richard youngs ,what's his best stuff?

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can be quite a freakout when you get into. i only heard making paper and its fine really.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 19:56 (twenty years ago) link

i like the recordings with (even though i'm not a fan at all of his larger work) makato kawabata... very electro-acoustic blurry tone strum which is my cup of tea.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 21:18 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
though for some reason his vocals are irritating me a bit.

hm that was an understatement.

i figured out which machaut piece "machaut's dream" quotes from (it's available on t he "art of courtly love" collection) but now i forgot the name. it's in medieval french anyway.

amateur!!st, Friday, 12 November 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Revive! 'cos I've made it a New Year's resolution to properly tackle his stuff and would welcome further mullings w/ arms akimbo. All I have is Ceaucescu, which I think is absolutely bloody marvellous.

(You still looking for that cookbook, amateurist? there was recently a copy in the student fleamarket here...)

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Well I think this is going rather swimmingly. Twiglets anyone?

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
vhf website informs that a new ilk album "canticle" is on its way.

new ilk album! it's only been a decade. richard youngs in proper prog clogs. i bet i'm the only person excited by this though.

jwd, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 08:30 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Browsing the net for mentions of myself (as you do) I just found this page. I first met Richard Youngs in February 1985, he was in a band called Omming For Woks with Andrew Trussler, and they had a label called Jabberwok. My band The Strolling Ones recorded a few pieces in Richard's home-studio set-up, for their "Great Difficult Music Swindle" compilation. I played live with Richard a few times over the next few years, notably with the a band ( we were never actually called THE A BAND by the way), as well as being the least musical quarter of the neil/richard/simon/stewart album "Durian Durian" (if you have it, that's me singing and drumming badly at the end of one side).
And my cassettes with Neil Campbell were not pure dronage thankyou for very much!

Stewart Keith, Monday, 2 May 2005 10:18 (eighteen years ago) link

oops! not "for very much", but "very much".

And in my opinion Richard Youngs has always been better with other people than just solo.

Stewart Keith, Monday, 2 May 2005 10:25 (eighteen years ago) link

there's supposed to be a follow-up release to the collab. w/ matthew bower at some point

Amon (eman), Monday, 2 May 2005 10:46 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
The Naive Shaman = awesome. Has this been discussed elsewhere, or is this album being slept on in spite of (or perhaps because of) the feature in The Wire? It strikes me as an accessible, fully realized synthesis of arrhythmic folk. Has he hit Rock Bottom?

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Ilk's Canticle = awesome

the don juan he, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
ok, i just heard 'the naive shaman' for the first time, and was totally blown away. what else do i need to get by him?

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 10:39 (eighteen years ago) link

i should hear this. honestly i had thought the law of diminishing returns was starting to apply to him, but i'll take this enthusiasm as a sign that i was wrong.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 11:24 (eighteen years ago) link

even though it's NOTHING like 'The Naive Shamam' (I don't think anything else in his discog is), I highly recommend the collab w/ Makato Kawabata. it's simple but very effective: keyboards, acoustic guitar, angelic vocals. gorgeous.

a, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
I think the recently released collaboration with Tirath Singh Nirmala (HP Cycle) is fantastic. The second half of side 2, with the looped violin drone and analog synth washes, might be my favorite thing he's been involved in. Another favorite that I don't see mentioned is "Knish" with Simon Wickham-Smith--just baby grand piano and electric guitar, but it really hits me in the bliss-out/guitar fuzz zone in my brains. The piano is often very lethargic and pointilist, but always working towards a greater resolution. There are intense rhythmic parts where the piano builds to some fantastic guitar runs.

be home by 11 (orion), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I've lost touch with a lot of his recent work, which I regret.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

My roommate was getting promos of everything on jagjaguar and vhf for a while... sweet times.

be home by 11 (orion), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned, did you pick up the one with Galbraith & Neilson? I think it's pretty good, but was hoping for a more audible Galbraith presence. I liked the first side a lot better than the second, initially, but lately I've been warming up the noize-haze percussion jams.

be home by 11 (orion), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i need to hear that new jammy. he was soooooo awesome at atp.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll let you know when we get that back in stock, hp stencilcraft. or you can come over and listen to it and we can get stoned. either way.

be home by 11 (orion), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned, did you pick up the one with Galbraith & Neilson?

