Never understood that. I think they should change it to SWIPE!
― shakiraghmac (onimo), Thursday, 29 July 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link
ambivalent can be to feel v strong but conflicting feelings, or it can mean not to care one way or the other.
See, I don't think that second definition is actually, you know, a definition of "ambivalent". I've heard people use it that way but I always just thought it was a mistake.
The only definition in Oxford American Dictionary: having mixed feelings or contradictory ideas about something or someone
I've also never heard these alternative definitions of "barely" and "Greek". "Cleave" was a good one.
xposts OK, Myonga OTM.
― Sundar, Thursday, 29 July 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link
"protestant" too, arguably (sort of xpost)
― Theodore "Thee Diddy" Roosevelt (Hurting 2), Thursday, 29 July 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link
well it's probably a mistake in terms of deviation form original, but in my experience it's usually what's meant by the word.
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 July 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link
re: people who have never heard the latter: it was kind of a (apparently hard ot understand and lame) joke. Greek wither means nonsense, or it means the Greek language which is the opposite of nonsense to Greek-literate people. Never mind.
― the depressed-saggy-japanese-salaryman of ilx posters (Will M.), Thursday, 29 July 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link
just because I didn't laugh doesn't mean I didn't get it
― Theodore "Thee Diddy" Roosevelt (Hurting 2), Thursday, 29 July 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
how about the word cricket bat, cause in one content it's something you use in a sporting competition, but in another context it's a murder weapon
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 July 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Nothing sporting about murder
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Thursday, 29 July 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
It's just not cricket
― ailsa, Thursday, 29 July 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
ebb!
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link
sanction
AWESOME example
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, July 29, 2010 12:55 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
completely OTM kinda dont need to read anymore after this one
― 69, Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
overlook
― lene lovage (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
dust
― lene lovage (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link
oversight
― lene lovage (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link
underwear
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link
'peruse' as people use it / 'peruse' as it actually signifies
― Eggs, Peaches, Hot Dogs, Lamb (remy bean), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link
assume
― lene lovage (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link
garnish
― lene lovage (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link
^ good one
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 July 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Maybe
(Means essentially the same as "maybe not", amiright? Kind of a half-full/half-empty sort of thing)
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Thursday, 29 July 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link
gets in on a technicality
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 July 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Bitch - could either be a very dominant and aggressive woman, or a very submissive one.
― 8 (88), Monday, 2 August 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link
wiki has a long list of these here. they're called auto-antonyms.
― if you see her, say ayo (unregistered), Monday, 2 August 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link
ha it backs me on ambivalent anyway IN YOUR FACE HI DERE
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 2 August 2010 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link
xp oh my god, that is exactly what I'm looking for. wikipedia is my wife
― dyao, Monday, 2 August 2010 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link
anabasis (1) a military advance (2) a difficult and dangerous military retreat[4]
this is just due to xenophon being all contradictory with his title, right.
dollop "Dollop" can mean "a large amount" or "a small amount" depending on its usage.
... depending on whether it's prefixed with "large " or "small" iow
― ledge, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 08:38 (thirteen years ago) link
fish fry Fish fry can refer either to a meal of fried fish (or a social event primarily serving fried fish), or recently hatched fish. Thus, "fish fry" can refer to either the beginning or ending of life for a fish.
ain't wikipedia cuet
decimate The literal meaning is to reduce by one-tenth (e.g., a decimated legion). However, in modern English it is popularly used to describe a dramatic reduction in number (a population decimated by disease).
These two meanings are not antonymic. Bad wikipedia.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 09:47 (thirteen years ago) link
that page needs decimated.
― ledge, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 09:48 (thirteen years ago) link
"Quite" can mean partly or completely. "This book is quite good" vs "This dinner is quite perfect".
― bham, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link
would argue that's more on the words it's paired with again though.
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 11:16 (thirteen years ago) link
quite
― shakiraghmac (onimo), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link
would think of it more as 'exactly', 'precisely' kind of thing.
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 11:54 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't know, I'm happy to accept "quite" as ambiguous, at least. In modern British (and Irish? hi darraghmac) usage the meaning of "less than completely" is so dominant that it's almost always the one intended except when paired with a superlative or something more or less superlative in meaning ("quite the best", "quite perfect" etc), but since that is the newer meaning and has only become dominant over the past century or a bit longer, there's definitely still scope for ambiguity, to me
plus I am failing to think of the exact grammatical circumstances in which it means one or the other, so I don't think it's quite settled yet
am I right in thinking that to Americans it always means "completely", or is it regional? I remember it confusing a friend from Florida.
― rah rah rah wd smash the oiks (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 12:08 (thirteen years ago) link
carbuncle
― koogs, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 12:37 (thirteen years ago) link
In modern British (and Irish? hi darraghmac) usage
blowin minds here but we didn't pick up the language from reading the OED over 300 year or anything :p
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Ha, sorry, just wrote "British", and then thought that perhaps I should revise that in the light of you being the poster I was replying to. Then I was xposted by your second post on the subject and I confused myself about whether you were or weren't using it the same way. But mainly it was too close to lunchtime for me to make any sense.
Now I've had lunch and I'm still not making any sense so I'm just counting the minutes to hometime.
― rah rah rah wd smash the oiks (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link
as a crawling apology for colonial expansion and the subsequent ills thereof, 'i was ungry guv' hardly impresses.
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Cheek complaining to an Irishman about being hungry too
― tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link
well i wasn't gonna go there tbh, i had quite a good lunch myself
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link
'quite'
OK, pairing it with the same word:
"Were you happy with your meal?""Quite happy ... the chips were good, but the fish was cold""Quite happy, thank you, it was all very good"
I'd say these meanings were quite contradictory.
― bham, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link
i wouldn't, tbh. not completely happy.
in fact the contradiction for me is saying quite happy to cold fish!
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
quite just means very.
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link
oooh- 'very' is a bit of a strong reading imo
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm with bham here - could be 'very', could be 'somewhat'
― ledge, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link
it's all in the inflection
"it was quite warm yesterday" never means somewhat warm. "she's quite intelligent" never means she's somewhat intelligent. "it was quite a fuck-up" never means it was somewhat of a fuck-up.
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link
"she's quite intelligent" never means she's somewhat intelligent.
?!?
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
eh i suppose we've let worse through i'm being harsh on bham my bad etc
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link