Hatred of Itunes

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excellent; I see I do it using a little known doohicky called by the name of grab--thank you

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link

To answer the question as to why iTunes + Quicktime properly. When apple brought Quicktime to the PC, rather than recode Quicktime for the PC they coded large chunks of their basic APIs for intel/Windows and quictime runs on top of these. This makes coding cross platform quicktime apps a lot easier. iTunes followed this approach as well.

Basically when you install iTune+quicktime, you are installing a large chunk of OS X lots of the Carbon and Cocoa APIs), every update includes any updates and bugfixes to these chunks of OS X, I guess they figure it is better to reinstall from scratch every time than to patch.

It is a bugger though.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

itunes + library does NOT confuse things when it comes to filesharing coz it keeps a nice directory hierarchy too.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Dude, do you want it freaking out every time you download an mp3 automatically?

FOR FUCK'S SAKE DO YOU PEOPLE NOT GET THE IDEA OF METADATA?

folder monitoring doesn't have to be instantaneous! DO YOU NOT GET THE IDEA OF SCHEDULED TASKS

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link

FOLDER ACTIONS!!!!

http://www.dougscripts.com/itunes/itinfo/folderaction01.php

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link

does anyone use songbird?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

No possible defense can be made for iTunes run on a PC, it is so shitty that it must be a deliberate attempt to sabotage the PC experience.

Try using the Mac version of Windows Media player! That may be the worst "media" software ever.

That attempt, that Ned linked to above, to keep Apple from forcing ipod users to install TEH HATED ITUNES and KEEP THE ENTIRE HUGE IPOD PLAYLIST STORED ON THE HD EXACTLY AS IS is amazing.

Uh, you can manually move stuff to the iPod inside iTunes. USE 1 BRANE MORAN

If it ever comes to it, though, I think Apple would rather lose the entire European market than give consumers any kind of freedom.

Dude, you can still do whatever you want with all your DRM-free music. Do you really think the DRM music from anyone else is any better? At least Apple Music Store works on more than one platform!

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

oh, I forgot this:

Yeah really, this is total delusional talk. There are programs that fix your filenames for you, ie FileRenamer. Tagging is no more reliable than filenaming, and just confuses things when it comes to filesharing.

Did you read what I wrote upthread?
ARTIST: At the Drive
SONG: In-One Armed Scissor

BAD BAD BAD SOLUTION.

iTunes will rename the filenames and manage the folder hierarchy to keep it in line with the metadata store if you let it. There is no problem.

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link

the problem with itunes and "watch folders" is that when you "open" a file in itunes it imports AND plays at once.

You know, they ARE programmers. If this were to be integrated into iTunes, they could make it do it right :)

folder monitoring doesn't have to be instantaneous! DO YOU NOT GET THE IDEA OF SCHEDULED TASKS

That isn't folder monitoring. Monitoring is either instantaneous or happens over a very short cycle time via something like Linux's FAM. If you want the batch task sort of behavior, there's all kinds of applications to let you do that. Now, sometimes I am actually doing something intensive on my computer and I wouldn't want iTunes import to take up any memory or cpu (unlike you sad people who spend your lives in Word and complaining that iTunes is too hard) so I wouldn't want this kind of thing.

FOLDER ACTIONS!!!!

The problem with Folder actions is that the actions only register from Finder actions IIRC. This means that file transfer programs will not register events upon download completetion.

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

PS - canadians r dum

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

haha jon i am NOT arguing with you about mp3 programs on the internet

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

not when you can do it in person... over drinks!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey, I'm not the one flapping my mouth off about shit I don't know anything about!

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

i've created a monster!

My faxed joke won a pager in the cable TV quiz show. (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link

That isn't folder monitoring. Monitoring is either instantaneous or happens over a very short cycle time

haha jon that's not true at all! neither winamp nor foobar define folder monitoring as instantaneous or short-cycled; they're totally customizable. hence my point uptop that if you wanted to curtail the computer hiccuping every five minutes, you could set it to monitor every 24 hours so it functions more like a scheduled task.

i'm sorry that you don't think that's what folder monitoring is, but each program i mentioned calls that customizable feature "folder monitoring", as do most of these people.

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey, I'm not the one flapping my mouth off about shit I don't know anything about!

yes you are, you're talking about UI design, on which you're a completely incomprehensible and reactionary fanboy dimbulb for whatever program you're using that week.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Tom, you can't even program.

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

kill me

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost

come on, even you can see the futility of that statement.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Steve Jobs wrote iTunes by himself in his garage

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

NeXTStep is a good educational computing environment for the K12 market with a very low TCO and a low initial cost

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

the average user could care less really, (however XP's thumbnail view in OSX instead of iPhoto would be good)

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyway, the things I hate most about the software I like are almost all performance/stability issues.

