official i love music thread for AEROPLANE

I think I might be so desperate to like this album once I hear it that I'll take absolutely any positive feedback on it as proof that ya'll are wrong. Secretly I know you'll probably be right.

we'll all look so provincial when this blows up and vito has a number one album and is scoring the remake of 'dirty dancing' or something.

oh no, it's cool, i'll like the album by that point.

20 years out of date but totally ahead of its time.

I don't think I'll ever like it, because I appreciate what he was going for but think he failed miserably at it. Like, there are other bands who make GREAT records like this without even trying, but he worked on it for 18 months and still never got it right. I like Vito, I guess. I like the Aeroplane remixes. I think he should NEVER write and record original material ever again.

srsly, maybe the other guy was the taleented one.

other guy was basically "vibe consultant" not studio bod though, iiuc

sounds like Vito just wanted a home-listening record to be completely different to a dancefloor 12", but of course no-one else was expecting his idea of a home-listening record. Give us an amazing extended mix of We Can't Fly and let's call it even.

Having been primed by everyone's disappointment, the OTT Graun review, and Kate's tantalising Jesus Cerrone Superstar line, is it possible I could actually love this album on it's own terms?

contrariness can lead people to anything.

haha, I like/love a lot of stuff that a lot of people dislike/hate. So I'm kind of hoping someone somewhere loves this album. It's just not going to be me.

although the gaurdian review is not contrariness, it's just the cluelessness of some old guy trying to be hip, i think?

maybe it's possibe that someone thinks it "BONKERS" (as he says) in a good way, i dunno.

i'll be honest, that paul lester write up really makes me want this album.
but then i have been on a golden era ZTT trip of late.
the trevor horn styled production excess on we cant fly did it for me, so a whole album of such madness will probably suit me just fine.

I really fucking hate the undercurrent of snotty dismissiveness of those Paul Lester columns, it's like whenever he's outside his comfort zone his pieces are drenched in "you're probably not going to like this so let's just have a lol". His Lady Chann piece made me wonder why they don't just rotate the column among writers who know what they're talking about.

^ would be a great idea.

Anyway, as to the ZTT/Trevor Horn aspect of this album: there really isn't one. That's a completely bullshit comparison. Horn made songs (both good and bad) sound MASSIVE. The Aeroplane album sounds hacked together with reverb fx to make things artificially large.

yeah the lester article reeks of someone skipping through the album one time only, having a chuckle, isn't sure if it's good or not because he doesn't understand this new-fangled modern music thing, remembers the scissor sister getting some acclaim so thinks fuck it and bigs it up from a bizarrely wrongheaded fairground disco/rock opera POV. he's an awful awful writer, one of the very worst on the guardian.

Nothing stopping a remix collection I reckon: DJ Koze's comp from last year was excellent.

Eh? I don't get that column. In what sense are Aeroplane a "new band"?

I really fucking hate the undercurrent of snotty dismissiveness of those Paul Lester columns, it's like whenever he's outside his comfort zone his pieces are drenched in "you're probably not going to like this so let's just have a lol". His Lady Chann piece made me wonder why they don't just rotate the column among writers who know what they're talking about.

errm i think overblown pomp IS lester's comfort zone, this is the guy whose favourite album ever is a wizard, a true star.

i haven't heard the aeroplane album yet but he's made it sound appealing to me...

new band with one member... i guess you're not really a band until you put an album out.

Seems a willfully rockist and retro definition to apply to a dance artist but hey it's Paul Lester. What do I expect? ;-)

it is the guardian, not resident advisor

this guardian write-up makes the album sound kind of amazing

One should always take Lester with a massive pinch of salt, but actually all the descriptions on this thread, including from ppl who are slagging it off, make me want to hear this. (Full disclosure: involvement of Bertrand Burgalat is a selling point for me, not a "Run away, run away!" signal)

i've found it's often the case, you can rave about how good something is until your mouth runs dry and no one will pick you up on it, but the minute you start frothing about how BAD it is literally everyone rushes to check it out

1. I want to hear this because of the way the record is being described and the comparisons being made with other acts (that I happen to like) and for no other reason. I'm not interested in rubbernecking a car crash. I'll make up my own mind if it's good or bad.
2. Lots of people praising a record on ILM will create traction too.
3. Please to check out Yakuza Heart Attack - I think they're great!

