official i love music thread for AEROPLANE

Are they not on Eskimo any more then? As the Eskimo newsletters keep bigging up the album.

Or is it Wall of Sound are just distributing the album as they have a better infrastructure for doing so than Eskimo?

Wall of Sound in the UK, so maybe they're just distributing it.

they should probably pull this if they still can and try to release something good.

Yeah, if they pulled this, it might reach some kind of legendary status in a few years, which would ultimately serve Vito much better in whatever he does next. If they actually go through with a release as planned, only bad things can happen.

what was the aeroplane tweet? it isn't there anymore

Loosely paraphrased, it said: "Album has leaked, I've read some of the reactions...they are all awful..."

Poor Vito. :-(

I keep wanting to say - damn, it's not nearly as bad as you extravagant haters make it out to be. I was expecting way worse than what it is. It has its moments. It's just not what you were expecting.

k8 is right, individual tracks are total disasters and it's not a great album, but there's enough worthwhile stuff here. i've heard much worse.

though similarly to the xtina album, my expectations had been lowered substantially by the time the actual album emerged, so it's not like i was shocked that this isn't all up to the standard of their best remixes.

"After album leaked, I'm reading people reactions... They are pretty much awful..."

I will no doubt buy it, rip the 4 or 5 awesome to worthwhile songs onto my iTunes and disregard the rest (except for the one or two real clangers which will be saved for helltapes.)

Actually, I wonder why the Tweet was pulled? Phone call from someone from the record label maybe?

must have been.

Or maybe he saw it retweeted and copied and quoted a hundred times across the internet, and realised he didn't want to be perceived as whining or looking for sympathy?

It's easy to write things on twitter that can be easily misinterpreted and widely misquoted out of context.

yes, he probably just pulled it himself.

i feel bit guilty about slagging it now.

I'm sure it wasn't what Wall of Sound signed up for when they signed them either - not that that should be a consideration but you'd think someone close to the band would have taken them aside and said "erm, you can't actually write songs dudes".

Knowing Mark Jones at Wall of Sound quite well, I would say the opposite. He loves the chintzier side more than the club side, I think. And Vito had this album demoed before he was even signed to WoS so I don't think it came as a surprise to the label.

So what are the keepers here? I really like We Can't Fly, Superstar, Caramellas and My Enemy.

london bridge, i don't feel, without lies, my enemy

("caramellas" is fine but i prefer the og)

I'm warm on "We Can't Fly," but nowhere near hot. And the final track w/ ARS is okay. Other than that, it really DOES sound like a bunch of demos that the Scissor Sisters recorded for a laugh and then threw away.

I really like I Don't Feel but I keep expecting her to bust a "WOOOARRR CHILDREN!!!" at any second in that song.

Would be better if more of their songs had gone the disco diva workout (sorry, Dorian) routine. I mean, as much as I like the Paris remix and the Kilometre remix, my favourite thing they've ever done is Williams Blood.

It is amusing, though, to work out what the most o_0 awful song on the album is - on second listen, my vote isn't actually for that Fish in the Sky track but the hystrionics in Point Of No Return. Like, what on EARTH does the rest of the track sound like, to make that breakdown make sense?

i will say that i love "i don't feel" once it gets going but it could really use some form of intro rather than hitting you straight off with the RAAARRRGHGH disco vox.

"good riddance" is definitely in the conversation when it comes to the o_0 worst track

Is Good Riddance the Tom Jones one or the awful soppy Fleetwood Mac one?

Oh god no, now I'm doing it. :-(

I do actually have to hand it to them, that they have made such an *over the top* album. I mean, there's no halfway here. There's no way you can say that this album is boring, and that is quite an accomplishment. I mean, to be honest, a polite but perfectly boring "here is some nice polite nu balaeric beats" would have been a far worse result.

It is comically over the top and ridiculous, but it seems like sometimes that does actually work.

My two favorite tracks are the least confrontational ones. Maybe I'M boring.

And by favorite tracks, I mean the ones I'd consider not deleting.

"good riddance" is the tom jones one

and yeah so many dance artists end up making perfectly ok albums that you can't really remember any track on. this is...not like that, at least :/

stiff competition but i think "without lies" is the worst thing on here, it's embarrassing. a couple of the non-vocal tracks are okay but not great & caramellas was better before.

haha no i love it, what's to hate about it? "when i eat cake...i prefer the cherry"

yes, that!

apparently it's a cover of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFJMTQP8Ctw

and if that's really sky ferreira singing, that makes it even better

(have we IDed all the vocalists? merry clayton on "i don't feel", sky ferreira (?) on "without lies"...maybe the remaining ones would prefer to stay anonymous.)