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't like itunes ... it does not even support most formats I have files in.
foobar2000 for me, please.

clodia pulchra (emo by proxy), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link

yea, the lack of flac, etc kind of sucks

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link

somewhere in the first half of this decade or so Apple and Microsoft traded places, there was one company that wanted you to be able to skin cats however you felt like skinning them and another company that wanted you to skin cats exactly according to their protocol, and in the middle of figuring out how to best fit their niche in the market they decided to trade ideals and not tell anyone

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

and Jon you eventually have to realize that a lot of your angry, scornful rhetoric on this and the WinAmp thread comes down to thinkgeek t-shirt sysadmin boorishness to the tune of "if you don't know how to think like a computer then you shouldn't be USING one"

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I like iTunes best.

Maybe my brain is like a relational database.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link

(and not like some stupid directory tree)

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link

IT WOULDN'T MEAN THAT I'M WRONG THOUGH

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:40 (eighteen years ago) link

ok "you can't even program" is the gayest insult anyone's ever put forth in the entire universe. programming? take her, dude.

Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 00:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I still wonder what's going on in that alternate universe where Apple bought Audion instead of SoundJam.

The Equator Lounge (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 01:35 (eighteen years ago) link

People blogging about our universe

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link

on a side topic, has anyone gone over to managing their ipod with foobar? i'm considering doing so, not because i hate the itunes interface (although there are some things about it that really annoy me), but just because it's so bloated and slow on xp.

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 09:31 (eighteen years ago) link

share your technique!!

-- Tracer Hand

ha its not like i have something virtuoso crazy going or anything, like for the strays its

2006 >
+ random rnb
+ random rap
+ dancehall, riddim subsets, soca, oldskool
+ random grime > radio rips, sets, shop clips, rng
+ random random

big deal. if u listen to new music all day ur not fucking with well tagged business, and nor would i be able to work with searching for stray nobody artists i never heard of and might never remember again; alba likes to bust the pretence of being an organic feely starchild all about the music maaan but really itunes is far more set up for bitter shopkeeper learned id3 scholarship than winamp, which is a bit clunkier i suppose but still has a way more colloqial relation to the way ppl listen to music cos it bloody well reminds u ur listening to fucking mp3s on a fucking computer, whats that got to do with real life! like ooh, u can add poxy *starzz* to remember if u like something, how human! (this sort of totally fake 'feature' is 100000x gayer than any wonky ashley simpson skin on a winamp btw)

rtcotm (mwah), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 10:57 (eighteen years ago) link

r u a chav

R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

god, this new little update is stupid. when browsing, i'm used to having artist names and album names that start with numbers or special characters at the top. i dislike change.

andi, Saturday, 30 June 2007 13:12 (sixteen years ago) link

dislike change? steer clear of updates

Alan, Saturday, 30 June 2007 13:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Easy to say when you're sleepy and it says "hey, want to install this update?" and you click Yes Please instead of Leave Me Alone.

accentmonkey, Saturday, 30 June 2007 13:31 (sixteen years ago) link

How are they ordered now?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, 30 June 2007 13:39 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

it just ordered me to reinstall :(:(:(:(

will my playlists still exist?

it's a crapshoot.

roxymuzak, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:11 (sixteen years ago) link

what happened? just crashed?

stevienixed, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:12 (sixteen years ago) link

it said like "itunes can not run, plz reinstall itunes"

!

roxymuzak, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Tried something like gtkpod? I don't know what kind of computer you're using.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 13 December 2007 05:23 (sixteen years ago) link

my itunes crashed and i lost all my playlists. does anyone know how to get the itunes preset playlists back? i'm talking like "top 25 most played" and "recently added". is it in preferences or something??

J0rdan S., Thursday, 13 December 2007 05:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Are they bringing out a new version of this piece of shit soon or what?

W4LTER, Thursday, 13 December 2007 05:29 (sixteen years ago) link

my itunes crashed and i lost all my playlists. does anyone know how to get the itunes preset playlists back? i'm talking like "top 25 most played" and "recently added". is it in preferences or something??

-- J0rdan S., Thursday, 13 December 2007 05:25 (5 minutes ago) Link

they're smart playlists. you can make 'em yourself, using whatever criteria you want.

bernard snowy, Thursday, 13 December 2007 05:32 (sixteen years ago) link

oy thx b nard.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 13 December 2007 05:34 (sixteen years ago) link

meh still can't figure this out.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 13 December 2007 05:36 (sixteen years ago) link


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