official i love music thread for AEROPLANE

what's the last record with a bit of buzz that ILMers wanted to like* that went down in a screaming heap like this?

Maybe the most recent thing I can think of was Wiley's See Clear Now which had pretty high expectations after Wearing My Rolex and seemingly had no defenders whatsoever when it came out. That didn't have 18 months worth of build and anticipation though.

Plus Wiley puts out a new album every 6 months.

I haven't heard this but these days dance producers really get only one shot every half decade to put out an album and do it right.

They should put out a Misch Masch style collection stat.

i don't think xtina's latest album has any real defenders, bar a couple of tracks. m.i.a., maybe - it has its very vocal defenders but i still get the impression that most were disappointed by it. when see clear now dropped it was abundantly clear from the mark ronson and daft punk singles that preceded it that it was gonna be a dog.

They should put out a Misch Masch style collection stat.

Funny you should say that, Tiefschwarz were the other act I thought of, if anything they had an even richer selection of remixes under their belt, their remix collaboration was one of the best releases of 2004 and the album dropped and it was such a limp change of direction. That was disappointing rather than actively awful though.

Trying to think of great recent remixers/producers who have successfully made the transition to "proper" songwriters... Trentemoller's the only one who comes to mind right now.

Tiefschwarz was the first example I thought of where prolific DJ/remixers stumble in the transition to album artists. Black Strobe too - loved their remixes, but the album was full of horrible vocals and goth melodrama.

Equally, though, there's Rex the Dog who put out a solid collection in the vein of his singles (even including his best moments) and that just disappeared. It's a tricky transition.

Haha I quite liked the Black Strobe album, and becoming a proper schlocky goth rock band wasn't that far outside their comfort zone.

rex the dog did it about 3 years late, and his style was always one that was destined to sound dated eventually.

jacques lu cont fits in here somewhere - post-confessions he wasn't exactly trying to be an album artist, but he definitely fell off in a similar way.

I think mroe often than not it's a case of writer's block and overthinking things though - all of these are examples of artists who could churn out amazing remixes (that were mostly their own ideas) on a weekly basis but suddenly freeze and take two years to work on an uninspiring album.

JLC doesn't fit here, he just started working with bad artists with shit songs.

but in JLC's jesus period he did a ton of sow's ear/silk purse tracks - "mr brightside" for heaven's sake!

Zoot Woman's a prime example. I disagree that his remixes fell off dramatically. They became more generic but not bad. The Muse and Depeche Mode ones are fine.

but in JLC's jesus period he did a ton of sow's ear/silk purse tracks - "mr brightside" for heaven's sake!

Yes but Mr Brightside doesn't fundamentally change the song, just the arrangement, it's essentially a good tune that the Killers dealt with hamfistedly. He couldn't do that with the songs the Killers came up with on their third album because they weren't as good, and the likes of Frankmuzik just couldn't write songs in the first place.

In fact all of JLC's sow's ear/silk purse tracks are pretty much examples of fixing the things that are wrong with half-decent tunes. He should have stayed away from Starsailor though.

No the Starsailor remix is the most extreme example of awfulness --> brilliance surely.

JLC stopped trying I think: his productions (and remixes) for the Madonna album are basically the last time he really tried to pull out all the stops with that whole tsunami of sound thing. He's had decent remixes since (like his remix of Sneaky Sound System) but they're just not as all-encompassing sounding.

"silver screen shower screen" was pretty transformative

important point:

were the song titles on this actually PROPHETIC?

first of course 'we can't fly' -> they can not 'fly' as solo artists

'the point of no return' -> have they reached this 'point'

'i don't feel' -> many people seem to be saying '"i don't feel" this album'

'good riddance' -> now that they have broken up, many listeners seem to be wishing them 'good riddance'

'we fall over' -> are they saying they have 'fallen over' as artists

please discuss

Yes! It's a concept album about being shit! Brilliant concept.

I think Silver Screen Shower Scene is a bit different to the others given it's a remix of a certified club banger rather than a remix of a bogstandard bit of major label indie.

