chinaski), Saturday, 29 July 2023 11:42 (eight months ago) link


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