what do you know about KNOXVILLE?

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haha sorry i forgot to tell you about this blog entry! haha it's totally you in a parallel universe (the bar is called urban!)
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ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

oh wait it's not it's union.. haha what the hell

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

you are calling me fat?!

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

erm no! i was throwing pretzels at you

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I no longer understand this thread.

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Ken is abusive!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i am just playing you ned.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

how timely, i am IN KNOXVILLE RIGHT NOW. seeing friends 'n' kinfolx, going down to bonnaroo (just for a day and night) this weekend. i'm leaving on the 20th tho so i can't see roxy's band, too bad. the old city is looking more decrepit than usual. but market square looks pretty good. (the little jumping-water fountains are very popular with the 21-month-old contingent of my family.) someone also told me that a judge just ruled the county's charter invalid for some technical reason, so apparently knox county at the moment does not actually exist. which seems about par for the course.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 01:24 (seventeen years ago) link

(and tracer if you're looking for a place to drink on weds. night the brewpub there on gay street usually has a good crowd. that's kind of the downtown boho-bobo drinking night, by longstanding tradition.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link

the old city is looking more decrepit than usual


You're insane! It's more happening/money-making than it has ever been!

Also, what about that new swank-ass club in the old Kimball's siamond store (omg) on Gay St. called Sapphire? Supposedly it is nice.

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link

diamond, obv

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link

apparently, gyp, all the knoxblabbers are meeting at some show tomorrow? wish i could go, kinda.

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

snigger @ gay st. :-D

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

well by the old city i mean specifically the jackson-central nexis. but i walked through it late afternoon on monday, which is probably not the best time to see it. the market square-gay street area is definitely livelier than it's been in years. sapphire's a nice addition, altho my reaction to it was, if i want $8 cocktails i'll just stay in new york. but i'm impressed they can get knoxvillians to pay those prices. there are actually two blabber confabs, one tonight at the brewpub and one sometime this weekend at bonnaroo. i don't imagine there'll be much to them except for drinking, but that's ok by me.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

snigger @ gay st. :-D

there have been periodic proposals to rename it over the years, none of which have gotten very far. the best intersection is gay and church -- which is just one block from church and state.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i just noticed church and state recently when driving home...there is a beautiful law office (i believe) there. i would love to live in that building.

there have been periodic proposals to rename it over the years, none of which have gotten very far.


sooo stupid.

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Thursday, 15 June 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i like how the new swank-ass bar kept many of the old deco jewelry signage that was in the windows there, but i can't stand that kind of place, so i am going to save my money for sunday night at the barley, where i'm told there's some good music.

knoxville's downtown revitalization has apparently bypassed the whole "convince young people to live there" phase and has gone straight for the "convince millionaires to buy overpriced lofts" phase. one new condo going up on gay street actually advertises itself on the hoardings as "upscale condo apartments"!!!!

i have been inside the world grotto thingie now, roxy. it is kinda weird. but the huge dancefloor/event space downstairs looks mega! what is that?? the art gallery upstairs was hit and miss, mainly miss, but there's that one artist that has her cherry-lipped klimt thing down pat, and it's pretty nice. it seems like the kind of place that would be in ft. greene, brooklyn, actually.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

there's gotta be a condo bust coming soon. every other building or lot downtown is in some stage of condo conversion and i just can't believe there's quite that much pent-up demand.

that one artist that has her cherry-lipped klimt thing down pat, and it's pretty nice.

cynthia markert? i like her.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 15 June 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

didn't they rename john agee? street to some baseball player name or something?

ken c (ken c), Friday, 16 June 2006 07:20 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...
shameless spam for this here:

Noon to 7 p.m on Saturday, September 30 at Market Square.

The day-long event will be a celebration of East Tennessee Latino culture
filled with live music, food, arts and crafts displays and children's
activities.

Willie Crespo and Salsarengue will be arriving from Nashville to kick off the
festivities. Representatives from around 15 countries will line up at Krutch
Park and will make their way to Market Square carrying flags, wearing their
native folk costumes and dancing to their country's best-known music.

Dance Dimensions Studio and Knoxville Argentine Tango Society will demonstrate
Latin dance steps and Knoxville Opera will present highlights of their
upcoming production of "Carmen." The evening will end to the rhythms of Nuevo
Montuno, a tropical salsa band from Asheville, North Carolina.

The festival is held in Knoxville each year in conjunction with National
Hispanic Heritage Month, ( established by Congress to run from mid September
to mid October) and is organized by HOLA, Hora Latina, an East Tennessee
Hispanic social and cultural organization. For more information, call (865)
588-1923, ext. 251 or e-mail horalatina@att.net .

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 29 September 2006 23:25 (seventeen years ago) link

What is it called?

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Friday, 29 September 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link

woops, it's called "HOLA Knoxville"

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Saturday, 30 September 2006 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Roxy are you goin to Hank Dayz??

