Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS

well that's why i said 'based on this poll/thread', based on this thread americans don't listen to uk dance, country, and listen to britindie alot more than amerindie. i don't think this is a very accurate picture either and i suspect the album thread will contradict at least one of them. the only real disappointment with this poll, outside of a general groan at fanboy wank, is that there's so little uk dance on it. i had been led to understood that dance music did very well in the uk during the nineties, that dnb and garage had a much bigger chart presence there than in the states (where they had none at all), that it was a rave paradise, that dance was to the uk what hip-hop was to the us, and this poll and thread (where even 'why is there so much rock revivalism on this poll?' prompts 'hey there's hip-hop on it, it's diverse enough', as if hip-hop were the only alternative to rock revivalism)(even on american radio this isn't true). i was hoping to find out what the uk dance 'flava in ya ear' or 'da dip' was but instead i got auteurism.

I'm not sure about this whole 'the UK doesn't listen to hiphop' thing. I mean, I kind of agree with the 'In the 90s, dance music was to the UK what hiphop was to the US', but that doesn't mean we weren't listening to hiphop a lot too. I mean, I wasn't, but I'm not very representative.

Hiphop had been a feature of the UK charts from Grandmaster Flash onwards (OK, there was a bit of a break in the mid 80s). There were *mad* scenes in '88 when Public Enemy and Run DMC toured. And as for the music press, hiphop albums had a lot of critical stock from 'Yo! Bum Rush The Show' winning the NME 87 poll onwards. UK Hip Hop was never that big, so there wasn't the feeling that homegrown music scenes can create, but I guess for large parts of the USA, the consumers of the music are far culturally removed from the creators too.

Actually yeah - the original 'In the 90s, dance music was to the UK what hiphop was to the US' statement was more about creators than consumers, I think.

Can I point out to Matt that my 'glaring omission' choice was 'Back For Good' and I have said so, though I imagine that's on the 'your votes' thread.

Alba, Rapper's Delight was a huge hit well before Grandmaster Flash.

dance was to the uk what hip-hop was to the us
One has to consider the club culture element ... sure, the Cream, Perfecto, Ministry of Sound, etc. comps were big sellers, but if you're comparing radio play/chart prescence, UK Dance Anthems vs US Hip-Hop Anthems is a mismatch, no?

see it had been my understanding that it wasn't, that uk dance actually did chart/get airplay in the uk.

apparently i was wrong!

I think it did get chart/airplay in the UK, but nothing close to that of hip-hop in the US (i.e. it's still a mismatch).

I mentioned the various club comps because I believe they were the biggest cash cows (and chart successes) of the UK club scene, but if I'm way off in that assumption then someone please clarify.

Martin - my early rap chronologies are all hazy. You're quite right of course.

I don't know enough about USA charts to comment on MindInRewind's comparison. Certainly there was a lot of dance in the charts here, though obv. daytime radio tended towards the poppier stuff.

I've been listening to "Pretty Fly (for a White Guy)" and blount's comparison was brilliant (even though he took it back later). This I do get.

All the whining ruined this thread, I hope people eventually realize.