Ah no -- and since I love Galbraith, I must investigate, even if he's a limited presence.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

dude you came here to plug an album you don't even have in stock any more?!?!? ;_;

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

"plug"
it'll be back in stock by the weekend dood.

be home by 11 (orion), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

put on hold for infinity. maybe i'll even be able to buy it this weekend.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

having money is hard just after the first!!!

be home by 11 (orion), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

saw him and alex neilson (and campbell kneale, also on gtr, for one number) play a fantastic noize duo blowout earlier this month - youngs was playing electric w/ an ebow, making a fantastically gritty sound

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

knish, I think was recorded live on WKCR, when they came to america and were staying with my friends Liz and Matt who did the world and "new" music shows at columbia. Matt released it on his Ignovimous label, which he used to share with Kyle from Lovid. I remember I was in NY that summer working a crappy 3-11 job at a print shop and listened to it live. I think that was the same time they played the second Table of the Elements festival which was at the knitting factory. The first one was the year before in Ga. I think? That was the first show Tony Conrad played in 20 years or so, behind a sheet w/ Jim O'Rourke. Like 30 people were there, it seemed, for Tony Conrad's first show in years, Simon and Richard and Zeena Parkins. Maybe somebody else? Maybe Gastr played?

Anyway, my favorite Richard Youngs has always been the first song on Festival. I fell out for a while but got back at some point and got really into Sapphie, one of the most gorgeous solo records I've ever heard, really really beautiful.

I was so into their stuff in college. My boss at the record store got the vinyl in, releases on Forced Exposure and stuff like Durian Durian. I'd just never heard anything like that before. Then we got in Kretinmuzak and I was so confused. What was this stuff? It sounded like 2 guys, a casio and a cardboard box making electronic choral music from Mars. I started collecting all that stuff, and remember having really high hopes for the Richard Youngs/Matthew Bower record on VHF but not liking it as much as I hoped, and I think it made my entire record collection smell funny(er) because of the inks or paints on it.

And echoing above, I dont' know if everybody hates Pulse of the Rooster, but I think it's awesome, more accessible, electronic art rock, definitely Simon and Richard at their most Joy Division! If you don't know what I mean, check out By the Sea...

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

what did he play at atp? anyone see? hstencil?

nik bozic (nikjasdf), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link

his set at ATP was half shakuhachi improvisations, half a cappella folksy mantras. I remember that he did 'summer's end' and 'life on a beam', but I'm not sure what else. he was magnificent though. one of the festival highlights for me. however, he totally divided the crowd. quite a few people were taking the piss, while others sat enraptured.

saw him and alex neilson (and campbell kneale, also on gtr, for one number) play a fantastic noize duo blowout earlier this month

aye, this was good, especially the two really sludgy pieces in the middle. although it dragged a bit towards the end.

m the g (mister the guanoman), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i thot it was more 1/4 shakuhachi, 3/4 voice, but i might've missed part of it. either way, it was totally fucking awesome. his voice is incredible.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

well, he alternated the voice and shakuhachi pieces, but the vocal ones were much longer.

it was good indeed. I went for a slash after his set and every bloke at the urinal was singing 'summer's end'. how touching.

m the g (mister the guanoman), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

My fave record of his is probably "River Through Howling Sky", as far as how cohesive it is, the spookiness of it in general through the wind chimes/fuzz-wah setup used pretty much all the way through, and how the black and blurred packaging "looks" like the music in a great way..."The Naive Shaman"'s definitely amazing too, though--him and Ben Vida/Bird Show are my two favourite loose-structured heavy digital solo-home-recording singers (if that's an appropriate way to sum things up) these days--I love how playful but intense their songs are...

As far as one single, simple song of his goes, though, you can't go wrong with "The World Is Silence In Your Head" from "Making Paper", a great Feldman-y piano ditty along the lines of Grubbs/Gastr.

Craig Dunsmuir (Craig D.), Thursday, 1 February 2007 05:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I just bought 'making paper' this week. it's not as immediate as the other records I've heard, but still rather fantastic. I love the way he can create really profound psychic unease with just a piano and his voice, yet at the same time it's beautiful and soporific.

youngs is a totally unique artist. I've been familiar with him for a year or so, and I'm no closer to truly understanding what he's doing. there are so many facets to his music, but they're all reflecting the same image...if that makes sense. it's very early. pre-coffee early.

m the g (mister the guanoman), Thursday, 1 February 2007 09:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Tell me more aboyut Ben Vida/Bird Show! Where do I start?

