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Walking by myself down avenues that reek of time to kill

Euler, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link

It seems like many of these indie dance acts need to have this edgy/brainy quality in their music to sell it to the intellectual type of indie fans, who might have diffculties dealing with the full-on mindless/physical abandon of proper dance music.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link

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Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link

hey lets have an argument about if something is indie or not

and what, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

It seems like many of these indie dance acts need to have this edgy/brainy quality in their music to sell it to the intellectual type of indie fans, who might have diffculties dealing with the full-on mindless/physical abandon of proper dance music.

or maybe they just love both strains equally so naturally want to incorporate elements and influences of both into their sound, gaining and losing in the process. it doesn't mean shit that it's not as funky as James Brown or as housey as Todd Terry as a result.

i love how cleanly produced everything is

this is a potential nightmare (for me) but a bit of expansion on this might be interesting. what is meant by clean? is it just everything in it's place according to your understanding/preferences? it's quite easy to imagine Santogold in a 'lo fi' mode or with a 'messier' sound altho i'm not entirely sure what that would translate as now (more going on within each track/higher density + less space? more chaotic triggering? more abrasive noise/fx?)

blueski, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

or maybe they just love both strains equally so naturally want to incorporate elements and influences of both into their sound, gaining and losing in the process. it doesn't mean shit that it's not as funky as James Brown or as housey as Todd Terry as a result.

Well, it means they lose the interest of people like me, who don't much care for the "indie sound", but on the other hand win those people who don't much care for "proper" dance. I know several people for whom this is basically the only type of of dance music they'll listen to. Not that there's anything wrong with it, of course indie kids can have their own dance if they want to.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, it means they lose the interest of people like me, who don't much care for the "indie sound", but on the other hand win those people who don't much care for "proper" dance.

these 'disregard an entire genre/sound/whatever' people are weirdos so good riddance imho

blueski, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

You mean there aren't any genres you'd disregard as a whole? Like death metal? Or polka? Or MOR? Or gabba? I think people who like everything, and for whom there isn't any genre or sound they'd dislike are quite rare among us.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyway, I think one of the core audiences of "indie dance" is exactly the sort of people who'd disregard a genre/sound - in this case, "proper" dance - as a whole, and are only willing to accept in an indiefied form.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Like death metal? Or polka? Or MOR? Or gabba?

all of these are pretty dope tuomas stfu

and what, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

i disregard rave music

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

i am struggling with death metal tho i must admit.

blueski, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

But like I said, there's nothing wrong with it as such. I'm equally intolerant in my wholesome disregard for indie as a genre and sound. You gotta have aesthetic preferences in the endless land of music.

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Like death metal? Or polka? Or MOR? Or gabba?

all of these are pretty dope tuomas stfu

I didn't mean their not dope, but lots of music fans dismiss them as whole genres, and I don't see anything wrong with that.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

you (intentionally) picked very marginalised genres for your counter-argument anyway.

blueski, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think death metal is that much more marginalized than indie, at least not in Finland it is.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

*crowd goes wild*

blueski, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

For fuck's sake.

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

hey lets have an argument about if something is indie or not

-- and what, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 18:15 (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

^we should have done this instead

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I can see why this album is slightly difficult to place but yikes.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2589/458334849cc2b5293c2bim2.gif

and what, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Of course indie is more popular than death metal in Britain, its home country, but if you go to places like Germany or Spain, I'm sure you'll find more Slayer than Smiths fans there.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

slayer aren't death metal, tard

and what, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Britain has a claim to being the home of death metal as well.

chap, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I stayed away from this record for a while because I thought it was like Sublime or something (her name reminds me of "Santeria"), but I picked it up and it's badass. I can see why you'd think it's indie; the first track sounds like Interpol, but the record is all over the place stylistically.[/ obvious]