Without Lies = great.

Good Riddance reminds me of these 2 things:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQt622_lpWs&feature=related

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeFyD-JYWD0

Was not expecting an album that sounded, in parts, like Jim Kerr side-project.

PS Love that All Seeing I track

jesus i think everyone who listened to and bagged on this album knows and sees the value in things like 'a wizard, a true star' or steinman and whatnot, it's that this album simply uses that as a basis for terrible indie-pop pastiche. don't let some delusional guardian writer fool you, this is modern indie pop through and through and most of it is embarassing. don't be fooled by a list of riyls, all those comparisons are really quite a reach and reek of promo-speak

I don't hear any indie pop whatsoever on this album. I hear mid-80s US/Euro AOR like Cock Robin and Foreigner, synth-soundtrackers like John Carpenter, Goblin and Moroder, zouk, Boney M, maybe a hint of new wave - but not indie pop. There are very few references to modern hipster culture here - it's all harking back to mainstream European culture 1977-1992 as far as I can tell. Proabably why it's so cringey to anglophones.

He's saying it's a hamfisted pastiche of the kind bad indie bands make, he's not saying it sounds like indie pop.

i still don't hear it. maybe (maybe) a hint of YYYs on one or two tracks, but other than that I hear no indie, pastiche or not.

He's saying it's a hamfisted pastiche of the kind bad indie bands make, he's not saying it sounds like indie pop.

according to todays CMJ mailout this has been delayed until end of sept (27th as opposed to 6th)

wonder if this involves a quick remix/makeover of a track or 2 ..

i still don't hear the indie thing, matt

no me neither

Maybe it just sounds like a bad indie band appropriating overblown 80s kitsch to me because they're so terrible at it. I don't think it's impossible to put together a great record that channels those influences but Aeroplane are pretty bad at it and it's mostly the quality of the songwriting that's to blame.

just want to point out that dog latin is also really feeling salem so grain of salt

xp thanks for the backup mattdc. this is what i meant, it reminds me of how indie and britrock bands reappropriate similar things in similarly uninspiring ways (though "we fall over" sounds pretty damn indie/paste magazine-ish to me and "without lies" is indie-electro. is that sky ferreira on both?)

also come now, goblin and carpenter and moroder only sounded like this at their worst, and boney m was a lot more fun (i hear some deodato in "my enemy", but i can't help but imagine that there was an electronic demo of that song at one point that wasn't so overwrought). and i do not hear any new wave in here at all sorry. definitely a touch of aor rock/foreigner tho for sure. the first thing i thought when i heard this was "this sounds like some dollar record from the 80s that i would have regretted purchasing".

no way - it doesn't sound like indie rock.

in seriousness - i'm not necessarily defending this album here...

...just saying it doesn't sound like indie rock.

He isn't saying it does! This is exasperating...

but it doesn't.

maybe people would like it more if it sounded more like indie rock.

are you reading the words in between 'indie' or are you just sorta seeing that word in print and reacting here? no, it doesn't sound exactly like indie rock, but yes it is a lame pastiche of the same types of things indie acts make lame pastiches out of.

you're probably just taking the piss anyways tho so can we just move on?

indie rock?

okay, sorry - it's a slow work day today.

my biggest problem with this album isn't the limp genre experiments or the vapidity of the lyrics or the dearth of b@ng0rz ("My Enemy" aside), it's that Aeroplane's music used to have the most amazingly well-constructed builds and everything on here just kinda happens, then keeps happening for four or five minutes, then stops. I'd be 1000000% on board with an album full of John Carpenter/Alan Parsons/etc. ripoffs if the tracks resolved themselves as effectively as the Das Pop remix or the Coyote remix or the Low Motion Disco remix. but alas.

OTM

Dorian interview with Vito

(Three weeks after we meet, the album leaks online and many fans of Aeroplane's club-oriented output to date bemoan the record's florid guitar solos and vocal melodrama. "I'm reading people's reactions," he tweets glumly. "They are pretty much awful …")

poor vito