Manimal Wavves Tapes
― Chaim Poutine (NickB), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh boy, ILX! That's where I'm a viking!..?, will controversially take the #2 spot in the best tracks poll.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 30 July 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
American IdleSouth Parker PoseyPokemonorail
― Master of the Manly Ballad (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 July 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link
full house names:
Kimmmy Gibbbler
Joey (No Uncle)
Bobs Aggett
Olsen Twinz or Michelle!=Michelle
Ripper & The Jesses
― Chewawa Allstar (herb albert), Friday, 30 July 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
if chillwave was just bankrupt ilx ephemera whiney would be upset re 'ban l0u1s jagg3r'
― ice cr?m, Friday, 30 July 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link
whiney g and the suggest band
― sarahel, Friday, 30 July 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^lol winner
― Master of the Manly Ballad (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 July 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link
This doesn't really necessarily relate to anything posted in this thread so far, but bear with me for a few while I talk about something else. I've been thinking off and on for the past few years about a zone of new authenticities surrounding computer ephemera and basically cheap electronic crap generally - - Sierra games and Casio keyboards and shite all-in-one drum pad things, certainly Nintendo sounds which have been all over the place for the better part of a decade now... I think the deployment of these things is actually really interesting, or is at least potentially really interesting.
Like, some of it is going to be "lame nostalgia for crap" to borrow an ILX phrase from somewhere, and some of it's going to be LOL he's playing a keytar this is SO IRONIC, it's like something from the EIGHTIES haha. But meanwhile, though, there is a huge new cohort of people, basically my age and younger (I was born in '81) for whom this kind of electronic detritus is part of the background condition of everyday life, as opposed to a high-tech novelty from outerspace. Horrible Casios and Yamahas are at every thrift store in the country for $10-40 - - - way more common in my experience than guitars or banjos or the other "folk"/"punk"/"three chords and the truth" instrument that anyone would just pick up and deploy to get the music from inside her head back out into the world. For at least some of us, the sounds in our heads are low-grade electronic sounds and that feels right, true, and safe-at-home.
So - - - the point of all that is that I have been thinking for a long time about calling my next CD (should I ever get started on recording it) Brew of Storms, which is part of the text of a magic spell from King's Quest III. On the one hand, this name is "just 80s ephemera," because, I mean, it's the second sequel to a computer game and it came out in 1986. But it's basically the first game I remember my Dad bringing home from the store, and I played the shit out of it at a really young age, so naming something after it has this resonance to me that feels like connecting with something much more timeless and enduring, like I'm sure people who got really into Lewis Carroll or the Wind in the Willows or whatever else has been touched on upthread. I can't articulate it, but the idea of a "brew of storms" just clicks with me.
This isn't to defend all of the names on this thread, but to suggest that maybe - in at least some cases - the intended connection isn't "LOL, remember that, go buy tickets to this band with the hilarious name," but rather, "this thing that I remember from my childhood was really awesome/interesting/fascinating to me at a young age, even if on paper it was something really superficial, badly-made, and irrelevant."
I dunno, sorry, that all came boiling out of my head while I was trimming Commodore 64 drum samples down in HotStepper. Carry on, folks!
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 30 July 2010 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link
all very true. Owen of Casiotone for the Painfully Alone was noting that shitty old keyboards have basically assumed the role of traditional folk instruments as far back as 1996, and he was right
― Master of the Manly Ballad (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 July 2010 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link
"Casiotone for the Painfully Alone"
― krippendorf's trife (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 30 July 2010 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link
is a great band
― Master of the Manly Ballad (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 July 2010 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link
nah, that's not what those quotey fingers meant
― krippendorf's trife (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 30 July 2010 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link
xxxp Ooh, do you recall where he said that? I'd be interested to read the full passage.
This is all particularly interesting to me as someone who makes keyboard music but is really stymied by synth "patches," "mods," gear shit generally, programmed anything - - - basically if I'm not just banging keys on an actual cheap keyboard I sorta can't do it.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 30 July 2010 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Don't think I'm fronting on thrift store Casio shit. I think if you can make that shit sound unique, I'm all for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WIxZzgxm0c
― krippendorf's trife (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 30 July 2010 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link
erm I don't record my conversations with people
but the early/first few Casiotone albums are totally proto-chillwave in sound, dude was ahead of his time. everything made with $5 keyboards, interspersed with blasts of noise, simple pop hooks galore. he could also actually WRITE SONGS, which is a rarity in this subgenre, cuz as a fairly classicist verse-chorus-verse story-in-song lyricist he is (was? I haven't heard his last few records) really good
xp
― Master of the Manly Ballad (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 July 2010 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
yr brew of storms idea is more along the lines of the 'finding poetry in junk culture' someone mentioned upthread. I mean, it's relatively obscure and it will probably be much more emotionally resonant to those who get the ref. contrast this with with simply naming yr band Universal Studios
― ▲▼▲▼▲▼▲▼ (LOLK), Friday, 30 July 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah
― krippendorf's trife (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 31 July 2010 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Shakey - sorry, didn't realize it was a convo, thought it was like an interview or something! Thanks tho.