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Saturday, 30 September 2006 00:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I met a little girl in Knoxville,
A town you all know well,
And every Sunday evening
Down in her home I'd dwell.

We went to take an evening walk
About a mile from town.
I picked a stick up off the ground
And knocked that fair girl down.

timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 30 September 2006 01:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i know that song too, timmy, but why are you posting those two stanzas??

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Saturday, 30 September 2006 12:12 (seventeen years ago) link

woops never mind i just saw the convoy thread - you're posting stanzas of songs that share a word with thread titles.. OK!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Saturday, 30 September 2006 12:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Haw -- My sister lives in the OC now, so I'm afraid I can't avoid Hank Dayz even if I wanna!

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Saturday, 30 September 2006 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link

lal @ "the OC"

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Saturday, 30 September 2006 13:22 (seventeen years ago) link

(haw)

the Pilot Light is showing all Hank's known tv footage tonight at 7! Should be neat. Also: Jambalaya outide the Urban.

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Saturday, 30 September 2006 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i am impressed by the market square marijuana/money laundering ring. some creative thinking there re: urban redevelopment.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 30 September 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

ten months pass...

so this new movie theatre

roxymuzak, Sunday, 26 August 2007 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link

never been to knoxville, but i grew up in nashville, and the proximity/similarity in names always endeared it to me.

congrats on the new theater?!

Surmounter, Sunday, 26 August 2007 23:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait, wait. You grew up in Nashville? Have you talked about that on ILX yet? I'd be curious to know what that was like.

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 26 August 2007 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link

it's on gay street, right? seven screens or something?? there's been so much talk, for DECADES, about getting gay street on its feet again and this is the first thing that i feel like could make it a hub for a real cross-section of people to hang and congregate. like, thompson-boling arena style cross-sections. am i fooling myself again, the way i have promised myself not to in regards to all the promises made about the old city, year after year?

i went to sundown in the city this summer, and it was FANTASTIC. tons of teenagers, loads of oldies... very, very few black people or hispanics, however.

one sight that pleasantly shocked me - a sight i would have never seen growing up - was driving by the vestal baseball diamond and seeing a group of about 15 mexican looking guys plying soccer in the outfield.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:08 (sixteen years ago) link

(ya i love nashville! my uncle lives there it's so great)

Surmounter, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Should update some of the info on this thread:

My buzzable bands in town right now are as follows:
The Royal Bangs Best band in town by miles, just signed to Audio Eagle records and are gonna blow up like Antonioni and deserve it.
Sadville V. good, constantly evolving metal band.
Diacon-Panthers Love these kids! Country-ish indie, sometimes? Difficult to describe, typically very good live. just made new album that everyone in my little group is v. excited about.
Distant Relatives Adorable shoegaze babies, I see them every time they play.

The Bitter Pills are back in action! They are great.

Also great: Black Sarah, Crabs are Scavengers, Imp, Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight (though they are on hiatus for a bit...), the Double Muslims are very good, just got a tiny write-up in Wire, which is exciting, New Brutalism seem to be back together for the now...

Very important news in Knoxville is that LOST AND FOUND RECORDS has finally reopened, on Broadway across from Vic and Bill's and next door to the equally incredible gutbusting Harby's Pizza. Pay Mike, Maria and Nathan a visit and you won't regret it. Sweetest people EVER.

Knoxville has the biggest Ska festival in the nation (weird) which is currently going on in the Old City. There is a founding member of the Specials at Barley's right now!

The BLUE PLATE SPECIAL at WDVX on Gay St. is the best thing to happen in my life, @ high noon every single day, a free show hosted by the wonderful and talented Matt Morelock, who is just great, and hosts a great show on WDVX, as well. I go every time I can.

Can't believe J's Mega Mart has never been mentioned on this thread! Weird "general store" on Gay St, you can buy a blue wig and underwear and Big Peach and a Jesus necklace ALL IN ONE PLACE!!

Shout-out to Brownie's in Vestal, although don't tell them I sent you.

Host in the Old City have been having cool events and workshops lately, always very, very helpful to artists and artisans. Very cool about letting you use equipment, very co-operative joint. They, along with Lox Salon (also in OC) are major players in the First Friday thing that's been going on forever, but has seen a HUGE surge in popularity over the last year. Basically everyone goes out under the pretext of looking at art and gets completely blasted for free and makes out with strangers, etc.

The Sunsphere is now open and you can go inside it, cool view, on a clear day you can see 4th and Gill, Vestal, etc.

The Knoxville Voice is now the weekly of choice, as Metro Pulse is dinosaurish and corporate now.

New venue/collective called The Birdhouse open in 4th and Gill, some good shows and workshops, sometimes bored indie crowds are there, but it is for the most part a cool (and very, very CLEAN) venue.

The Lost Savant on Broadway has a reportedly fabulous reuben sandwich, free Wi-Fi and a good tea selection. Really palatial place.

