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i went to Target yesterday, and they sell Magic Eraser sponges that attach to mops!

sarahel, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

HOLY.

peacocks, Friday, 16 July 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

it made for efficient cleaning of the shower - though i regret having to report that it did not do so well on the tub - the walls of the shower are a different material.

sarahel, Friday, 16 July 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i still believe these really are made of magic. industrial and slightly evil magic, but magic nonetheless. i need to buy new ones.

i also need a magical attitude adjustment about this town and guys, i mean, men. gotta shift out of comfort zone and try not to hate it, or, yknow, run away from home, lol...

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 17 July 2010 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

what attitude needs adjusting?

sarahel, Saturday, 17 July 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

the one where I am really just unfairly misanthropic when it comes to other socializing possibilities in this town

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 17 July 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

are there events, places, things that seem interesting but you're skeptical about, or is it just that it feels like there's nothing worth doing outside of what you already do/where you regularly go?

sarahel, Saturday, 17 July 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

on the subject of hair dye - i quit dying my hair after almost 20 years a few years ago - i occasionally miss it, because my hair is a pretty boring shade of brown, but it makes my skin look better coloring-wise.

sarahel, Saturday, 17 July 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I started again recently after about five dye-free years but went one shade lighter than the colour I used to use.

the phantom flâneur flinger (suzy), Saturday, 17 July 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

i've noticed a lot of women do this as they get older - dye hair in lighter shades - like my mom dyes her hair light brown, which i think is weird because her natural hair color is dark brown/almost black - is it a skin tone thing?

sarahel, Saturday, 17 July 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah total skin tone thing bc skin tone needs more 'warming up' as we get older. Like I know older ladies who stopped wearing black even bc it started making them look washed out.

I really need to get my hair fixed too right now, along w the bad haircut. and get dif make-up bc I am summer darker/pinker.. And teeth cleaned. This never happens to me - feel like I'm falling apart!

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 17 July 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - yeah the first thing - things to do, so many of them, but my skepticism + an often-unexpected shyness needs to take a hike.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 17 July 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Like I know older ladies who stopped wearing black even bc it started making them look washed out.

what a sad thought - i hope these ladies were thin/slender at least ...

sarahel, Saturday, 17 July 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - maybe find a friend that is also interested in said things, or at least is willing to say, "WTF - if it's horrible or lame at least I'll have a good story to tell" to go with you?

sarahel, Saturday, 17 July 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

They started wearing dark brown instead! True stories!

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 17 July 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

okay, that's not so sad.

sarahel, Saturday, 17 July 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

It's funny bc I am usually that friend! I do go to many dif places and things - I just don't nec socialize. Need to bring along my more outgoing talk-to-anyone friends and re-learn that skill.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 17 July 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

if i lived near you rrrobyn i would totally be the talk-to-anyone friend! i was shy once, so it is totally possible to learn or re-learn that skill.

sarahel, Saturday, 17 July 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

a good way to start is at a bar or party where everyone is drinking/drunk, because if you embarrass yourself, or feel embarrassed in the slightest you can always blame it on alcohol, or at least, it is much more likely that the other people won't remember

sarahel, Saturday, 17 July 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Wld kiw u for sure - yeah my talk-to-anyone friends all moved away or now have boyfriends, which has changed things. I used to be the get a little drunk, talk to guys, get asked out girl. and then sthing happened, like feeling too old or some crap. But when in sf or nyc all's well on that front. I maybe should just act like in on vacation all the time haha.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 17 July 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost/I used to wear a lot more red than I do now but that's the only 'tone-down' I can think of that really applies (the hair colour difference is minimal and I've been covering grey since I was 19, so whatevs). As far as the aging process goes, I have good genes and a grandmother who seems to have left me her legs (she could go bare in above-the-knee skirts up to age 70, srsly) and her cheekbones. When I am older it is going to be very difficult to give up the dark hair part of the very dark hair/very blue eyes combo.

In other news, yesterday my new editor gave me best thing ever - soon MAC are doing new lines in tribute to Disney villains soon and I am therefore rocking the Cruella de Vil lipstick tube containing a colour called HEARTLESS. Launches late September: http://www.temptalia.com/mac-disney-venomous-villains-collection

the phantom flâneur flinger (suzy), Saturday, 17 July 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

totally having a "all my friends are in relationships and i'm not" bout of glumness now - but, i just got out of a really long relationship less than a year ago, so i feel like it's my turn to feel like that or something ...

but yeah, the "on vacation" thing - seems like it's a concern about consequences or self-image or i dunno

sarahel, Saturday, 17 July 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha yeah i have some issues there and re: permanency

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 17 July 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm thinking about going dark, or darker at least, in terms of hair color come fall. I've done it before but never been totally sure if I liked it or not. Kind of feeling the idea now though tbh.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Saturday, 17 July 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

how is when you go gray genetically determined? More precisely, is there a simple way of knowing this based on looking at family members or is it more complicated?

sarahel, Sunday, 18 July 2010 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link

My parents were barely grey in their 40s but I was rapidly greying in my 20s and fully so by my mid 30s :( I still have nfi how.

