defend the indefensible: "kokomo" by the beach boys

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Aww, thanks for the praise, Kevin JB! Just babblin' along here...

2. Did the song appear on a non-greatest hits BB album at the time? If so, which?

The album is called Still Cruisin' and it's extremely obscure (everyone just bought the soundtrack, I guess). Several tracks are re-recorded hits and IIRC there's a version of Wipe Out "featuring the Fat Boys." There's also a decent Al Jardine song called "Island Girl" (nothing to do with the Elton John song), a really good song called "In My Car" (not to be confused with the solo Brian Wilson song of the same title), and a couple other songs namechecked by me upthread.

I'd be hard-pressed to say it's a good, recommendable record, but I have nothing but fond associations with it due to childhood exposure, etc...

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 00:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Does anyone know where I can get that lei'd in hawaii bootleg? I cant find it on soulseek or a torrent...

HELP

filthy dylan, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link

"Woke Up (and k)New (How Bad the Beach Boys Sucked)"

International Beach Boys Contrarian Blues

St3ve Go1db3rg, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link

We'll put out to sea
And we'll perfect our chemistry
By and by we'll defy a little bit of gravity

You can't write worse lyrics than that.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 03:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Does anyone know where I can get that lei'd in hawaii bootleg?

http://warnakeysbeachboysblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/hello-all.html

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 03:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I honestly didn't realize people disliked this song so much. It's fun! Probably like the most fun chorus ever!

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 04:01 (sixteen years ago) link

2. Did the song appear on a non-greatest hits BB album at the time? If so, which?

The album is called Still Cruisin' and it's extremely obscure

It is pretty much a greatest hits though: two new songs, one Brian offcut credited to Eugene Landy, the Fat Boys song which had been a single, three songs they'd done for recent film soundtracks, one of which had also been a single [ie Kokomo], and three non-re-recorded old hits.

energy flash gordon, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess the divide here is whether or not you had to withstand the song nonstop in 1988?

YES ... nonstop, and on "Full House" ... I associate this song with Bon Jovi's "Bad Medicine" because they were both inescapable and always seemed to be played back-to-back on the radio. The difference is that I can imagine a time in the far-off future when I might want to hear "Bad Medicine" again.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 08:29 (sixteen years ago) link

It is pretty much a greatest hits though

Well, okay, but a really weird one that has five recent, emphatically non-hit songs. If Magical Mystery Tour counts as an LP surely this does?

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I probably get Kokomo in my head inadvertently more often than anything else by The Beach Boys. I don't really get the deal about them. Good Vibrations is OK but I get the idea that Wilson was just a douchebag, creeping into his girlfriend's sister's room in the middle of the night and fucking her. Dirty man.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link

You can't write worse lyrics than that.

PAGING PAUL WESTERBERG

HI DERE, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Huh!? xpost

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

fucking weirdo

chaki, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link

This song was awesome on an 80 degree day walking through soho with a bunch of vice magazine types with it blasting distorted out of a solar powered radio on a banana seat bike

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

yah that sounds awesome :/

chaki, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

that sounds horrible! but kind of perfect for the song.

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link

calling a woman you are attracted to "mamma" is just fucking weird.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link

just because people dress like idiots doesn't mean they're not nice.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

calling a woman you are attracted to "mamma" is just fucking weird.

-- Tracer Hand, Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:57 AM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

That's racist

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

truth bomb-bitty

chaki, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.kathygarver.com/mlovet.jpg
"step off, mama"

chaki, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

(Q)- You co-wrote "Kokomo" along with the late "Papa" John Phillips. (In 1988, The Beach Boys had their largest sales hit single, titled "Kokomo." The song, "Kokomo" was a featured in the motion picture "Cocktail" and "Kokomo" really put The Beach Boys back into the international spotlight.
Mike Love- I did indeed. John Phillips came up with the concept for the song in the verse and then I came up with the chorus. (Mike Love begins singing "Kokomo".) That was my contribution. I changed two words in the first verse and I rewrote the second verse in a little less, half a verse. So it was a true collaboration between John Phillips, myself and Terry Melcher, who produced the song. "Kokomo" went to Number One in 1988. Now that song, really, we're talking had a multigenerational appeal. It really helped to rejuvenate The Beach Boys career.

dell, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I was listening to some tracks from his unreleased "Unleash the Love" recording from several years back. It's actually pretty good in parts. Plenty of the Kokomo-ish vibe, for those who are so inclined.

dell, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I really love this song.

jim, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, okay, but a really weird one that has five recent, emphatically non-hit songs. If Magical Mystery Tour counts as an LP surely this does?

