no boys allowed in the room!!!!

the feeldoe is a sex toy

the pee style is a little flume that lets you pee while standing up. apparently in the full monty there are girls who can do this just by pushing their vag area's forward? I never saw the movie.

there's an apostrophe in that that's confusing me

diva cup rules (i recently replaced my rubber Keeper with it! i feel like i've gone from 90s nu-hippy to 2000s modern eco-gal. lol advertising.)

feeldoe! i had no idea! wows

my immediate goal is to have my apartment not look like it's inhabited by a mentally ill rodent.
hahaha ohman. for a while there in winter when i was feeling down, i thought my place was crazy messy, but this is all relative, b/c i also visited other people's houses and the messyness was rat-style crazy to me. winter here is ridic! that said, i am watering a friend's plants while she's away for a week and her place is, er, chaotic. i really want to clean and tidy, but...

yeah, sorry... um their areas?

vag's areas?

i've been watching too much X-Files...

Varg's areas

vag area x

vag area 51!!!!

sigh - David Duchovny - had been totally ignorant of teh cuetness

Hips/pubic area...thing. I've seen the movie, and they do appear to be peeing standing up perfectly well. Remember they're aiming into a trough on the floor, though, not anything higher than that. I've certainly been in some bathrooms in my life where I'd have peed in the sink if I could, but at that angle/height it's completely impossible.

Laurel - are we gonna get on the topic of foot flushing?

Pretty sure every woman can do that but the aim isn't necessarily that great.

ENBB otm

Sarahel you know that I had a whole freaking thread on foot flushing, right?

yes!!! I hadn't even heard of foot flushing until that thread - then I asked a bunch of friends about it, and it turned out that my bf (now ex-bf) was an occasional foot flusher, and I had no clue! Like, we'd been together over a decade and it was like he had a secret life that was suddenly exposed to me.

ha!

I wish I could use a keeper but it's not recommended for use with an IUD. I know there are women with IUDs who have used them but I really really don't like the idea of risking it and ripping out my own.

it was kinda like in "The History of Violence" when Viggo's wife finds out about his former life -- I think we did joke about whether he was turned on by cheerleader uniforms after that, and he said no.

I only flush with my foot in public restrooms that aren't work.

xp. god I hated that movie

why did you hate it?

I liked that movie a lot.

Yeah see I didn't really that flushing toilets with their feet was something that anyone did ever until two of my old co-workers mentioned it and acted like I was insane for not knowing about it.

half the people I surveyed (i think it was only about 14 people actually) were foot flushers.

more male than female foot flushers - which could be because men's toilets tend to be grosser?

I have also been known to open parking garage stairwell doors with my foot.

xp I hated History of Violence because it was just not enjoyable for me at all. I am really sensitive to domestic violence and rape and it just was one horrible bloody nightmare after another. The only scenes I can picture right now are at the beginning where they murder that family in the drug store and then the scene where he angrily rapes his wife on the stairs and it seems like she starts liking it? While crying?? It wasn't bad enough for me to walk out of the theater but I remember being incredibly put off by the whole thing from start to finish. I have liked bloody and violent movies in the past, too- although maybe now I wouldn't? I think I am becoming increasingly more sensitive to this kind of thing as I get older. I can't watch any of those law and order shows.

I <3 the Diva Cup. I will investigate the feeldoe when I am not at work.

I have a lady friend who can pee standing up by manipulating her vulva. She was telling us all about it one night when we were out drinking and I decided to try it in the bathroom of the bar, but thank goodness, was overcome with a wave of good judgment. She recommended that I start practicing in the shower.

I am a foot flusher. I am also a borderline clean freak.

We're in the process of moving right now (the movers come on Friday) and my orderly, clean world is upside down and I am a leeeeeetle stressed about it.

Ugh, Peacocks, I haven't seen History of Violence either but that is pretty much why I have not particularly wanted to. I think my husband saw it and confirmed my suspicions that it was Not For Me.

VULVA! Manipulating the vulva. Yes I will have to practice in the shower, too.

xp I thought it was literally about THE history of violence, maybe a documentary? It was kind of a date too I think.