-- Euler, Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:45 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

n/a, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link

typically high-quality ILM musical analysis

n/a, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Another highly influential band, Slayer, formed in 1981. Although the band is a thrash metal act, Slayer's music is more violent than thrash metal contemporaries Metallica, Megadeth or Exodus.[31] Slayer is regarded as one of the most sinister thrash metal bands from the early 1980s[32] and are considered the ancestors of and directly responsible for the rise of death metal.[33][34] Their breakneck speed and instrumental prowess combined with lyrics about death, violence, war and Satanism won Slayer a rabid cult following.[35] According to Allmusic, their third album, Reign in Blood, inspired the entire death metal genre[36] and had a big impact on the genre leaders: Death, Obituary and Morbid Angel.[31]

Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link

thank you tuomas

and what, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link

thank you n/a I aim to please

Euler, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link

German Music Charts July 11, 2008

1 1 "All Summer Long" Kid Rock
2 2 "Helden 2008" Revolverheld
3 3 "Feel The Rush" Shaggy / Trix & Flix
4 5 "Seven Nation Army" White Stripes, The
5 4 "So Soll Es Bleiben" Ich + Ich
6 9 "Better In Time" Lewis, Leona
7 8 "Take A Bow" Rihanna
8 7 "Mercy" Duffy
9 6 "Bringt Ihn Heim" Pocher, Oliver
10 10 "Love Is You" Godoj, Thomas
11 - "We Made It" Rhymes, Busta Feat.linkin Park
12 11 "Fieber" Stuermer, Christina
13 13 "4 Minutes" Madonna
14 12 "Summer Love" Medlock, Mark
15 19 "No Air" Sparks, Jordin
16 36 "Can You Hear Me" Enrique Iglesias
17 15 "Wenn Nicht Jetzt Wann Dann" Hoehner
18 18 "Valerie" Ronson, Mark Feat. Winehouse
19 14 "Strike The Match" Monrose
20 20 "I'm Yours" Mraz, Jason

One White Stripes song. No Slayer. Indie it is.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Metal is an album genre.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

I listening to the "L.E.S. Artistes" remixes and they're this weird mixture of badass and unfulfilling. It's probably not a good thing that my favorite track on the EP is the instrumental of the original track, right?

HI DERE, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I like her record. "Creator" and maybe "Unstoppable" are the only songs that resemble MIA though. She's much more new-wave than whatever MIA is.

Inertia_90, Friday, 15 August 2008 02:52 (fifteen years ago) link

there's more pre-dancehall reggae in the mix, too

The Reverend, Friday, 15 August 2008 02:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah. Well, apart from Bob Marley, I'm not familiar with reggae, so I wouldn't know.

Inertia_90, Friday, 15 August 2008 02:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I need to clean out my ears or maybe I have another record cause I hear very little MIA in her Santogold. Hmmmmm

stevienixed, Saturday, 16 August 2008 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

lol she is opening act on coldplay tour

and what, Saturday, 16 August 2008 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link

well theyve used some of the same producers and have similar fan bases and aesthetics - their vocals dont really sound alike tho

ice crӕm, Saturday, 16 August 2008 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I really wanted to hate her and was really resistant based on some notion that she was an M.I.A. clone and I needed to stay loyal or something. But not only is Creator the only track that is vaguely M.I.A.ish, but it is also not really up there with the best stuff on the album. L.E.S.artistes is like the Police, but with a spacier, bassier feel.

I know, right?, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Dig that yelp, too.

I know, right?, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I was sure Lights Out being in the beer commercials would wear it out for me eventually, but it's only making me like it more when I hear it every 20 minutes.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

She has music in three separate commercials now!

lol (HI DERE), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I never complain about this type of shit, but I am v. sick of her Moby tactic.

The Referee (The Reverend), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link

lights out is incredibly good

Patrick Leahy (deej), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Top Ranking is pretty choice, huh.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah it's good stuff.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

"Get It Up" is fucking awesome. I want to listen to this one song on repeat forever.

Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Monday, 8 December 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm late to this one, but i'm enjoying "Lights Out" best - interesting vocal choice there. Yes she sounds like Gwen Stef and MIA, but it's much more informed by early 80s New York than anything else which is never a bad thing. Do prefer the punky stuff better.

the next grozart, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I am v. sick of her Moby tactic.

which would be?

akm, Sunday, 21 December 2008 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

how come no one stands up for "I'm a lady" on this thread?

akm, Sunday, 21 December 2008 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link


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