Magical Mystery Tour is a compilation too! (if in LP form)

energy flash gordon, Thursday, 24 April 2008 04:02 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm pleasantly surprised that a thread that i started with at best a half-serious intent has generated this much passionate debate.

carry on ;_;

Eisbaer, Thursday, 24 April 2008 04:29 (sixteen years ago) link

and everybody's right, it's not like it's a big deal, it's just kind of an infantile thing to do and makes the people doing it look like fuckin morons, so i thought one of 'em might wanna know

gershy, Thursday, 24 April 2008 04:37 (sixteen years ago) link

that song, really, we're talking had a multigenerational appeal
that song, really, we're talking had a multigenerational appeal
that song, really, we're talking had a multigenerational appeal

St3ve Go1db3rg, Thursday, 24 April 2008 05:36 (sixteen years ago) link

so does anybody know where I can score an a cappella of this track

El Tomboto, Thursday, 24 April 2008 05:39 (sixteen years ago) link

right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyei99D1Mq8

chaki, Thursday, 24 April 2008 05:41 (sixteen years ago) link

ilx: solutions

roxymuzak, Thursday, 24 April 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I wouldn't have expected any better from Mike Love, but it was kind of sad to see John Phillips sink this deep musically.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 24 April 2008 23:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Best Concert Ever.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 25 April 2008 00:38 (sixteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

I think the objectionable thing about this entire endeavor is the transformation of the "Beach" in the Beach Boys' identity from a sort of plausibly "universal" (ie teenagered) conception of sun, surf, fun, and all that...through the wistful-but-still-adult-reconsideration-of-same ("All Summer Long," "Surf's Up" etc)....to this boomer retiree scenario of "I scored a great deal on a time-share!" [...] The threat posed by "Kokomo" is that it will ruin all those other, less commodified beaches of yesteryear.

I would add to the above that it also moves the Beach of the band's name from any beach, your favorite beach, the beach at Lake Lanier Water Park, whatever....to a private resort beach for couples on tropical getaways. Sort of implicit in the above, but the place-d-ness of this bugs me, perhaps even moreso than the decision to firmly re-establish the Beach Boys as a Hawaiian-shirted beach-themed novelty act instead of a band that could, in theory, sing about all manner of things.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 3 January 2009 05:48 (fifteen years ago) link

And yet I can't bring myself to really hate this:

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 3 January 2009 05:52 (fifteen years ago) link

i can practically set my watch by how this thread revives at opportune moments in my life o_O

Mad Vigorish (Eisbaer), Saturday, 3 January 2009 12:02 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

This is a bit of a banger, this one.

― Dom Passantino, Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:43 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark

you can't front on that

rip sarah silverman 3/19/10 never forget (history mayne), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 09:56 (fourteen years ago) link

this song reminds me of my grandparents' garage

bodacious cowboy (hobbes), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 10:26 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.sporcle.com/games/kokomo.php

I know all of you will get the first six but the last three are for KOKOMO PROS only.

skip, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link

i got eight/nine but call foul because it didn't allow the florida keys. smh.

rip sarah silverman 3/19/10 never forget (history mayne), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:40 (fourteen years ago) link

one of the first earworms I ever remember getting

ain't no thang but a chicken ㅋ (dyao), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:43 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

ok, this is playing on oldies radio. i realize it's a band whose popularity peaked 20 years before i was born, but still hearing a song released within your own lifetime on an oldies station for the first time is depressing beyond belief :(

The Reverend, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link

it's really not that bad a song

iatee, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link

hot sax

"goof proof cooking, I love it!" (Z S), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link

saw this performed by faux-hawaiian girl ukelele duo last week

green chunder (w/ sax) (haitch), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't have a problem with the song itself, per se, but hearing it inspires mental images of John Stamos and the rest of the Full House gang, which I'd prefer not to have.

― Pillbox, Sunday, April 20, 2008 2:57 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark

Yes! And then I want to smash those images in the face with a bat.

fuck ya law! (Spinspin Sugah), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 04:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Good record for playing at the wrong speed.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I have good memories driving down to Lafayette to see the Beach Boys w/ America at the Cajun Dome with my Dad. We played the Beach Boys Greatest Hits cassette that finished with some Fat Boys track and Kokomo. That was a good road trip.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 04:53 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Bermuda, Bahama, come on pretty mama
Key Largo, Montego
baby why don't we go

not surprising John Phillips wrote this

buzza, Thursday, 18 August 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

ten months pass...

The only piece you'll ever need to read on it

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/06/beach_boys_kokomo_worst_song.php

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 June 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link


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