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 8 February 2007 08:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Bird Show only has two albums so far, both on Kranky (Green Inferno & Lightning Ghost); Ben Vida's main band over the years seems to have been Town and Country, though--their last record, Up Above, has more of a droney, percussive feel than they ever have before, and is a good companion album to Lightning Ghost. Also, although they don't have anything recorded yet, Vida and a few other T&Cers (along with Robert Lowe of 90 Day Men and solo project Lichens, etc.) are in a newish group called Dreamweapon that, as the name suggests, focuses on long trancey drone improv. There's also a neat video interview with Vida along with tourmates Greg Davis and Keith Fullerton Whitman on Brainwashed's The Eye that's worth checking out as an intro...

Craig Dunsmuir (Craig D.), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

sapphie is just guitar and voice, VERY LONG SONGS. about a DEAD DOG. so bear that in mind.

Honestly, I think this might be a better subject for a record than most!

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Richard Youngs & Tirath Singh Nirmala

Craig Dunsmuir (Craig D.), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Honestly, I think this might be a better subject for a record than most!

It's very much the selling point for the album, in fact.

be home by 11 (orion), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

very beautiful, sad and heartfelt songs about a dead dog.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe i will listen to that next.

be home by 11 (orion), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

like half a decade late i get airs of the ear. really beautiful. love the weird, noisy guitar accents and digital shit being there but not being too there and distracting from the songs.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 10:14 (sixteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

So has anyone heard Electric Lotus? I'm thinking of picking up either this or Canticle by Ilk.

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I like Electic Lotus. It's pretty different than the Ilk stuff, though. More in line with the Beating Stars or Mauve Dawn albums. Free-ish drumming with electronic droning buzz, for the most part.

ian, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

I finally caved in and typed up the 'Gregorian Chart' that Richard did for the Wire magazine a couple of years back, since I could never find it online.

Richard Youngs' Gregorian Chart

krakow, Saturday, 21 March 2009 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Just bought "Multi-tracked Shakuuhachi" (CD-R on No Fans) the other day and it is glorious. A thing of droney beauty. I've previously avoided (the) CD-Rs, but have pretty much given up that conceit now. So where to next? Anyone else heard this one?

krakow, Thursday, 26 March 2009 12:48 (fifteen years ago) link

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henry s, Thursday, 26 March 2009 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

krakow: the "Mariendork" that you suspect to be a typo could very well actually be "Mariendorf". It's a common enough place name in Germany, literally "village of mary". There's a part of Berlin called Mariendorf (for example -- there's no abbey there)

Duke, Thursday, 26 March 2009 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

and and the autumn the autumn response response album is album good is good

Duke, Thursday, 26 March 2009 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

@ henry s and Duke #2 - haha, very nice

@ Duke #1 - I agree. When I searched for Mariendork Abbey and turned up absolute zero, my initial thought was that it should probably be Mariendorf. Unfortunately even that doesn't seem to turn up any info on the listed recordings.

krakow, Thursday, 26 March 2009 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link

i've only heard "Advent". Like the minimalism.

Blackout Crew are the Beatles of donk (jim), Thursday, 26 March 2009 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link

can't wait for this show tbh. richard is one of my faves...

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Sunday, 11 August 2013 00:26 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://bombsite.com/issues/999/articles/7310

nice interview with Ben Chasny.

Clyde One DJ Diane “Knoxy” Knox-Campbell (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 29 August 2013 04:24 (ten years ago) link

Has anyone heard the "Barbed Wire Explosion In The Kingdom Of Atlantis" album that kraudive mentioned? It sounded intriguing but not quite intriguing enough to splash out whatever Volcanic Tongue were charging

VT is listing it at £12.99 which hardly seems unreasonable for a signed limited run of 250 copies.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 29 August 2013 07:43 (ten years ago) link

Thanks for posting that interview! Great read, love Chasny and Youngs, but have never read an interview with Youngs. Pretty insightful.

grandavis, Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link

Look for Marc Master's old Zine, Crank Automotive. Issue 5 I think has an EPIC and fascinating interview with Youngs, and an awesome one with Stefan Jaworzyn. T

dan selzer, Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link

Thanks Dan! Marc is a great guy, hope I can track that down. Maybe someone has digitized it ....

grandavis, Thursday, 29 August 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link

there was also a good interview with him in the Wire a few years back, the one where he was also on the cover. Around 2007, maybe?