Mark Hollis on "Fish in the Sky".

Oh no, wait, its the guy from Poni Hoax it's just that they sound exactly the same.

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I think the vibe I wish they'd gone for is something closer to the Allez Allez and Grace Jones remixes, kind of camp but still terrific and still really hands-in-the-air disco.

I think the only out-and-out keepers here are We Can't Fly and the closing track. My Enemy is okay but it feels a bit... cheap? Sort of Asda ad disco. Original version of Caramellas >>>>> the original. Saturday isn't bad, will probably give it another listen. Everything else can fuck off.

what's the last record with a bit of buzz that ILMers wanted to like* that went down in a screaming heap like this?

Maybe the most recent thing I can think of was Wiley's See Clear Now which had pretty high expectations after Wearing My Rolex and seemingly had no defenders whatsoever when it came out. That didn't have 18 months worth of build and anticipation though.

Plus Wiley puts out a new album every 6 months.

I haven't heard this but these days dance producers really get only one shot every half decade to put out an album and do it right.

They should put out a Misch Masch style collection stat.

i don't think xtina's latest album has any real defenders, bar a couple of tracks. m.i.a., maybe - it has its very vocal defenders but i still get the impression that most were disappointed by it. when see clear now dropped it was abundantly clear from the mark ronson and daft punk singles that preceded it that it was gonna be a dog.

They should put out a Misch Masch style collection stat.

Funny you should say that, Tiefschwarz were the other act I thought of, if anything they had an even richer selection of remixes under their belt, their remix collaboration was one of the best releases of 2004 and the album dropped and it was such a limp change of direction. That was disappointing rather than actively awful though.

Trying to think of great recent remixers/producers who have successfully made the transition to "proper" songwriters... Trentemoller's the only one who comes to mind right now.

Tiefschwarz was the first example I thought of where prolific DJ/remixers stumble in the transition to album artists. Black Strobe too - loved their remixes, but the album was full of horrible vocals and goth melodrama.

Equally, though, there's Rex the Dog who put out a solid collection in the vein of his singles (even including his best moments) and that just disappeared. It's a tricky transition.

Haha I quite liked the Black Strobe album, and becoming a proper schlocky goth rock band wasn't that far outside their comfort zone.

rex the dog did it about 3 years late, and his style was always one that was destined to sound dated eventually.

jacques lu cont fits in here somewhere - post-confessions he wasn't exactly trying to be an album artist, but he definitely fell off in a similar way.

I think mroe often than not it's a case of writer's block and overthinking things though - all of these are examples of artists who could churn out amazing remixes (that were mostly their own ideas) on a weekly basis but suddenly freeze and take two years to work on an uninspiring album.

JLC doesn't fit here, he just started working with bad artists with shit songs.

but in JLC's jesus period he did a ton of sow's ear/silk purse tracks - "mr brightside" for heaven's sake!

Zoot Woman's a prime example. I disagree that his remixes fell off dramatically. They became more generic but not bad. The Muse and Depeche Mode ones are fine.

but in JLC's jesus period he did a ton of sow's ear/silk purse tracks - "mr brightside" for heaven's sake!

Yes but Mr Brightside doesn't fundamentally change the song, just the arrangement, it's essentially a good tune that the Killers dealt with hamfistedly. He couldn't do that with the songs the Killers came up with on their third album because they weren't as good, and the likes of Frankmuzik just couldn't write songs in the first place.

In fact all of JLC's sow's ear/silk purse tracks are pretty much examples of fixing the things that are wrong with half-decent tunes. He should have stayed away from Starsailor though.

No the Starsailor remix is the most extreme example of awfulness --> brilliance surely.

JLC stopped trying I think: his productions (and remixes) for the Madonna album are basically the last time he really tried to pull out all the stops with that whole tsunami of sound thing. He's had decent remixes since (like his remix of Sneaky Sound System) but they're just not as all-encompassing sounding.

"silver screen shower screen" was pretty transformative

important point:

were the song titles on this actually PROPHETIC?

first of course 'we can't fly' -> they can not 'fly' as solo artists

'the point of no return' -> have they reached this 'point'

'i don't feel' -> many people seem to be saying '"i don't feel" this album'

'good riddance' -> now that they have broken up, many listeners seem to be wishing them 'good riddance'

'we fall over' -> are they saying they have 'fallen over' as artists

please discuss