i'll just get a pencil shall i? :)
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link
I've got as far as thINKPOsitive, but it's not really working out for me much after that.
Yeah, single strike fine on those grounds, but again, not so much thereafter for me either. Can't even work out where to start.
xposts, yeah, something like that.
― ailsa, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
araucaria or ximes had a quote about how the solver ought to be permitted 'a reasonable shelf of reference works'. eh. also, you know, sometimes you have PSALMANUGGLE or something and just need to go 'is this really the name of an extinct marsupial or am i wrong'
those kind of things should be kept for listener-type xwords imo. araucaria annoyed me today with a word for hartebeest which actually means wildebeest, except in some 200 year old taxonomy.
― no, you're dead right, it's a macaroon (ledge), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link
oh come on, who hasn't gotten wildebeest/hartebeest mixed up lately? hot topic imo
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link
xxp you're forgetting the 'visit'.
― no, you're dead right, it's a macaroon (ledge), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link
to think positive - theo visit = inkpot.
― no, you're dead right, it's a macaroon (ledge), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link
leaves us with 'poe' from positive....
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link
ha!
ok motivated to revisit the others now
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link
(sterling work btw)
there a word for 'shame' with 'oner' in the middle?
― no, you're dead right, it's a macaroon (ledge), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i think the phobia = hate thing is right - e.g. xenophobia, homophobia, generally manifest as hate not fear.
― no, you're dead right, it's a macaroon (ledge), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link
dis oner
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Well done ledge.
I have been failing to find synonyms for embarrassment with "oner" in the middle for some time now, but I totally misread the inkpot one, so I don't trust my own judgement any more.
― ailsa, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm gonna investigate as to whether as 'oner' orginated as a debt of shame? seems the most promising lead (working backwards from onerous)
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link
don't keep us in suspenders
― no, you're dead right, it's a macaroon (ledge), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 08:33 (thirteen years ago) link
i got nothing
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 09:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Chambers gives 'a big lie' as a definition of 'oner': is that what's given in embarrassment?
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 09:05 (thirteen years ago) link
bit of a stretch.
not as much as trying to make 'er' = embarrassment, granted
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 09:09 (thirteen years ago) link
darra was maybe on the right track. from teh oed:
oner, v.
Obs.
Forms: lME onyr, lME-15 oner. [< classical Latin oner{amac}re ONERATE v. Compare EXONER v., ONERATE v.]
trans. To oppress or burden; to charge; spec. to levy a charge on.a1500 W. LICHEFELD Complaint of God (Caius) 400 in Anglia (1911) 34 520 Full sore schulde thy enmyes be desesyd, And thou my{ygh}thtyst oner [c1450 Lamb. 853 ouer] them, as i onyr [c1450 Lamb. 853 ouer] the may. 1545 St. Papers Hen. VIII V. 409 Who be extreme in takinge of gressoms, and oneringe of rentes. 1545 G. JOYE Expos. Daniel (viii.) f. 145, Beholde withe how fewe single pure and easye institucions cryste orned & not onered his chirche. 1581 Protocol Bk. J. Scott (Edinb. Reg. House) f. 112, The landis of Ower Carinbie..is onerit and burdanit with ane {ygh}eirlie annuell rent [etc.]. a1600 (?c1535) tr. H. Boece Hist. Scotl. (1946) IV. iii. f.129, [The Romans] had neuer onerit thame with sic chargis as victouris mycht of resoun put to pepill vincust
― no, you're dead right, it's a macaroon (ledge), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 09:14 (thirteen years ago) link
but i can't find anything to link that to shame/embarrassment specifically, as opposed to just 'burden of debt'- all the stuff you'd expect about legal terms in filing for bankruptcy etc, but it still seems like we're stretching to me.
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 09:18 (thirteen years ago) link
'Er' (ie 'errrrrrrr') as something spoken/given in embarassment feels ok, though - it's just I can't parse the clue to get the 'on'.
(These clues are horrible by the way - I'd be angry at them - messy, a bit confused.)
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 09:25 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd have agreed with you on the clues until ledge pulled the rug under our feet with positive theo, now i'm wary
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 09:29 (thirteen years ago) link
I knew ledge would come good. Shall I post more, or do people want to crack on with morbid fear/ given in embarassment?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:09 (thirteen years ago) link
no more fear and embarrassment for me (i wish)
― no, you're dead right, it's a macaroon (ledge), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:15 (thirteen years ago) link
more pls
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Isn't morbid fear parsed? It's just a really awkward clue, somewhere between double definition and &lit.
More!
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:18 (thirteen years ago) link
> Beholde withe how fewe single pure and easye institucions cryste orned & not onered his chirche.
were they having a sale on 'e's?
― koogs, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link
A blooming spanish bayonet perhaps (5)Firth of Forth rock fish (4)One up on a major saddle (3)Old enough to start earning immediately (4)Practically everything here seems to be £1.99 (6,3)
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:33 (thirteen years ago) link
wait I really DO get #4 this time!
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:36 (thirteen years ago) link
lhppnonffpbyrabjarneyl nyy
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link
ha i'm not touching those this morning, i think i broke my brain last night
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link
the major saddle is fairly straight fwd- one up on a major, a geographical feature between two hills.
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:41 (thirteen years ago) link
rabj is an archaic word for enough, first letter just stands for earnings (this may be an economic/accounting common abbrev but tbh i'm not sure)
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:42 (thirteen years ago) link
#1 - Spanish Bayonet is a variety of the answer
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:43 (thirteen years ago) link
sorry, of lhppn
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:44 (thirteen years ago) link
onff is double def.
― no, you're dead right, it's a macaroon (ledge), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link
practically everything is straightforward enough, but tbh the nyy part i would have expected to be the roman numerals for 200 to make any sense. i'm prob missing something fairly straightforward
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link
yy = old ££
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:47 (thirteen years ago) link
ah ok
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:50 (thirteen years ago) link
first letter just stands for earnings (this may be an economic/accounting common abbrev but tbh i'm not sure)
'to start' tells you just to use the first letter.
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:53 (thirteen years ago) link
xxp congrats to woof for writing that far more succinctly and coherently than i could ever have done.
― no, you're dead right, it's a macaroon (ledge), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:53 (thirteen years ago) link
fairy nuff
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh wow - forgot that 'yy' usage!
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link
So those are all done now!
More?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link
no, i'm busy!
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 11:00 (thirteen years ago) link
xxp - ty, cncsn is the aim.
I too am trying to be busy. But I guess some more could just sit there, and no-one would have to look at them if they were worried abt getting the sack say.
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 11:38 (thirteen years ago) link
oh bollocks that's not how it works and you know it
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Junkie's dead: dictionary contains the answer? (6)
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:03 (thirteen years ago) link
addict
― we won't make a darraghmac out of a crisis (onimo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:06 (thirteen years ago) link