It's the inevitable and long-awaited DAVID LYNCH POLL

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this thread must have started as a pilot!

latebloomer, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm starting to think the "quinoa" short on the IE DVD may be Lynch's most revealing work, esp. with respect to TP: FWWM. He basically making Garmonbozia (Pain and Suffering). The cigarettes, the attention to timing and mixing and material and darkness. The way he tells his assistant to tell him when to do things (paradox).

sexyDancer, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link

The Quinoa thing is great - I like that whenever he makes a gesture towards trying to show something to the viewer (like how much water to put in, or what the correct consistency is) it is actually not visible in the shot.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I like the ones without an id-like bad guy, so I like Mulholland Drive and The Straight Story.

Eazy, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Mulholland Drive was a good pilot and that the second season would have sucked.

da croupier, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I like the ones without an id-like bad guy, so I like Mulholland Drive and The Straight Story.

is there an id-like bad guy in Inland Empire...? There are various threatening figures, but that doesn't seem like the same thing.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Haven't seen it yet.

Eazy, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link

The bad guy in The Straight Story is Alvin Straight! He says it many times!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link

part of the film's irony is that this genial old coot was a fucking monster as a younger man.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link

The bad guy in Mullholland Drive is Naomi Watts! She's a hard, cold killer and crazy to boot!

sexyDancer, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I was gonna bitch about Eraserhead not getting enough love but then I rememberd mark s is repping for it so let the hollywood meta retreads with midgets get all yr love, whatevs.

da croupier, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:53 (sixteen years ago) link

the baby in Eraserhead=scariest thing ever

latebloomer, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

the phantom is the bad guy in inland empire, duhr

cutty, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link

i just remembered the cowboy in mulholland drive and love that guy

cutty, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

the phantom? who the hell is that?

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

surprised Inland Empire ranked so low here, given the posts

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:04 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.uneeda-audio.com/phantom/phantom5.jpg

latebloomer, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Billy Zane was not the vilian, he's a cool dude.

da croupier, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:09 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2001_Zoolander/Thumb/2001_Zoolander_207.jpg

W4LTER, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:12 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=phantom+inland+empire

cutty, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:17 (sixteen years ago) link

shakey talking with authority all over this thread and doesn't even know who the phantom is! ha!

cutty, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:18 (sixteen years ago) link

ha! ha!

cutty, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:18 (sixteen years ago) link

oh gimme a break I saw the film once and I don't recall anyone being repeatedly referred to as "The Phantom" in it sooooo sorry. wtf

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:22 (sixteen years ago) link

well, he's the phantom

cutty, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:25 (sixteen years ago) link

also not aware of any "talking with authority" I may have done on this thread (outside of expressing my own personal preferences, I didn't offer much) but whatevs

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:28 (sixteen years ago) link

blame Reagan.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah that's what i meant, personal preferences ;)

cutty, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Understand why Mulholland Drive & Blue Velvet won, surprised by the margin. Voted for Eraserhead, tempted to go with Inland Empire.

Bob Standard, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I knew it would be either MD or BV, and I'm totally happy it was the former.

Eric H., Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Shasta's prediction was true. Psychic!

Rock Hardy, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link

So glad I got in a vote for Eraserhead at the last minute, the relative lack of votes for it is an outrage.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link

wonder who FWWM fan is, i applaud you

cutty, Friday, 24 August 2007 00:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I hovered over FWWM briefly when I couldn't decide between MD and IE.

Eric H., Friday, 24 August 2007 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I haven't seen Inland Empire. I just put it on my queue.
Mulholland Drive is my touchstone.

Beth Parker, Friday, 24 August 2007 00:43 (sixteen years ago) link

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pbkhNabG3po

ghost rider, Friday, 24 August 2007 01:44 (sixteen years ago) link

not enough hallways u_u

ghost rider, Friday, 24 August 2007 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link

hahah

sleep, Friday, 24 August 2007 01:53 (sixteen years ago) link

i didn't see this but i vote eraserhead over blue velvet, just
i need to see inland empire again to rate it properly

sleep, Friday, 24 August 2007 01:55 (sixteen years ago) link

had i voted it prob. would've gone to IE

impudent harlot, Friday, 24 August 2007 02:03 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

can someone explain to me exactly what they get out of mullholland dr? i mean, i want to like it or at least get *something* out of it since lots of smart people seem to think highly of it, but i thought it was maddeningly pointless.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 13 April 2009 01:06 (fifteen years ago) link

mullholland drive had amazing naomi watts lesbian scene performance. the part where she's auditioning is pretty great. where has naomi watts acted better?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 13 April 2009 01:13 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost: And you liked Lynch's other work? Personally, I love MD most for its impressionistic dream logic. It isn't totally surrealistic, but it is off just enough that the tension lurking underneath is really jarring when it surfaces. There's plenty to love about the film, though, IMO, but if you plain don't like Lynch's style, then I can see why you'd want to shop elsewhere.

SORCEROUSES..roll on stage! (Pillbox), Monday, 13 April 2009 01:21 (fifteen years ago) link

J.D. - also thought it was maddeningly pointless.

(and yeah, I plain don't like Lynch's style fwiw)

iatee, Monday, 13 April 2009 01:27 (fifteen years ago) link

No, that would be Inland Empire.

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 April 2009 01:27 (fifteen years ago) link

(Terry Gross Voice) That was really great.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 13 April 2009 01:36 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah that scene is sort of the thesis statement. it's a movie about movies. there's other stuff jumbled up in there too, but if you're looking for a "point," it's about how art works (and movie art in particular). "don't play it for real until it becomes real." "no hay banda." the singer lip-synching a song about crying, with a tear painted on her face, but rendering the song in a way that inspires actual tears in the audience. the necessity of artifice in breaking through to something actual.

like in this scene, just try to keep track of the layers and reversals of meaning, how much it does with so few moves in just a minute and a half.

would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Monday, 13 April 2009 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link

i haven't seen every lynch film, but i loved blue velvet enough that i don't think i'm adverse to what lynch does. like, i like that the weird and semi-inexplicable elements in BV are balanced by the relatively straightforward plot, and i find the story and characters in that film a lot more compelling than the ones in MD. i guess the "crying" sequence in MD is as weird and creepy as the "in dreams" sequence in BV, but i don't find it as memorable because i don't feel any connection to the characters or care about the story. and so much of MD just seems so arbitrary and tacked-on — the whole subplot with the director, especially — whereas everything in BV feels necessary and vital and scary. i'm down with 'impressionistic dream logic' but i guess i just didn't get enough pleasure out of the surface of MD to care. i mean watts is ok i guess but does anyone think that she's as powerful and memorable in mullholland dr as isabella rossellini or dennis hopper was in blue velvet?

that said, i'm glad people are responding to this and i'll probably give MD a second chance eventually.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 13 April 2009 04:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Did Lynch get into that Transcendental Meditation stuff before or after Blue Velvet?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 13 April 2009 05:22 (fifteen years ago) link

not enough love for The Straight Story in this poll. would've voted for Blue Velvet myself though.
Dune and Twin Peaks are amongst the worst film ever though.

i thought Mulholland Dr was pretty cool, i always like art phenomenons that have websites with a zillion theories devoted about it.

Ludo, Monday, 13 April 2009 09:01 (fifteen years ago) link


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