OK I may have to watch that again because I don't recall that scene on the stairs as being a rape scene. In fact, I remember it being pretty hot. :/

That sounds like a horrible date movie, unless I happened to be on a date with someone who was very turned on by hearing my feminist discourse on depictions of violence against women in popular entertainment.

my immediate goal is to have my apartment not look like it's inhabited by a mentally ill rodent

haaaa, I fear this shd be mine too, definitely familiar with the self-loathing feedback loop of putting off cleaning

thank you for all your bike tips! the way the local bikes and buses compete for a shared bike/bus lane is kind of terrifying to me so I don't think I'd even consider it if I couldn't think of a way to get 80% of the way between work and home without going on the road - but this route is a dirt path and unlit during early winter evenings, so maybe also not a good plan, but hey

can't find any council bike training, but I did find a local cycle co-op which claims to offer cheap training and cheap bikes (though it doesn't specify the prices, so, uh)

p-style is great for stand-up peeing in portapotties at jobsites/outdoor festivals. I can imagine skirt-wearing, but not trouser-wearing, standup peeing.

spacecadet, check to see if any of the local bike shops do rentals!

Just added History of Violence to my netflix because I wanted to watch it again anyway. Just found this quote from an interview in the Montreal mirror with the actress involved which seems to coincide with the way I remember that scene:

I pity the reporter who interviewed Maria Bello shortly before me. The misguided feminist apparently referred to the animalistic stairwell sex in A History of Violence as a “semi-rape” scene. Big mistake.

“I was so angry,” says Bello, the star of David Cronenberg’s most Hollywood effort to date. “I mean it’s unforgivable. If you look at the scene, we were fighting and fighting and then he starts pulling away ’cause he feels bad. So then I pull him to me because I want to fuck this person I’ve never met before, and I feel a desire and loss of control that I’ve never felt before. It’s a huge turning point for my character. So for someone to even allude to that as rape is just stupidity.”

It’s especially frustrating for Bello because of the efforts made with co-star Viggo Mortensen before shooting the scene to ensure that the choreography couldn’t be misconstrued.

Not trying to start any big discussion on that movie btw (sure there is probably a thread for it anyway) just thought that quote was interesting.

ENBB: clearing shit up.

yeah, i didn't read it as rape at all - i also thought it was pretty hot.

lol. I can totally see how someone would be disturbed by that scene. Sex + violence is a combination that will always be disturbing at least on some level. Like everything it's open to interpretation and will effect everyone differently. I just thought it was interesting to see what Maria Bello had to say about it.

the lol there x-post to Kate btw

that sex scene just didn't strike me as particularly violent ... like it seemed very much an emotional tension leading to sexual release kinda thing.

Apparently a lot of ppl thought that was a semi-rape scene and in retrospect I can see where that stems from. I just find it really interesting that the same scene can cause such different reactions in ppl. You know?

It's been too long for me to remember real details but I think that's sort of what I thought too well other than "damn, that's some hot stair fucking".

yeah - it makes me wonder what their sexual histories are like - not saying that the rape/semi-rape reading is "wrong"

Me & the ex-bf would watch Cronenberg movies in the way that other couples watch porn as a "marital aid" - sorry if that's TMI.

. . .

;)

Not to be all womyn's issues message board on anyone, but I'm uncomfortable with questioning anyone's sexual history because they read a sex scene differently. If you allowed that, you could also say that anyone who works in rape crisis or counseling or agitates for greater awareness/protection must have been raped because they have particular empathy for the victims, or something equally illogical. It just doesn't follow and I don't like the direction of "She's more (read 'overly') sensitive because she's a victim/survivor/whatever."

oh, no, I wasn't even thinking of sexual histories in terms of experience/work with domestic violence at all! I was thinking primarily in terms of practices (like someone that is into bdsm might read it differently than someone who hasn't done that), or duration of relationships, or ways of relating with their partners - like, have they had the experience of getting in an argument or dealing with a traumatic event and then having sex.

Okay, fine! Just me being over-sensitive, then. Nothing to see here.

No, you're not being over-sensitive at all - I realize that what I initially said was ambiguous.

I thought she meant the sexual histories of the characters. Whoops. Yes Laurel, I agree with you 100%.

Consent is instrumental to BDSM, though.

My perspective was that I was very uncomfortable with that scene. It was ambiguous enough with regards to consent that it seemed like it could be rape. But I don't remember the context well enough to be able to consider it beyond my memory of my reaction to that scene.

spacecadet, aren't you in oxford? </.xls> i'm moving there sept/oct -- seriously, if you haven't learnt by then i'll set you loose on my bike (i am q short, the saddle can be raised if necessary).