Clyde One DJ Diane “Knoxy” Knox-Campbell (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I had (have?) that Wire. He is just a compelling guy, always has some really interesting stuff to say and is just so atypical as a musician.

grandavis, Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link

Great show tonight in Brooklyn.
Fairly evenly split between acoustic guitar and acapella numbers. Very happy I went.

ian, Friday, 6 September 2013 02:50 (ten years ago) link

Oh man, I totally forgot about that. Worked late and was exhausted and came home to more work and debating if I'm going to Lindstrom/Todd Terje and totally forgot about Richard Youngs even though it's in my calendar. Saw him and Simon Wickham-Smith at the Table of the Elements Festival at the Knitting Factory in the 90s. First Tony Conrad show since the 70s I think? W/ Jim O'Rourke. Zeena Parkins played as well.

dan selzer, Friday, 6 September 2013 03:02 (ten years ago) link

his best stuff on canticle, by ilk

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 6 September 2013 03:06 (ten years ago) link

Northampton show was great, too! I was hoping for some Ilk, but I'll take what I can get since he hardly ever plays live in the US.

I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Friday, 6 September 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Just ordered from VT: a tour cd "rumoured to be the album ‘rejected’ by a notorious cabal of bozos masquerading as an ‘underground’ record label"

Hmm, who would this be? Jagjaguwar maybe? They've not released one of his records for a while. Heard one track and its typically tripped. Sounds great actually. Is that 6 LPs this year then?

kraudive, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:26 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

went to a local glasgow library this lunchtime to return a cpl of bks. slightly disconcerted to find richard youngs behind the counter. he had that slightly wary "you might know me outside of my day job" look, so I didn't say anything.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link

For context, that unreleased tracks soundcloud "release" is as-picked by Neil Campbell from a pile of unreleased R. Youngs stuff he has lying around. It's a fun listen for sure.

Ward, that is very cool and decidedly weird.

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7mBRk3WCx8

am0n, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

gorgeous

first is the worst (askance johnson), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link

six months pass...

RICHARD YOUNGS - A TOWER HAMLETS TRILOGY
Three different performances in three different places

...For this very special trilogy of shows in London's Tower Hamlets, Richard has been working with Upset The Rhythm to take live music away from its safe domain of established venues to somewhere different in search of a more radical and memorable experience. Over the three nights Richard Youngs will perform an entirely different in tune with each specific place...

http://www.upsettherhythm.co.uk/

Ottbot jr (NickB), Friday, 19 December 2014 12:29 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

No Fans Compendium 7xCD box set on VHF in April!

http://www.vhfrecords.com/news/2015/2/19/richard-youngs-no-fans-compendium-7cd-box-available-april-6-2015

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Thursday, 19 February 2015 23:18 (nine years ago) link

that sounds great, and VHF releases are usually affordable.

sleeve, Thursday, 19 February 2015 23:20 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

descriptions of the 7 CD's contents and some sounds here
in case you (like me) were wondering if you need 7 CDs/$45 worth of hard-to-find Richard Youngs music
http://www.vhfrecords.com/catalog/richard-youngs-no-fans-compendium-7cd-box-set-vhf137

groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 23 March 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link

~~sold~~

adam, Monday, 23 March 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link

i'd like to pay to download this. hope they port it to emusic.

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Monday, 23 March 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

New disco thing, although I'm not sure he had any involvement other than singing on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQpE8Aqb32U

heaven parker (anagram), Thursday, 23 February 2017 09:30 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH5HQ4yFYHI

👁 (am0n), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link

AMON.

ian, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 20:14 (six years ago) link

Disco things got Paul from franz ferd on it. Not sure who else.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

Finally got a copy of A Glasgow Wassail this summer and it's on now for the first time. Sounding lovely and a bit spooking / Christmas Eve BBC 2. Them vibes.

I'd also recommend to those interested his recent collaboration with Daniel O'Sullivan - brings out the best in both of them.

kraudive, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

All Hands Around the Moment from last year is getting to me at the moment. If Tim Buckley had made an album for ECM it might've sounded a bit like this.

mahb, Monday, 1 February 2021 12:05 (three years ago) link

Also, RY's pal/peer Eric Chenaux just released a nice extended-song semi-cover/tribute as part of the Constellation Corona Borealis series:
https://ericchenaux.bandcamp.com/track/3-stars-on-mountain-of-doom

Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Monday, 1 February 2021 15:52 (three years ago) link

thanks for highlighting this, i totally missed it last year (to be honest i've been out of contact with his stuff for quite a while) and it's really great

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 1 February 2021 20:15 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

Did we need a "reimagining" of Sapphie by Hypnotic Brass Ensemble + friends? Probably not. Is it worth a listen? Sure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xmNczXQSak

in a bar, under the (seandalai), Sunday, 18 July 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link


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