― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link
MAYBE WE SHOULD STOP GAY MARRIAGE BECAUAES ONE DOESNT KNOW WHERE IT COULD LEAD
― gear (gear), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― ((((((DOPplur)))n)))u))))tttt (donut), Monday, 5 June 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link
Under the old monogamous system, we didn't have the problem of apportioning Thanksgiving and Christmas among your mother and stepdad, your dad and his third wife, your mother-in-law and her boyfriend Hal, and your father-in-law and his boyfriend Chuck. Today, serial monogamy has stretched the extended family to the breaking point. A child can now grow up with eight or nine or 10 grandparents -- Gampa, Gammy, Goopa, Gumby, Papa, Poopsy, Goofy, Gaga and Chuck -- and need a program to keep track of the actors. And now gay marriage will produce a whole new string of hyphenated relatives. In addition to the ex-stepson and ex-in-laws and your wife's first husband's second wife, there now will be Bruce and Kevin's in-laws and Bruce's ex, Mark, and Mark's current partner, and I suppose we'll get used to it. The country has come to accept stereotypical gay men -- sardonic fellows with fussy hair who live in over-decorated apartments with a striped sofa and a small weird dog and who worship campy performers and go in for flamboyance now and then themselves. If they want to be accepted as couples and daddies, however, the flamboyance may have to be brought under control. Parents are supposed to stand in back and not wear chartreuse pants and black polka-dot shirts. That's for the kids. It's their show.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link
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― J, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link
I actually agree with most of what you're saying, except for this. Marriage in the golden days of the 40s and 50s or whenever were the golden days were was not "about" children.
― Laurel, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Maria, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link
Not something I expected at all:
SAN DIEGO (AP) — Mayor Jerry Sanders abruptly reversed his public opposition to marriage for same-sex partners and revealed that his adult daughter is a lesbian.Sanders on Wednesday signed a City Council resolution supporting a challenge to California's gay marriage ban. He previously promised to veto it.The Republican mayor said he could no longer back the position he took during his election campaign two years ago, when he said he favored civil unions but not full marriage rights for homosexual couples.He fought back tears as he said he wanted his adult daughter, Lisa, and other gay people he knows to have their relationships protected equally under state laws."In the end, I could not look any of them in the face and tell them that their relationships — their very lives — were any less meaningful than the marriage that I share with my wife Rana," Sanders said.
Sanders on Wednesday signed a City Council resolution supporting a challenge to California's gay marriage ban. He previously promised to veto it.
The Republican mayor said he could no longer back the position he took during his election campaign two years ago, when he said he favored civil unions but not full marriage rights for homosexual couples.
He fought back tears as he said he wanted his adult daughter, Lisa, and other gay people he knows to have their relationships protected equally under state laws.
"In the end, I could not look any of them in the face and tell them that their relationships — their very lives — were any less meaningful than the marriage that I share with my wife Rana," Sanders said.
It's going to start coming down to this more and more, I figure. It'll be interesting to see what the reaction is -- Sanders is a perfect fit for San Diego as mayor (former police chief, Republican, etc.) and without knowing all the local dynamics I find it hard to believe any challenger in the next race from the GOP side can chip away at him on anything else *but* this. (Two to one Duncan Hunter is off banging his head against the wall right now.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 September 2007 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link