Book Group: They're reading Helen DeWitt's "The Last Samurai" (nothing to do with the Tom Cruise movie!) over at Conversational Reading - Maybe we should do the same here?

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when do i need to get hold of a copy for? my 'current reading/to read' 'pile' would actually now reach the ceiling if i were to turn it back into a single pile, i have realised

thomp, Friday, 23 July 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

as long as I am able to get it i am def in.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 July 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link

thomp, we may wait till early September to start or slighty , but not much, sooner. have a look at the link in the first post, we may use that schedule.

jed_, Friday, 23 July 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm in for early Sept.

franny glass, Friday, 23 July 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

cool, let's go for that. any objections.

jed_, Friday, 23 July 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

wth i ordered my copy on monday and it still hasnt shipped

doubly infuriating since the used bookstore i ordered it from is literally two blocks from my house

be told and get high on coconut (gbx), Friday, 23 July 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

can you not pop round and be like 'hi, any chance i could pick the book up that you haven't shipped yet?'

a sharp minor (c sharp major), Friday, 23 July 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

don't think so---they said it was available online only, which probably means it's shipping from some warehouse in the burbs or w/e

still it is just weird/hilarious to me to mail order something from someplace so close

be told and get high on coconut (gbx), Friday, 23 July 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Just ordered a copy. I will be on dis ting.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 23 July 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

great.

jed_, Friday, 23 July 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

a copy of this is waiting for me at the library, so as soon as i finish up avoiding whatever it is i'm currently meant to be reading i'm gonna take a look. i don't know if i'll be in sync with everyone but i'm definitely watching.

Ok, got my copy. Spent the weekend at a wedding full of colossally pompous cvnts who liked talking about their cars and in general commenting on the world around them in the manner of people who feel they are absolutely right and life is a fvcking competition to prove you are the rightest person of all. (Bray if you agree). That sour-minded buffoon J Clarkson's evil spawn.

Talking about books is good. Bring it on.

Hide the prickforks (GamalielRatsey), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

My copy arrived this morning. First impression is that it's incredibly fragmented - every page I've opened is on a different topic and in a different style. I'll put it aside for now, but am ready to go.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 July 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I stalled 100 pages into this a few months back, after the missus raved about it, so this might give me some impetus to crack on with it...

Stevie T, Friday, 30 July 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

ordered; has not arrived yet; will not start, probably, until others do

thomp, Friday, 30 July 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

the UK ans UK editions have a different number of pages so we'll have to determine how the pages relate for the reading schedule. i commented on the conversational reading thread so hopefully Scott, who runs the blog, will get back to me with the info i need to find the UK page numbers.

good to have so many people on board for this.

jed_, Monday, 2 August 2010 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link

jed_, does your webmail work? sent you the necc info.

cis-dur (c sharp major), Monday, 2 August 2010 12:22 (thirteen years ago) link

some lovely ilxor just emailed me the chapter breaks etc for the US edition

user was cis-dur (i'm not sure who that is!) so thanks, mysterious stranger.

i'll look these out later and post the info, thanks.

xpost!

thanks c-sharp, i got it.

jed_, Monday, 2 August 2010 12:23 (thirteen years ago) link

my copy arrived. i then found a copy, in a box, at work.

thomp, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

got my copy

pies. (gbx), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

ditto. it's heftier than i was expecting!

ledge, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

does anyone need a copy?

thomp, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

i do.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

ok this is cheating but I'm 20 pages in and v v pleased already

pies. (gbx), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

have we decided on a schedule yet? i'm finding it physically difficult to restrain myself from reading this

pies. (gbx), Friday, 6 August 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

perhaps we could do the conversational reading schedule, but a month earlier.

the dialectic of specs (c sharp major), Friday, 6 August 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

ok this is cheating but I'm 20 pages in and v v pleased already

― pies. (gbx), Tuesday, August 3, 2010 6:28 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

:)

Seeing things like this makes me happy. But yeah, let's firm up a schedule, neh?

The SBurbs (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 6 August 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

argh I'll have access to this book in about a week, when I start my job again and have access to the library.

dyao, Friday, 6 August 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

so i'm like 3/4 of the way thru, guys sorry :(

i'll read it again, tho! i like it ~that much~

the gods must be farting (gbx), Saturday, 14 August 2010 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link

YAY YAY YAY. Honestly, gbx, it'll be good to have someone else reading it a second or third time. A lot of the structure of the book and the broader parallels reveal themselves on a repeat reading. It's a book that rewards close and frequent returns.

