Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

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beverley all alone on enterprise

possibly my favorite tng episode!!! best part is when its just her and jean luc!

UART variations (ex machina), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Deep Space 9 underrated.

I think you need to watch it in order from the beginning. About the only thing that could get me to do this is a roomie with a box set

UART variations (ex machina), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:28 (seventeen years ago) link

tng headfuck episodes (beverley all alone on enterprise, riker all alone in some crazy delusional state of mind) are best trek ever.

-- ledge (tomdotledge...), January 21st, 2007. (ledge)

also see TIME LOOP episode, EYES IN THE DARK episode, RECREATE FREAKY CHAIR episode

69 (plsmith), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Set phasers to DIE DIE DIE!! on Star Trek: Voyager (and everything after)

fandango (fandango), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I tried to write a Trek = Marvel post (Classic has Lee/Kirby charm, early TNG veers between the worst Gary Friedrich and the best Roy Thomas), but bailed out because I never watched after TNG.

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:33 (seventeen years ago) link

There must have been about a million tng time loop episodes!

Just came across this in a, ahem, beverly crusher article on wikipedia:

Sub Rosa - Attends her grandmother's funeral and spends time in her haunted house, falling in love with a ghost.

Ok clearly there was good headfuck and bad headfuck.

ledge (ledge), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:40 (seventeen years ago) link

True Q - Befriends and mentors a young girl who is developing omnipotent powers. She is turned into a dog in this episode.

The banality of episode summaries

ledge (ledge), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

If Trek = Marvel does that make Star Wars DC?

Anyway, that means ENTERPRISE = ULTIMATES?

UART variations (ex machina), Monday, 22 January 2007 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link

yes and yes

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Monday, 22 January 2007 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i kind of love star trek but only through TNG and I didn't bother with the last two movies. what I saw of enterprise was so bad, so was voyager. ds9 seemed alright but i don't want to ahve to watch something all the time and keep track of a story arc and a plot and be all serious when it's STAR TREK, you know.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 22 January 2007 02:43 (seventeen years ago) link

DS9 was consistently good, never really liked the others (but the occasional mindfuck episode was worth watching). Voyager and Enterprise didn't even look good enough to try.

milo z (mlp), Monday, 22 January 2007 02:45 (seventeen years ago) link

There aren't even enough nerds out there seeding for me to get to 100% on these Enterprise episodes that are trickling my way. It must be shit.

stet (stet), Monday, 22 January 2007 02:46 (seventeen years ago) link

"Shit" is pretty kind, when talking about Enterprise. The Vulcan and the Doctor were ok, the rest of the cast was terrible. The premise was stupid and the scripts were worse.

Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Monday, 22 January 2007 02:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I kinda liked the premise of a Star Trek before all the tech shit actually worked, so they couldn't just redirect a tachyon pulse through the flux capacitor (hey, that might just work!) and nobody would trust the transporter. But it didn't turn out like that, it seems.

Oh: Wil Wheaton is blogging his way through TNG episodes.

stet (stet), Monday, 22 January 2007 03:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I am glad to see the love for the TNG headfuck episodes. A couple of those ones still give me the creeps just reading these five word summaries.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 January 2007 03:20 (seventeen years ago) link

8:15 am. I am posting links on the internet about Klingons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon#Change_in_appearance

jel -- (jel), Monday, 22 January 2007 08:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Best TNG is the one with jean luc having the shit kicked out of him by a romulan for 45 minutes, "THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS" and all that.

Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 22 January 2007 08:58 (seventeen years ago) link

NOT ROMULAN, CARDASSIAN!

Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Monday, 22 January 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i love TNG

feed latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 22 January 2007 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Ugh, I just met yer real Trekkie at the DVD shop's SUPER CLOSING DOWN SALE. I found Wrath of Khan for £2, and at the till was reading the box of TNG Season 4 when this wee baldy 40-something dude in specs and an anorak sidles up to me.

Lispy, soft pedo-voice: "ooh, the best theason of all, that!"
"The borg ... the borg! And at the thame time, deirdre wath kidnapped. Coronation thtreet [shitty UK soap] fanth were crying about Deirdre and did you thee uth crying about Picard going to the Borg? No!"

Me: "Big crossover between Coronation Street fans and Trekkies then, is there?"

He tharthed on an angry reply then yelped "OH MY GOD! OH. MY. GOD. THAT CAN'T BE! IT IS! OH MY" and started jumping on the spot. At a Knight Rider all-seasons box set.

