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I don't have an amiga, but can probably make one up from all the bits lying around my desk!

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

jon, i leave in two weeks.

― m@p (plosive), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

If you can get access to a student in the uk, you'll get it cheaper, and get three year warranty as standard, which is free apple care essentially.

duty free shipping sounds a bit dubious, are you sure on that? My american pal imported her mac and had to pay huge duty.

― stet (stet), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you allowed to advertise for access to a student?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

my sister is a student so i'll get the discount here too. might spring for extended applecare as well -- it still works out to be way more cost-effective if i do.

the duty free shipping is courtesy one of those intercontinental shipping companies that specialize in entire house moves. i asked repeatedly about the vat and they assured me it'd be fine.

― m@p (plosive), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

re: the 24" imac, how important is the video card upgrade? i've got a g.c. at a bricks and mortar apple dealer and would prefer to buy from them, but a model with 256megs video memory is apparently going to take a few weeks to arrive, which is time i don't have. if i'm mostly going to be using it as a media center, does it really matter?

― m@p (plosive), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

it totally doesn't dude.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 January 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

unless you're planning on creating and rendering your own 3D graphical entertainments for your amusement, and that's what you mean by media center.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 January 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160073232436

― am0n (am0n), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Q: this is not the iphone so take this off before i report you... lol i cant believe you would even try to sell this off as a iphone it says right on the...more
Jan-12-07
A: Thanks- for you the price just increased.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

hahahahaaaaa

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

unless you're planning on creating and rendering your own 3D graphical entertainments for your amusement, and that's what you mean by media center.

Does Coyote Nate play second life???

I guess I should get it.

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Does the educational discount apply to refurbs?

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

it seems not

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

no.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

It does support exchange, if the admin turns on IMAP support.
-- Ed
Which non of them ever do...

-- you win again, gravity!

haha, so true. in fact, we had imap on on ours but our Mac person made them turn it off so none of us could use Mail.app to check our mail, he wanted everyone to use sucky Entourage. But he's a faddy gadget freak, I'll bet that port opens up the second he gets an iphone.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

all the demos out there seem to insist on scrolling as the only way to get to both contacts and songs... I hope that's not the case because even though the scrolling seems well implemented and v fast I'd like to be able to jump straight to a contact... can you only operate it w/two hands too??

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

that is, how easy is it to operate one-handed d'you reckon?

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Voice recognition would be handy here, right?

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know if you'll be able to put porn on it w/o 3rd party app support cozen.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, because no websites accessible in mobile safari have porn on them

― mh. (mike h.), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

hope they get flash ported to it for pornotube *fingers crossed*

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I think .flv is precisely why they will avoid doing it, even through Quicktime. I think AJAX is as good as we will get.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

people will be pissed if there's no flash

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:32 (seventeen years ago) link

there's existing mobile devices with flash but i dont think many support flv

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

ya i thought the whole thing is that it can display web pages AS THEY REALLY ARE not just wap versions--this would eliminate a shitload of them.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:34 (seventeen years ago) link

yea, any page that uses flash as a necessary page is a load of shit!

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:37 (seventeen years ago) link

indeed, AJAX produces better, more functional pages than flash, maybe this is what Apple is pushing. It is not unlike them to decide which is the best technology and, for better or worse, try and make everyone else conform.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:40 (seventeen years ago) link

he wanted everyone to use sucky Entourage

Gawd, what a freak.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Even the exchange implementation in Mail.app is better than entourage and that is not much.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/01/iphone_mockups.jpg

― TOMB07 (TOMBOT), Sunday, 14 January 2007 00:59 (seventeen years ago) link

they should make it liek the real shuffle: you should only be able to see one icon!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 14 January 2007 07:02 (seventeen years ago) link

it only dials on random, if you don't like the person it called, you go to the next person.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 14 January 2007 07:34 (seventeen years ago) link

But it won't store the entire New York City phonebook! Useless.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 14 January 2007 23:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i ordered my new mac this wknd :)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 14 January 2007 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

It does run Flash, apparently.

― stet (stet), Monday, 15 January 2007 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, I'm going to buy a decked out 24" iMac soon to replace my aging powerbook 12" as my home desktop. Anyone want to convince me to get a MacPro? Will I feel the hurt with only 3 gigs of RAM in 3 years? Am I really going to miss having a 3ghz machine for some lameo dual boot gaming?

― UART variations (ex machina), Friday, 19 January 2007 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

are you gonna do anything intense on it besides gaming?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 19 January 2007 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I got a Mac Pro, but I already had a pair of 20" cinema displays and I don't like the iMac premium (laptop performance, no laptop perks, laptop priced). The Pro is nice enough and I appreciate the power and RAM when I run CS2 and Aperture together.

Extra bonus - $200 worth of HDs from NewEgg take care of any potential storage I might need for years.

― milo z (mlp), Friday, 19 January 2007 23:49 (seventeen years ago) link

are you gonna do anything intense on it besides gaming?

Massive amounts of multitasking + software development + some dvd ripping / video stuff. I push my first gen intel iMac at work (with 2 gigs of ram) to the point of thrashing quite frequently

― UART variations (ex machina), Friday, 19 January 2007 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i have been lusting over the 24" iMac at the bookstore for weeks now. jealous.

― attack all monsters (skowly), Friday, 19 January 2007 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Milo, yea, I figure I'll stick with external disk enclosures for my bulk storage, maybe go to a RAID eventually. It seems like to match or surpass the specs for the iMac I'm looking at in a MacPro, I'd need to spend an extra $400 before even considering a display.

― UART variations (ex machina), Friday, 19 January 2007 23:53 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe you should go for a pro dude. you sound like a power user to me.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 19 January 2007 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Is the Xeon worth anything like that sort of premium? I know v. little about intel chips.

― stet (stet), Saturday, 20 January 2007 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

That's what Apple wants me to think!!! xpost

― UART variations (ex machina), Saturday, 20 January 2007 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/26/35582395_55c764e4ec.jpg

― UART variations (ex machina), Saturday, 20 January 2007 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

The Xeon chip itself isn't that much superior to any other Core 2 processor (FSB, mostly), and what advantages it has are negated by the expensive FB-DIMMs... but you get twice as many cores.

― milo z (mlp), Saturday, 20 January 2007 01:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I've got a 23" cinema display, so I've been assuming I'd get a Pro at the next bump (probably about a year from now), but the thought of a 17" or 20" iMac with a second display is interesting.

Anybody know the lifespan of an LCD? This one is about 3.5 years old.

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 20 January 2007 03:53 (seventeen years ago) link

usually about 3.6 years?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 20 January 2007 06:04 (seventeen years ago) link

opinions?!?!

― UART variations (ex machina), Sunday, 21 January 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

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