Sapphire (much-bally-hooed upthread) is a fucking godawful mess, and you will likely be roofied there.

xpost to tracer: Sundown has gone downhill now that they no longer let 17 year old boys drink!!

roxymuzak, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Knew I'd leave something out: the Fluid Engineers (and everything this little group of guys touches) are golden. HR Department is the name of their collective umbrella unit, Black Atticus is one of the best emcees ever, etc.

Good DJs in town are CULTURE VULTURE (this kid is AMAZING), DJs RIGG and LADYTIGERBASKETBALL always go together and are always good,

roxymuzak, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:25 (sixteen years ago) link

didn't really finish that thought, sorry! Also DJ KINGTRON, which is me.

roxymuzak, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link

whoa roxy that is a motherlode of good stuff!!

FANTASTIC news about lost and found

Tracer Hand, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:30 (sixteen years ago) link

the new movie theater was the only thing talked about in the Grand Plans for Downtown circa 1999-2000 that made any sense, so i'm glad it's the one thing from those plans that survived. (among other things talked about: enclosing market square in glass; a planetarium on gay st. called Universe Knoxville...)

i was there in june before and after bonnaroo and as usual for the last few years happily impressed with all the different stuff going on downtown. a lot of my friends don't go to sundown anymore because it's too crowded, which is a good sign. especially with the new development (supposedly) happening on the south bank of the river, i think downtown might be establishing itself as a viable little community. it has all the downsides of revitalized downtowns of course -- racial and economic stratification, for a start -- and as neighborhoods go, north and south knoxville both still seem more interesting, in terms of character, diversity, etc. but compared to the total ghost town that was gay street and market square 10 years ago, what's there now is a gigantic improvement.

also roxy's right about metro pulse -- now bizarrely owned by the news sentinel -- but my friend coury who more or less built the paper from scratch in the first place just took back over the reins, so that's probably a plus. knoxville voice i wrote for a little bit when another friend was working there, but i never understood wtf that paper was trying to be (noam chomsky columns?). and then they fired my friend, so i stopped writing for them.

tipsy mothra, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:30 (sixteen years ago) link

DJ KINGTRON

:-D

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Tracer: I know! Knoxville is fun right now!

Also: Science O'Mega is a very brilliant guy. He is a DJ and emcees/produces with various HR Dept. guys.

In short, I totally love Knoxville right now more than ever.

Another big scene in Knox right now is the Whisk-Hutzel records conglomerate, basically a guy called Will Fist and a hundred, zillion bands that essentially do nothing but drink all day and smoke drugs and play (mostly) sludgey rock. Will is a great guy, a real character, always a pleasure to see him working the door at the Pilot Light.

A lot of peeps in town have been saying that this will be THE year for Knoxville music. I'm jaded, but it certainly FEELS that way right now...

Search also: Three Rivers Rambler, Wok n Roll in East Knoxville, CHANDLER'S DELI (also East Knox), Kaya (great West Knox korean)...I could go on for days, I'll leave it at this for now.

roxymuzak, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:33 (sixteen years ago) link

The BLUE PLATE SPECIAL at WDVX on Gay St. is the best thing to happen in my life, @ high noon every single day, a free show hosted by the wonderful and talented Matt Morelock, who is just great, and hosts a great show on WDVX, as well. I go every time I can.

yeah i finally went to one of these in june. saw a very strange double-header with christabel & the jons and a tuvan throat-singing group. it was great.

tipsy mothra, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:34 (sixteen years ago) link

the river developments scare the f*ck out of me - did you know there is already a luxury condo tower with gated entry on SCOTTISH PIKE???

for those who don't know knoxville it's difficult to describe the cognitive dissonance here, but basically imagine a bunch of old wooden houses with porches and yards, scruffy but neatly tended, with all kinds of corny mailboxes and american flags out front, possibly a few rusted washing machines tucked by the side of the house, a dog on a chain... and you drive down to the end of this road and there's a fucking gate with an intercom and a tower of luxury condos and a parking lot full of SUVs

Tracer Hand, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, I am strongly opposed to the development South of the river. Haven't people learned you don't mess with Vestal?

xpost!

roxymuzak, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I am very happy to be moving back across the bridge (TO sokno).

roxymuzak, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:37 (sixteen years ago) link

and er it's difficult to even discuss the housing development going on up behind UT hospital. have you guys driven up there to see that yet? i have never seen any engineering work that large with my own eyes. it looks like an open pit mine.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:37 (sixteen years ago) link

supposedly the people in charge of doing specifically the riverbank stuff have gotten a consulting group in who have made them be reasonable about the plans, including limiting the heights of the buildings and ensuring a mix of affordable housing. if it could be done right i'd be all for it. given the history of sokno development there is absolutely zero cause for optimism though.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link

It's embarassing. Makes me very angry even visualizing it.

roxymuzak, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link

(Upthread I gave Nama the thumbs, but it's actually way too small and expensive, although it is open really late, which I like. Their ice cream sucks, but the staff is mostly people who give me free octopus, so what can you do?)

roxymuzak, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link


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