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sorry michael, it's from here: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100722/mailbag1

just posting 4 the lols, i love mls

156, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 05:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Me too, which is why it irks me when people assume it is automatically terrible.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 06:07 (thirteen years ago) link

This is a few days old now, but in case anyone missed it...the most awkward interview ever with Thierry Henry about coming to NY

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/good_day_ny/new-york-red-bull-thierry-henry-20100719

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha yeah, the official MLS blog had that listed as "worst soccer interview ever".

Danny Dyer (dan m), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

it was awful i loved every second

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link

The cherry on top is the explanation of "Bronx Cheer", and the backpedalling that comes with it, LOL

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

ESPN had their own Henry interview the same day that proved not everyone over here is a clueless fool. That interview was conducted by Derek Rae and Shaka Hislop, of course. It also included a bonus Henry/Hislop head-to-head goals and results segment for the lolz.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

lol, apparently Kansas City sold 700 season ticket packages for next year the day after they defeated Man Utd 2-1 in a friendly.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

what it's all about tbf

"It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

All-Star game on ESPN atm. :D

VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 29 July 2010 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link

ok dan m or anyone else in the know, what the hell was going on with the coin toss before the game there?

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 29 July 2010 02:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess it determined which of the new teams picks first in the draft next year, Portland or Vancouver. Vancouver won I guess? Whatevs.

Team MLS proved tonight why this game is dumb. At least no-one got injured for no reason.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Thursday, 29 July 2010 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Kind of a downer, yeah.

VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 29 July 2010 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link

lolstars

Danny Dyer (dan m), Thursday, 29 July 2010 04:06 (thirteen years ago) link

All "stars"

"All" stars

VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 29 July 2010 04:17 (thirteen years ago) link

The list of Designated Players grew by one more in MLS Thursday, as the Seattle Sounders announced the signing of Uruguay World Cup veteran Alvaro Fernandez.

A 24-year-old midfielder, Fernandez joins Seattle after last playing for Universidad de Chile in Chile's Primera Division. He made four appearances for Uruguay at the World Cup in South Africa, starting the quarterfinal against Ghana and coming off the bench in three other matches.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't see why it's so hard to believe that people would rather go to a match, live, in a modern stadium, for as little as $15-20 instead of getting up at 6 AM to watch Bolton v. Wigan or Hull v. Burnley?

Tape delay takes care of the time issue, and it wouldn't surprise me at all for people to be more interested in the best play in the world (not just EPL, Euros in general) rather than the equivalent of Double or Triple-A with a sprinkling of fading stars.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Where is loujagz to defend lower-league play when I need him

Danny Dyer (dan m), Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

p ridiculous to suggest there are a lot of americans getting up to watch burnley, hull, wigan or bolton.

mizzell, Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Bascially, yeah, it's not "the best play" which is kind of subjective anyway. At the highest levels like Champions League etc you often get stifling defensive play which is antithetical to what most Americans would probably consider "the best".

As for fading stars... Did you read the thing about the 24-year-old Uruguayan WC team player coming to Seattle? Or the 26-year-old Mexican who tore it up for their nat'l team and in Greece before pissing off some Ukrainian oil billionaires and getting blacklisted? Thierry Henry is sort of old but he is not finished by a long shot. There is also a bumper crop of young American talent that is just starting to rise to the surface, and instead of immediately lighting out to Europe they're staying home and developing into great players in front of us.

The tide is changing in MLS, it's too fast and physical to be considered a retirement home much longer. The tactical sensibility is low across the board, true, but it's rising steadily every season. And, above it all: It's our league. It will never rise to be anything near "the best" without the support of the people who care about the game in this country.

xp I wasn't suggesting that they were! I was saying it's silly to think that fans of the game in this country would prefer watching those teams to seeing a match in person.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

The young MLS stars will (or at least should) move up to higher ranks - that's kind of what makes it a minor league. And if MLS refuses to let them move up to the bigger money in Europe, it won't have access to those players for long.

Fading stars - the Beckhams and Henrys - will continue to come over here for easier play and the American market. MLS will never have a level of play close to that of the top Euro leagues and I hope the league and its fans aren't pinning their hopes on that case. There's simply not enough money in the game.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I think even casual fans can distinguish between potentially boring but high-level play and lower-level play. Independent minor league baseball looks a lot like MLB - scores are roughly the same, etc. but it's not hard to see how much tighter the top-level game is in fielding, high-pressure pitching, etc.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Thursday, 29 July 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know where to start so I'll just respond to this:

MLS will never have a level of play close to that of the top Euro leagues and I hope the league and its fans aren't pinning their hopes on that case.

