― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:50 (nineteen years ago) link
i am still basically a great big pretender when it comes to that kind of pop music i.e. 'oh this is a great song, i hated it at the time but now...well actually i don't own it, wouldn't dance to it and wouldn't put it in my personal top 100 of the decade actually, hmm'
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:56 (nineteen years ago) link
Take That can also fuck off.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:57 (nineteen years ago) link
I was actually just amazed they hadn't been mentioned at all in either positive or negative terms, considering how they completely dominated the mid-90s in the UK (Take That) and worldwide (Spice Girls).
Never Forget is the best Take That song. Back For Good can fork off.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link
It's not real indignation, its faux-indignation in case you hadn't guessed.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link
East 17 are entirely without merit.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link
STAY NOW!!!
(sleigh bells)
Baby if you've got to go away
Don't think I could take the pain
This is the best "not actually a christmas song, but we'll add sleigh bells" song ever
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link
hmm..let's see...one Arab Stap record, listened halfway through and currently in the pile of CDs I'm thinking about trying to part with.
I must have at least five ABBA records. So...is the hypothesis of the test flawed, do you think?
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:57 (nineteen years ago) link
Why is there no Best Of East 17 out?
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link
hello dear. um, not quite. i'm whinging about indie because it's not as good as it used to be ;)
I see. You liked their early stuff better...
No, it wasn't you. You don't whinge, you complain in a mildly sardonic manner (or a less-mildly sardonic manner sometimes...)
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link
james blount will you please stop trying to be robin carmody - you are not as good at it as him (and that's not presupposing i like anything he says much). also you make a total ass of yourself when you make sweeping statements about a whole nation such as "british people don't have any truck with hip hop", especially after insisting that dizzee/grime artists *are* hip-hop. what? only white people allowed to be british in your eyes?
― stelfox, Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 18 November 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
-- Jaunty Alan (AlanTrewarth...), November 18th, 2004 1:55 PM. (later)
this is the truest thing Alang has ever said
― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 18 November 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 18 November 2004 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 18 November 2004 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― peepee (peepee), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link
Hiphop had been a feature of the UK charts from Grandmaster Flash onwards (OK, there was a bit of a break in the mid 80s). There were *mad* scenes in '88 when Public Enemy and Run DMC toured. And as for the music press, hiphop albums had a lot of critical stock from 'Yo! Bum Rush The Show' winning the NME 87 poll onwards. UK Hip Hop was never that big, so there wasn't the feeling that homegrown music scenes can create, but I guess for large parts of the USA, the consumers of the music are far culturally removed from the creators too.
Actually yeah - the original 'In the 90s, dance music was to the UK what hiphop was to the US' statement was more about creators than consumers, I think.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Alba, Rapper's Delight was a huge hit well before Grandmaster Flash.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link
I mentioned the various club comps because I believe they were the biggest cash cows (and chart successes) of the UK club scene, but if I'm way off in that assumption then someone please clarify.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't know enough about USA charts to comment on MindInRewind's comparison. Certainly there was a lot of dance in the charts here, though obv. daytime radio tended towards the poppier stuff.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 6 August 2005 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link