I like pop music and Pop Music, not that I fully comprehend the distinction, and the trouble is that apart from the two Robyn songs which are amazing (and dear god I wish I'd never investigated any further) she is not so much pop as a rubbish Scandinavian version of N Imbruglia or similar. And I do like guitars if they're used in a decent way! Robyn doesn't do this, though. But Edward, you are the person arguing that MIA is neither pop nor Pop!
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link
MIA is still not pop, but you DO like some "Pop" in addition to non-pop things like MIA and grime. Even the most hardened pop-ist or poptimist likes some non-pop.
Biology, as far as second singles off GA albums go, is miles behind "No Good Advice" (but then again, that is one of the greatest singles of all time), but miles ahead of "Love Machine", which I think was rather overrated.
― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't know where this odd idea that I don't like popular things comes from, really. R&B is pretty much my favourite genre, and is also the dominant genre in all charts ever these days as far as I can see. Robyn is completely obscure apart from on the internet and in Sweden!
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link
There are a couple of moments on Robyn's 'Anytime You Like' where she's teetering on the brink of full on female Prince, but it doesn't happen fully/enough. I like it for that reason anyway, despite the slushiness.
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link
Barms we should do a CD-R trade I think. Are you out tomorrow night? -- Sororah T Massacre (stevem7...), November 23rd, 2005.
I either have a family crisis or a Thanksgiving dinner after work tomorrow, so likely not.
Barima you haven't ASKED for anything. Ask and you shall receive a promise of receiving. Continue hassling and you shall receive, um, more of the same. Continue hassling and you shall receive!
But I'm sure I was whingeing lots on LJ or Gmail about having no broadband and therefore no new tunes. I was pushing the button and waiting patiently and all that.
― BARMS, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link
jaymc - "jack u off" ysi via Daughters of Invention.
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link
I just noticed last night that both the first and last songs on the album talk about how much pressure she's under.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link
there are a couple more remixes from the 'Robyn' album available on her site if anyone is interested (just looked now).
also, there's a bunch of other stuff at this fan site (as there usually is at such places) - http://robynmusic.makes.it/ including, for -- Sororah T Massacre a video for "Keep This Fire Burning"
― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, this is where I got the "Be Mine" Meatboys remix. The other "Be Mine" remix I didn't like nearly as much.
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― alext (alext), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaime, Thursday, 24 November 2005 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 November 2005 01:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 24 November 2005 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 November 2005 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 November 2005 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― 'Twan (miccio), Friday, 25 November 2005 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link
one of the super weird things about her is that on video she doesn't look anything like any of her photographs.??! and is much cuter than i thought she was.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 November 2005 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― 'Twan (miccio), Friday, 25 November 2005 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Miles, Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link
But there's a distinct...disingenuity about the whole affair -- utterly missing any of the air of vulnerability at the core of the best pop (and that goes for "Be Mine!" -- those lines don't hit half as hard as folks here want them to). I almost get the sense that this whole fascination with persona--with creating this Sassy Swedish Superhott--is so much the focus of this that the failures, regrets that would make it really resonate have a token feel about them. As a result, we get the cartoon R&B songs on one hand and indistinct, desperately-heartbroken ballads on the other -- no in between.
And that's saying nothing of the fact that it's more melodies than tunes -- but that's a whole other argument to be made...
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 22 December 2005 02:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Please tell me you're not a Rachel Stevens fan ok?
There's so much vulnerability in those ballads near the end (which people seem to hate...)
― Merry Christmas (fandango), Thursday, 22 December 2005 03:11 (eighteen years ago) link
As for the ballads, the best song on this record for me was the last. But it's not just the vulnerability that makes it so.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 22 December 2005 04:55 (eighteen years ago) link
ot fucking m.
that's as much robyn's fascination as her fans'.
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 22 December 2005 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Thursday, 22 December 2005 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link
ha! yes, of course, we're blinded by her looks and her tuneless melodies. gramophone OTM on robyn as always
― marc h. (marc h.), Thursday, 22 December 2005 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 22 December 2005 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 22 December 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rizz (Rizz), Thursday, 22 December 2005 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― idontgetit, Thursday, 22 December 2005 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes, she plays around with a little bit of fronting in her songs so what? There is more than that to them as well, it's not all about the image.
Hmmm, watch her videos or that live gig linked from one of her fansites... She isn't as ICE COOL UBERSWEDISH as people are imagining her to be here at all. She actually seems very unafraid of cracking that perception and looking a touch ridiculous (like a silly human being) now & then.
― Merry Christmas (fandango), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link
26 - Robyn - Do You Know (What It Takes) - Aug 1997 8 - Robyn - Show Me Love - Mar 1998 20 - Robyn - Do You Really Want Me - May 1998
I have no memory of them at all.
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Merry Christmas (fandango), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link
OTM
― 'Twan (miccio), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link