20 years ago there was no top-level outdoor men's league in this country and our nat'l team barely squeaked past Trinidad to qualify for the World Cup. Today we have a solid if unspectacular league and a national side that can play with any team in the world. Never say never.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm hearing rumors of Ljungberg to Chicago.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Friday, 30 July 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/415/facepalmby.jpg

Danny Dyer (dan m), Friday, 30 July 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Is it wrong to OTM yourself?

Danny Dyer (dan m), Friday, 30 July 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

loool
enjoy him

a peach tree (156), Saturday, 31 July 2010 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link

They do need a creative midfield presence but damn it I've spent so much time making fun of him.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Saturday, 31 July 2010 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i28.tinypic.com/2dtxhcn.jpg

a peach tree (156), Saturday, 31 July 2010 06:43 (thirteen years ago) link

mls can aspire to be the best league outside of europe. long term it's not so far-fetched. mls has a bunch of factors working in its favor. what's better at this point? nothing in asia. brazil, argentina, and mexico are the only leagues i see as being better.
argentina is one wrong step away from their peso being worthless again. mexico, the security situation is a deep concern, even if quality of play and quality of pay are still better than mls. brazil i know nothing about but you have to think they sell their future stars fast.

there's no reason why mls can't step into what could become a void. the idea that

There's simply not enough money in the game
is false. the pie can always get bigger. more people can come to games. tv rights can always fetch more money.

look at what's happened in colombia. the league is basically insolvent, checks are bouncing, and the players are bouncing from the league even faster. that's been to MLS's benefit. in the western hemisphere there's still a cachet to america/canada. players from el salvador or honduras whose families feel like europe is too far away, too unknown, will look to mls. your average nicuraguan parent of a future star, they don't know red star belgrade from cska, it all seems far away and foreign, but everyone has a cousin or family friend in LA or chicago. and if they stay long enough, hey, green card. have a kid here? s/he's american. MLS can be the main league for the caribbean and central america and canada and the US. that's a lot of talent. and mls can be attractive to pretty much any player. play in the right city and you have a social network of countrymen. no other league can offer that.

yes, the nearly-finished will still come to mls. and that's fine if it gets people to come out and see the game. i don't buy the 'quality of play sux so they won't come back' argument. i fell in love with soccer watching a team called Vegalta in sendai, japan. did i know how crappy the j-league supposedly is? no. i knew i could take the subway to a game, watch 20,000 japanese badly sing along to Country Roads, have a beer and cheer. A soccer-specific stadium in a city on a summer night practically sells itself, no matter how many red cards, no matter how sloppy the play.

i do think the washed-up former stars will get found out as the league gets better and better.

i'm gonna bet that we can all agree that MLS will be a feeder league for at least the medium term (15-20 years). but MLS has the chance to be the biggest and best shop window in the world, and there's nothing wrong with that. it's kind of awesome.

a peach tree (156), Saturday, 31 July 2010 06:57 (thirteen years ago) link

hear hear

Danny Dyer (dan m), Saturday, 31 July 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

the return of the NY Cosmos?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/02/sports/soccer/02cosmos.html

Danny Dyer (dan m), Monday, 2 August 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

fyi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6Di8QT98Zk&feature=related

pies. (gbx), Friday, 6 August 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

fyi

sega's back

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/7732/segaa.jpg

Danny Dyer (dan m), Saturday, 7 August 2010 06:04 (thirteen years ago) link

nobody watching usa/brazil?

iatee, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link

ugh

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

really not impressed w/ Borny or Bedoya

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link

feel like we started out pretty good, now it's just brazil having fun

iatee, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link

as I was saying...

iatee, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

so many players just standing still there, watching

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link

lol nike usa commercial

"I am a giant killer"

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

;_;

iatee, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link

holy fuck lalas is such a loudmouth

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:06 (thirteen years ago) link

jeez

iatee, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link

brazil having fun

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link

what do you know, offside

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link

argh

iatee, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link

charlie davies ca. summer 2009 would have blown right by that brazil d

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link

whats the score?

Michael B, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link


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