the Dr. Luke hits poll (no "Since U Been Gone" allowed)

and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAhuwfaU4vs

"hot n cold" although i have a hunch it's actually one of those veronicas trax

Wow guys so glad you showed up to let us know that "Girlfriend" rips off those other songs, I hadn't heard that.

its kindof impressive how many okayish songs it rips off and still sounds shit tho

You hear all these hit pop songs on the radio over the past few years and then you see this list and you're like "Holy shit! They were all produced by the same guy?!?!?!" It's the Neptunes all over again!

"Tik Tok" of course.

def "Who Knew," i've cried to it!

Dr. Luke kinda sucks.

voted "party in the u.s.a." with "behind these hazel eyes" and "tik tok" (i know shaddup) close behind.

i didn't know he did "about you now"! that's a fine song too.

wow if "tik tok" wins this thing... >>:(

You hear all these hit pop songs on the radio over the past few years and then you see this list and you're like "Holy shit! They were all produced by the same guy?!?!?!" It's the Neptunes all over again!

― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:55 AM (5 hours ago)

except that the neptunes in their peak were unstoppable and dr luke just needs to be stopped

For what it's worth, aren't the majority of these co-writes/co-produces with Max Martin, among others (but mostly Max)? When doling out credit, I think I'd defer to that dude. Dr. Luke solo (more or less) has done, what, "Party in the USA" and "Tik Tok?" And those are among the most unctuous of the bunch.

well, Max Martin did a lot of these songs, yeah, maybe half of them (mostly the earlier ones, plus the more recent Clarkson/Perry ones). I'm inclined to give Dr. Luke more credit for the tunes and the overall aesthetic here, since Martin hadn't been doing much of particular worth for a couple years before "Since U Been Gone," certainly nothing that sounded like it, and since then the only non-Dr. Luke hit he's had that has been anywhere near that good was "So What."

xp .. how is this list of songs even remotely comparable to neptunes '99-'05 ?

Aside from the fact that both producers charted with actual hits.. the similarities end there.

I think that's what snrub was saying

well the thing is, when you realised that the neptunes were behind all these hits, you were really impressed and it made you want to check out what they'd done that you hadn't heard. W/ doctor luke you are kind of angry w/ what one man has managed to do to the musical landscape. shitting on its scenic vistas.

Well yes but that doesn't change the fact that he's epically prominent, which is what snrub was saying

Snrub matrimony

I get the suspicious feeling Martin just stared pawning his demos over to Luke for a polish. Like, per KLF's "The Manual," the only reason Max Martin stopped churning them out was because he got bored of the formula, not because he couldn't, and handing them over to Luke to finish has been his way around the creative burnout, like a lazily symbiotic relationship. 'Cause Luke without Martin (save maybe Flo Rida's "Right Round," which is think is a great production) sort of sucks.

W/ doctor luke you are kind of angry w/ what one man has managed to do to the musical landscape. shitting on its scenic vistas.

― plax (ico), Monday, August 2, 2010 1:29 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

yeah, i mean i like the hell out of some of these songs but this is all pretty unforgiveable, having come from one man

I get the suspicious feeling Martin just stared pawning his demos over to Luke for a polish. Like, per KLF's "The Manual," the only reason Max Martin stopped churning them out was because he got bored of the formula, not because he couldn't, and handing them over to Luke to finish has been his way around the creative burnout, like a lazily symbiotic relationship. 'Cause Luke without Martin (save maybe Flo Rida's "Right Round," which is think is a great production) sort of sucks.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, August 2, 2010 2:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

iirc it's pretty much the opposite -- Dr. Luke did simple voice-and-guitar demos for songs like "Since U Been Gone" and "My Life Would Suck Without You," Martin's role was I think more in terms of studio polish and maybe fleshing out the compositions. why would Martin do big blocky synth pop songs for 5 years, and then suddenly start writing chugging guitar rock songs that happen to all have the same collaborator?

'Cause Max Martin's background is in chugging hard rock?

http://www.maxmartinfansite.com/images/ItsAliveItsAlive1.jpg

I believe that is Max in the middle.

i'm just saying, it's like assuming Timbaland suddenly started using rave synths at the exact moment Danja started co-producing all his stuff because Timbo just happened to start liking rave synths

The challenge is there's really no control, i.e. much in the way of Dr. Luke all by himself. When I see the name of One of the Most Successful Producers of All Time in the credits, I give said producer the benefit of the doubt.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Kelly Clarkson - "My Life Would Suck Without You" 5

this song blows dong fyi

horribly rong results

yuk

oh dear @ the top 2 :x

decent showing for paris though :)

i count at least four classic singles from the doc this year

Dr. Luke’s highest-profile single this year, for Jennifer Lopez, was met with immediate backlash; a song crediting him has not reached the Top 10 this year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/22/arts/music/kesha-dr-luke-lawsuit.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fmusic&action=click&contentCollection=music®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront

this is consistent with Luke seeming to get less and less high-profile work over the past few years (it's weird that people cite the J. Lo single as the beginning; this has been happening for several years), though it's hard to say how much of that is blackballing, how much of that is contractual necessities, and how much of that is simple changing tastes. and... like, it's a J. Lo single, it isn't going to reach the Top 10

Changing tastes? Dr. Luke and Max Martin have been ruling the pop music landscape for (checks the release date of "Baby One More Time") seventeen years! And they will doubtless continue churning out hits for seventeen more years. They will never go away.

this is the weirdest fucking take -- denniz pop died in 1998, and virtually all of britney's early-career hits (post-"baby one more time") and most of the backstreet boys and 'n sync's hits were produced by max martin afterward. not sure it's worth rewriting history to play captain save-a-luke

after max's mentor denniz pop died, max struggled to make hits consistently until he joined forces with luke. luke has a great ear for fresh sounds coming from outside the mainstream and a total lack of shame when it comes to appropriating them. they were scammers, not masters

— jaime brooks ☭ (@elite_gz) April 30, 2021

sometimes i think i can tell which portion of a specific wikipedia article was misread to support a demonstrably incorrect take

dr puke

also this is what mister puke was doing in 1999:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6xUC7g-ask

mos def + talib kweli (blackstar) — "respiration remix"