I was kinda embarrassed to buy Wrath of Khan, then.

stet (stet), Monday, 22 January 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

star trek VI is the best one

^^^controversial but true

say it with blood diamonds (a_p), Monday, 22 January 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

that looks like i'm quoting someone but it's really just me hoping someone expressed that view upthread, i haven't read much of it

say it with blood diamonds (a_p), Monday, 22 January 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

ST VI = first movie i can remember crying at the end of (and all i remember about it is kirk making his big sad "this is the last voyage of the starship enterprise" speech at the end - i barely even remember the plot, apart from it having something to do with making peace with the klingons). i don't know how proud i am of that.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 08:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeh, cardassian, whatever. I haven't seen it for a few years, all the bumpy forehead bad guys merge into one. Ferengui (sp?) were just dwarf Klingons, really. (at least they are in my head)

Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 09:02 (seventeen years ago) link

what was the one where riker had multiple realities (not the one in a mantal hospital). i dunno maybe there were loads of rikers, something like tyhat

Carl Taylor (688), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 09:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Very dud, for the most part. The only episodes that were ever interesting to me were the one's that palyed with the idea that the Federation has to do some seriously dark and nasty shit to keep their bright and cheery utopia going

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Stone Monkey would love the DS9 episode I cited upthread.

Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Enterprise is so unbelievably bad - they're re-running them from the beginning on Sci-Fi channel and the writing, the casting (excepting the Dr, as noted!), the entire premise and tone is just WRONG WRONG WRONG.

Kirby/Lee = OST is a nice analogy tho, I like that. For me it goes OST>>Wrath of Khan>>Star Trek VI>the better TNG episodes>all the other movies>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything else

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 00:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that multiple realities one had a whole bunch of Worfs (Worves?), not Rikers.

The Yellow Kid (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 03:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Ferengui (sp?) were just dwarf Klingons, really.

I gather they were meant to be 20th century humans.

The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 10:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Does anyone else find that when watching TNG they are waiting for Picard to say "But it would be too late - I'd have seen everything"

The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 13:21 (seventeen years ago) link

"Ferengui (sp?) were just dwarf Klingons, really."

I've always felt there was this weird Ferengi = Bad space Jews/Vulcans = Good space Jews subtext goin on

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

This thread makes me want to reach for my agonizer.

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

set phasers to KILL

feed latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the fun bits of undergrad life was seeing Leonard Nimoy brought to ann arbor to speak by Hillel or somesuch about "Spock in the Diaspora". The part about the hefty ticket price wasn't as much fun.

oh neat, here's the campus newspaper bit about it. It happened 10 years ago next week.

kingfish moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

yea i know there was one with loads of worfs, but there was a weirdo one with riker too, maybe there werent loads of rikers, but he kept reappearing in weird placees, i cant rememebr

Storefront Church (688), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Multi-Riker, while he was still a lieutenant before he made Cmdr on the Enterprise-D, was caused by a transporter accident on an away mission that doubled him into two Rikers, one that made it back to his ship and the other stranded on a deserted planet for X years. Tom Riker made one more cameo in DS9, the Trek aficionado's favorite series.

The "multi Worf" episode is when he trips some quantum singularity whatsit and he travels through a whole buncha different quantum realities, one of which includes a reality where the Borg had killed Picard and overran the Alpha Quadrant and the Federation is almost dead!!!

c(,,c) (Leee), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone see the EVIL Enterprise episodes? That series was pretty much complete garbage but the evil episodes were great, they even changed the theme music, thus making the show a great deal better.

mh. (mike h.), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I've always felt there was this weird Ferengi = Bad space Jews/Vulcans = Good space Jews subtext goin on

RASCIST!

The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

There's also that one where Riker wakes up and it's like 20 years in the future...oh wait, it's all a Romulan trap....or is it?

The Yellow Kid (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember that one because I'd never heard "charade" pronounced that way before.

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

There's also that one where Riker wakes up and it's like 20 years in the future...oh wait, it's all a Romulan trap....or is it?

Love that one!

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

st:tng on during the week here (mornings, like 10:30am) and the original series starts again on saturday at midnight, odd times. just watched tng, wesley falls in love, turns out to be a seven foot alien. that'll teach him.

Koogy Bloogies (koogs), Saturday, 27 January 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Love that one!

Yeah, that's a good one. Not as much impact as the constant shattering sane/insane episode but still.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 27 January 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I am going to see Patrick Stewart on Thursday, in Antony and Cleopatra! I am unreasonably excited. That is all.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 27 January 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe he will sneak in on Cleopatra having a bath, and then say "No point trying to cover yourself, my dear - I've seen everything."

The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 27 January 2007 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't want that to happen.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 27 January 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Ho, ho, ho!
Now the witch take me, if I meant it thus!
Grace grow where those drops fall!
My hearty friends,
You take me in too dolorous a sense;
For I spake to you for your comfort; did desire you
To burn this night with torches: know, my hearts,
I hope well of to-morrow; and will lead you
Where rather I'll expect victorious life
Than death and honour. Let's to supper, come,
And drown consideration. Ensign, make it so!

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 27 January 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
two things:

was watching TOS yesterday and Zephram Cochrane was in it (alone on a planet with only an amorphous blob of light for company). i know he also appeared in enterprise and one of the films but was he ever in the others? or only mentioned by name.

and also Geordi was Kunta Kinte in a previous life. wtf? (amusingly the sequel to Roots was called 'Roots: The Next Generations')

koogs, Monday, 2 April 2007 10:39 (seventeen years ago) link

SIMONTRIFE: captain, dr crushers brother has died on VIETNAM 7

Ronan, Monday, 2 April 2007 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link


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