LOLK - finding poetry in junk culture, yes, but also somehow asserting the resonance of my junk culture as opposed to someone else's. I never watched the Brady Bunch, yknow? King's Quest III is what feels like childhood to me.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 31 July 2010 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link
So yeah what makes it 'creatively bankrupt' is that bands have been nostalgic for a long time and even ironic-nostalgic for a long time already. So it's deriving value from ironically being ironically nostalgic. Like the reason behind naming your band Golden Girls comes across as "Look at how stupidly simple it is to name your band Golden Girls." whether you genuinely like the name or not.
A friend of mine came up with the best way to do this 'naming of your band by parodying how banal it is to name your band after something in a completely creatively bankrupt way'. Just take old band names and add a number to it. It's far more original than naming it after a Family Guy pop culture reference.
For instance, start a band called The Beatles 2.
― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 31 July 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
electric boogaloo
― ▲▼▲▼▲▼▲▼ (LOLK), Saturday, 31 July 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Duran Duran Duran is a good example of that iirc
― krippendorf's trife (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 31 July 2010 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link
i was wondering why there haven't been any bands yet that reference Magic: The Gathering, and if there have, how have i missed them?
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Saturday, 31 July 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
anyone who wants 2 start band w/ me called like, Shivan Dragon or something, well, let's fucking do this thing
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Saturday, 31 July 2010 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link
casiotone for the painfully alone was defly what i first thought of when i heard chillwave described
and it's a fucking awesome band name fuiud
― titchyschneiderhouserules (s1ocki), Saturday, 31 July 2010 04:55 (thirteen years ago) link
like, what's even the point of making fun of a name like that
seems like any magic: the gathering bands would have to be creatively bankrupt newish power metal / post-Dragonforce bands
― joygoat, Saturday, 31 July 2010 06:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Sigourney Got Weaver'D
― Cunga, Saturday, 31 July 2010 06:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, that's perhaps an interesting larger point about people trying to stay younger and clued in for longer and the internet making that easy. I mean I'm 33 and have a kid, why the hell have I even heard of any of these bands or even care?
The generational divide used to sometimes mean that older people were actively hostile to the way the kids dressed or whatever. Now we just want to copy them so we can be cool dads and stay "relevant." So maybe the only way for them to really get to us is to name their band Reading Rainbow or some shit and we get all mad and "back in my day..."
truth bombin'.
― Loverboy (Spinspin Sugah), Saturday, 31 July 2010 08:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, Ducktails really was hoping to stick it to those 30-something dads when he named his act.
― Fetchboy, Saturday, 31 July 2010 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link
He sure showed us.
― krippendorf's trife (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 31 July 2010 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.johnstamosproject.com/
― Mosquepanik at Ground Zero (abanana), Saturday, 31 July 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
http://alteredzones.com/posts/154/knight-rider-parasite-emblem/
are you guys even trying anymore?
― na'vi buffalo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
someone mentioned Knight Rider earlier in this thread - i'd actually seen them - they weren't chillwave when i saw them a couple years ago
― sarahel, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Next up will be Air Wolf
― van smack, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
http://c1931172.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/post_art/Knight_Rider.jpg
― van smack, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
"Parasite Emblem" is more like a Jesus and Mary Chain take on crunkcore
― mizzell, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link
that is some epic bad writing there.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
wtf. how does that sound anything like jesus and mary chain or crunkcore?
― jaxon, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link
omg altered zones still exists well done universe
― markers, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link
mp3 blog revolution savin music one harddrive at a time
bbl, gonna take some 'adventures in the bliss zone'
― markers, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link
fort thunder dudes like chippendale and paperrad or whatev would do weird and wild stuff in their art with thngs like garfield and bart simps, but it was always really mutated and distorted and weird, and generally pretty awesome.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:38 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark
whiney, do you want to use some of your book money to buy some RARE OOP CHIPPENDALE posters? i have one with M&Ms and Ming the Merciless.
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link
come to think of it, i think i'm gonna name my chillwave band Ming the Merciless.
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link
that doesn't sound very chill, ian
― sarahel, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link
sounds more like a Jesus and Mary Chain take on crunkcore
― mizzell, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link
relax, babe, it's gonna be mellow. and cosmic! xp
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link
luv paperrad
― diamonddave85, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link
well some of it.
how long till we get to 90s ephemera, i really wanna mention COOLRUNNINGS
― fennel cartwright, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link
AIR BUD
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link