A+++

xp

ya but one that really changes the song in a way that remixes of club hits most often don't... it basically becomes a whole new thing.

his finest hour imo

i'm listening to this now and i really do not know what to make of this thing

'fish in the sky' just started and i liked the first 5 seconds and was like what's the big deal but then the rest of the song happened

'my enemy' kind of sounds like abba. 'save all your love for me'

'caramellas' -> no one 'cares' about the '(m)fellas' in aeroplane now

The new Milky Disco comp is out!

Listening to this album gives me the same creepy feeling I had when I saw the Vice guide to North Korea documentary.

this sounds like Goblin

a very disjointed album. the french, '70s obscurist, disco dancin, suspirial metaller part of me revels in this. But the sensitive, british, bullshit-detecting part of me's just fidgeted by intrusive vocals and wet wet wet guitar solos.
The first half, at least the first four tracks, are relatively familiar territory; there being relatively few tracks this year that I've enjoyed as much as We Can't Fly. Then I Don't Feel bursts in like Loleatta Holloway fronting the Jam, destroys the whole mood of the album thus far, and has a job trying to build it back up again. But it does manage, somehow turning into pure moments of hypnotic disco shimmer. It's pretty wobbly from then on - moments of ooh! see-saw with moments of arggh!! It's really not a terrible album at all, but with the hype around Aeroplane at fever pitch for a while now, I'm left questioning whether this is the best quality work they (now he) could have done.

ok WOW @ this ost & kjex album. i'm the type that tends to overstate things/get a little too excited sometimes, but i might like this better than the lindstrom & christabelle album! the production is effing amazing, and they actually know how to write pop songs! starting to think they deserve their own thread.

go ahead! i was going to but i hate starting threads on new artists, they always seem to end up in tumbleweeds

weird

http://i18.tinypic.com/6ki7x3t.jpg

xp, at least you and tim will show up for the party...

this new OST & KJEX album makes me really happy.

" late for the July Mix ! Trying to do something a bit different... Ripping vinyls ... Will be there by the week end ! All my apologies..."

perhaps everyone here is just behind the curve. maybe zane lowe really does know: "‎" Superstar " played by Zane Lowe yesterday on BBC Radio 1. Comparing it to Alan Parson's " The Raven " or " an heavy version of AIR " or even compared it to Muse !! With no irony I want to thank him for really understanding that song !"

also sounds like he's had it rough the last few days. poor vito.

Well, to get Alan Parsons' The Raven when you're expecting Proxy's The Raven is a bit of a stretch.

wonder if WOS will package the album with an extra cd of remixes, even if its just a limited run.
that way, its a guaranteed seller.

also sounds like he's had it rough the last few days. poor vito.

he does sound delirious

Second album will come out in a year and be a stone cold classic recorded on a tenth of the budget.

I can see this album being one of those that flops when it comes out and then gets critically reassessed a few years later. Agreed a remixes two-fer would make it more essential, a la LCD Soundsystem.

isn't it hard to license a cd of remixes as the copyright stays with the original artists or.. something? like the LCD 2-fer was their own work, and then a 2nd cd of more of their own extended 12"s of their own stuff/ early singles. i guess it'd be pretty easy if all the remixed artists were on the same label or what have you. i'm sure someone on here is an expert.

that's what i was thinking - even with the tiefschwarz misch masch, it wouldn't have had their kelis remix on it. plus now, a lot more than when the misch masch series was going, these remixes are already so widely available...

mungolian jetset packaged a second disc of remixes

Ulrich Schnauss's remix album omitted most of his best mixes so presumably there were a few licensing problems there. Either that or he doesn't know up from down. The Aphex Twin remix album, on the other hand, had about 95% of his output.

Did that Tiefschwarz Kelis mix ever come out? That would be the problem for Aeroplane's rejected MGMT remix. The way people consume remixes now, it's hard to tell which ones are official.

Isn't the Mungolian Jetset album entirely remixes?

there's a first disc of originals

afaik

No, only Creepy and Madre Epics Pt. 2 are originals. The others are ostensibly remixes but there's so little of the originals in some of them that they might as well be Mungolian Jet Set's own tracks.

ahhhh never knew that

Did that Tiefschwarz Kelis mix ever come out?

ah it was never official, just a white label a/c to discogs - http://www.discogs.com/Kelis-Trick-Me-Tiefschwarz-Mix/release/356427

i assume grace jones has changed her mind about the "williams blood" remix by now?