The SBurbs (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 14 August 2010 02:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Got it today. Read a few random pages and enjoyed it a lot; it looks very funny. Well, a month left, eh. The Conversational Reading pace seems dreadfully slow, but I guess it might allow people to get deeper into the sections. I'm no deep reader, but I look forward to following what everyone else gets out of the book.

Øystein, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

i liked the first five pages a bunch

thomp, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

need to get this.........

just sayin, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 08:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I read the first chapter, enjoyed it. Not having been part of a book group before, apart from the obvious (no spoilers, or hinting at things coming up) is there any etiquette that shd be observed, or any special structure to the process? At the moment just assuming it's a slowish chapter-by-chapter read through, with general synchronised discussion as we go along.

Hide the prickforks (GamalielRatsey), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 08:29 (thirteen years ago) link

We need to get our timetable finalised here.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 19 August 2010 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link

got my copy today!

? (dyao), Thursday, 19 August 2010 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

ok, shall we start september 5th or wait til september 19th to fit in with the conversatonal reading schedule?

i can see the benefit in both, i suppose we have everyone on board who is going to join in, we just have to make sure everyone who is in has the physical object.

jed_, Thursday, 19 August 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i'll definitely have it by the 5th

just sayin, Thursday, 19 August 2010 13:41 (thirteen years ago) link

cool.

jed_, Thursday, 19 August 2010 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I say the 5th. I want to finish Among The Believers first, but no need to wait longer than that.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 19 August 2010 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link

ok, starting on the 5th with a 4 week schedule rather than a 6 week one.

any objections to that?

jed_, Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah well I'm afraid I'm not going to find this but I'll be reading the comments w/interest. Probably revive the thread in a year or so.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

can't you get it on amazzzz___on?

jed_, Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I've never bought a thing on amazon (lammm___e, I know). Might get round to finally doing it.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 August 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

5th is fine by me.

ledge, Saturday, 21 August 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

xyzzzzz, email me yr address - tom dot west at gmail dot com

thomp, Sunday, 22 August 2010 11:40 (thirteen years ago) link

thomp - check yr email.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 August 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

can i just clear something up, since i've never really done anything like this, but if i set week one as 5th-12th of august, for example, does that mean we read the book during that week and post while we read - or read the book that week and post at the end of that week - or that we have all read the first section by the 5th and discuss it afterwards?

jed_, Monday, 23 August 2010 11:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll be off-internet for much of September, but should be able to check in once or twice a week. I'll try to drop in my thoughts on scheduled sections, but may not be able to get into discussion.

tetrahedron of space (woof), Monday, 23 August 2010 11:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I've never book grouped either. It's up to you I guess, jed_, though I'd favour the first option (reading the first bit during the first week of discussion) because:

- gives me a little more time to clear the decks
- allows posting in real time as interesting thoughts occur
- means the discussion isn't necessarily just backwards-looking
- spoilers are easily avoided by avoiding the thread
- whereas spoilers might actually be useful, if that's your reading style

(why must my iPhone autocorrect 'reading' to 'Reading'? It's very annoying)

Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 August 2010 13:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Yep, go for't

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 5 September 2010 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Is this book about Samurai?

I saw some trailer for the film once and I thought it was. But whenever I see a quotation from it here it seems to be about modern Britain or something!

the pinefox, Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Book Group: They're reading Helen DeWitt's "The Last Samurai" (nothing to do with the Tom Cruise movie!) over at Conversational Reading - Maybe we should do the same here?

jed_, Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

pinefox, the samurai are <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/books/00/10/15/reviews/001015.15goldbet.html";>the movie samurai serving as substitute father-figures</a> for the main character. the book is full of LANGUAGES and TRANSLATION, maybe you will think it is neat.

j., Sunday, 5 September 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

couldn't open that last link; clearly misread the thread title; think I have been somewhat misled by conversation at rare ILX FAP the other week where I thought all the ILB people were saying this novel WAS the same as that Cruise film.

the pinefox, Monday, 6 September 2010 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

whoops, here you go:

nyt review of 'the last samurai'

j., Monday, 6 September 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

come on board, pinefox. it would be good to have your input.

jed_, Monday, 6 September 2010 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link


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