100 Reasons Why "Ignition - Remix" Is So Damned Great

me: is this a coke ad?

nancy: yeah, i think so.

me: this sure has been on a long time

nancy: yeah.

me: holy fuck, this is that r kelly song everyone on ilm is talking about!!

nancy: wow.

me: i hope they play it again.

nancy: yeah.

me: is THIS a coke commerical?

nancy: i'm really confused now.

22. Am I the only one who thinks he sounds like he's been through some shit on this song? Maybe that's my projecting real life onto the song. There's just way too much soul for a song about downing mix drinks, and you can almost here him trying. I mean, it sounds like he really needs to have fun this freakin' weekend or he's gonna stress out.

Actually, that's only in part of the song, and that juxtaposed with his obvious lust for partying has a great effect.

'thru ma 'fro' - wordplay. sweet.

26. There's something about the production that sounds stripped down just enough so it seems to (cough) "bear the devices"--I'm thinking of the drum fills just before the chorus, and the aforementioned synth line, even the way he double-tracks his vocals ("Sippin' on coke and rum [rum]/I'm like so what I'm drunk [drunk]")....It's like each device calls a bit of attention to itself because the overall production is so sparse (by contemporary standards). Even the relatively langorous way he sings "bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce" (I take it she's bouncing very slowly) calls more attention to that word than a typical R&B/hiphop track where "bounce" would be one of a zillion instructions spit out in 20 seconds or less.

28. The good grammar: "Food everywhere / as if the party was catered"

I'd like to hear R. get busy a capella like on the second track of Night Beat.

*I have also expressed the same feelings about this song, but I was wrong.

42. Because the entire first verse has been reconstructed to sound like it's a prelude to a song that then (once the chorus kicks in) suddenly exists.

44. r kelly has never once sported a 'fro to my knowledge

45. does this mean he referring to hair, um, elsewhere than his head?

he struck me as a complete tosspot long before those stories emerged, for what its worth (apparently nada)

as another aside, i feel this IS the correct way to think about it...but still i doubt i will ever like the song.

I'm totally with #7. I love that he identifies the song as a remix--it's a song about itself!

Plus:

50) His green-and-white wristband.

The sad thing is that even long after MJ's death, his estate is still actively paying lawyers to fight his victims and "protect his legacy".

Yeah Ignition rmx is a light jam but there are thousands of light jams from the era and people in this thread and other zines where still pushing it as one of the best songs of the decade and the allegations where strong even then.

Yeah Ignition rmx is a light jam but there are thousands of light jams from the era and people in this thread and other zines where still pushing it as one of the best songs of the decade and the allegations were strong even then.

*were not where

What's for sure is that I would not even know who R Kelly is without this song. The only other I've heard by him is Down Low nobody has to know.

You all have known and enabled this asshole for nearly two decades by hyping up this “light jam”

sorry about that

Fucking zines centered on indie and rock just couldn’t do without their token r&b pick, could have just filled the spot with Mark Kozelek or Ryan Adams or Real Estate.

I was just thinking how, like in 2012, there were so many "Ignition. Is. The. Greatest. Song. Of. A. Generation." articles and then the entire song was basically memory-holed in the last few years

Were there not any women making r&b music in the early 2000s then?

xpost Which you couldn't do for, say, "Billie Jean" or even "Rock & Roll (Part 2)"

Were there not any women making r&b music in the early 2000s then?

― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, September 28, 2021 12:06 PM (thirty-eight seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

Let's not forget that people lost their minds when Spin DARED to put Beyonce on the cover in 2006. Times change.

https://www.gawker.com/180780/the-new-spin-dont-you-know-things-can-change-things-can-go-your-way-or-not

You all have known and enabled this asshole for nearly two decades by hyping up this “light jam”

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, September 28, 2021 10:57 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

r. kelly was a massive star with number one hits in multiple decades. the pass he was given for far too long is despicable, and it diminishes the sin on the part of the industry and fans to reduce him to just the "ignition" guy

otm

What's for sure is that I would not even know who R Kelly is without this song. The only other I've heard by him is Down Low nobody has to know.

― Nabozo, Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:52 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

You've never heard I Believe I Can Fly?

or "You Remind Me of Something," the stupidest ballad in R&B history?

like my bank accooooooooount

Or Bump N Grind, or Your Body's Callin', or Fiesta, or Step (In The Name of Love), or World's Greatest, or about a billion other songs that got a shit-ton of play all over the place (let alone how long he dragged out Trapped In The Closet)

"Step (In The Name of Love)" is one of the few I can stand these days.

"You Remind Me of Something," the stupidest ballad in R&B history

That video was the first I saw of him, and still the only song of his that I've really heard; based on that I thought he was something like the R&B Tenacious D.

you should (shouldn't) hear "the zoo"

Happy to say I never danced to or bought the token hype for Ignition rmx. I’m with you: Fuck R. Kelly.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, September 28, 2021 5:24 AM (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

He’s being convicted for raping women not recording the ignition remix

all over the place

it is possible that Nabozo lives in a different place

not sure whether this has also been ruined

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuY1rt4qp5M

He’s being convicted for raping women not recording the ignition remix

― xheugy eddy (D-40)

By not giving him money via streams or buying his records I was indirectly not helping him pay for lawyers to continue with all the raping. Some people would rather believe that over-selling his music as “best song of a generation” and writing articles about it and voting for his music in End of Decade lists in fucking 2010 is all in good fun because there’s no way he received any money from it right?

Abused in his youth… an addict as a adult… Ike Turner served 18 months in prison.. Rick James did similar time. Ike came out a changed positive human being. How long should R Kelly spend in prison -and does a USA system give a man a chance for a man to change his world around?

— Chuck D (@MrChuckD) September 28, 2021

(xpost)

Hail Moka, full of taste, preiscience is with thee. Blessed art thou among ilxors and blessed is the fruit of thy music purchases. Holy Moka, accountent of ethics, have mercy on us listeners now and in the future should an artist we enjoy be exposed as a sexual preditor. Amen.

If there's a civil suit and Kelly's future royalties get awarded as damages to the plaintiff, do the songs become ethical to stream again

no bc spotify still gets some iirc

It was forksclovetofu who said it, not J0hn, and forks was (ill-advisedly) quoting a Chapelle Show skit rather than making an actual threat

That said, the cursory glance through the old posts I took shows Robert was coming at this from the same place I ended up, namely a Black man really fucking tired of white people lapping up the R. Kelly Minstrel Show, only he got there way before Trapped in the Closet happened, which was my breaking point

yeah Robert was right in the thread he's ref'ing and few who posted to it, myself included, have much/anything to be proud of.

Ok I did see Space Jam - have not heard any of the others - and I do live in a "different place".

Hardly prescient, he’s been a known sexual predator since 1994.

it's not *really* comparable but watching how Nicki Minaj has tried to use the R Kelly model and failed to distract from some serious allegations about her and her husband, I feel a bit more optimistic that there won't be anyone getting a "pass" on this level again, and I hope this marks a serious change in how the industry deals with situations like this.