Gumbercules (Trayce), Sunday, 18 July 2010 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link

(tho I suspect stress/booze may have added to it)

Gumbercules (Trayce), Sunday, 18 July 2010 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link

huh. i'm in my mid-30s and have no gray hair - my mom started going gray in her early 40s, and my dad didn't do so until his early 60s, but it sounds like this means nothing

sarahel, Sunday, 18 July 2010 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I always wondered too, but I sis read somewhere that (for eg) heavy druggers/drinkers go grey fast cos of the stress on the body, erm, heh I wonder if thats why i did :(

Gumbercules (Trayce), Sunday, 18 July 2010 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I DID read, guh.

Gumbercules (Trayce), Sunday, 18 July 2010 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Data point: I def fell into the heavy substance user category for my 20s plus a few years on either side and I'm 37 and just starting to get enough gray hairs to make it worth my while to color. And it's prob not as noticeable as I think it is.

I always wanted to be the kind of woman who refuse to dye her gray hair but I'm going gray in this washed out, sad way and I guess I am more vain than I realized.

sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Sunday, 18 July 2010 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link

i've not been a heavy substance abuser and i'm getting a lot of white hairs in my 20s (can't really call it going grey yet) - apparently my grandmother was fully white-headed by her mid-thirties so i've been assuming i have that to look forward to. But it did start when i was emotionally pretty stressed. I'm hoping that if I can keep calm and restrict the stress to small bursts i'll end up with just one white streak rather than depressing salt-and-pepper. (my mother had white streaks like highlights when i was a kid)

oligopoly golightly (c sharp major), Sunday, 18 July 2010 09:46 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't have any grey hairs, but every rare once in a while a lone white one appears. i wonder what will happen re: that one day - maybe i will be one of those older ladies who tint their white hair platinum blonde! rad. but yeah my natural quite dark hair colour has dulled out a bit in the past couple of years, plus the summer further dulls it. plus colour is kinda fun! going to go a warm brown-red (as prescribed by 'the good hairstylist' who has been out of town for two months) :)

for all my whare i go meet nice mans, i ended up having a really nice time hanging with newish guy friend yesterday. we have an affinity. not letting it make me nervous, not jumping any guns...

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 18 July 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link

My mother went gray early––she had visible grays starting in her 20s, and was completely gray by 40. She was a pretty, steely gray then. Now her hair is completely white.

The way my hair is looking, it seems like it might just go white, though I'll most probably be salt and pepper for a while before that. I can't imagine my hair completely turning gray in the next four years. I don't dye it yet, but I will have to see how it looks when it's more heavily transitional. For now, anyway, I'm still mostly brunette. Or so I like to think.

I was never much with substance abuse, but I've got plenty of stress, unfortunately.

XP yay for enjoying your time with newish guy friend, without putting pressure on any of it mentally. :-)

JuliaA, Sunday, 18 July 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I have about a dozen white hairs that I just pluck out. My coworker says 'nooo, ten more will grow back in their place' but she also wonders what would happen if an IUD floated out of your uterus and into your body.

tokyo rosemary, Sunday, 18 July 2010 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link

what would happen if an IUD floated out of your uterus and into your body? The image reminds me of those garbage barges that just float around the ocean...or the big piles of garbage that also float around the ocean, just not on barges

sarahel, Sunday, 18 July 2010 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

ut she also wonders what would happen if an IUD floated out of your uterus and into your body.

It always startles me when an adult female friend says or misunderstands something fundamental about ones own body. In my early 20s a friend of mine shuffled up to me one day and whispered "can you like, actually go to the toilet when you're wearing a tampon?" She'd been reluctant to use one as she thought it'd come out, or get in the way, or something.

Gumbercules (Trayce), Sunday, 18 July 2010 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

wau.

JuliaA, Sunday, 18 July 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah that was kind of my reaction. How can you get to yr 20s and not know how a tampon works? :/

Gumbercules (Trayce), Monday, 19 July 2010 01:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I have a pretty good grey streak in the middle of the left side of my head. It started when I was about 15 and friends in school used to pull the greys out but now when people see it they are like "cooooool!" I've never dyed my hair and don't plan on it.

My dad had all white hair by the time he was 50. My mom has always dyed her hair so I don't know but she HAS done the thing where she gets more and more blonde as she gets older. She used to dye her hair dark red, and her natural color is plain ol' brown. As for wearing different colors, she tans really well and is outside a lot now because she's retired so she can still wear black and look OK I guess.

I just got out of being in 2 / 3 consecutive relationships for 5 years. Not that long when put into persepective, but I haven't had to worry about being single for my entire 20's and now I don't really know what to do. I went to a punk show by myself Friday and I only knew one other person there. I talked to some dudes but it got boring so I left and fell asleep watching Arrested Development at my friend's house :/

peacocks, Monday, 19 July 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

That sounds like a perfectly reasonable way to spend a Friday night to me.

sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Monday, 19 July 2010 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

It was certainly fun and reasonable! But was weird talking to guys I didn't know. I felt like I maybe should have been trying harder to flirt or talk people up or something.

peacocks, Monday, 19 July 2010 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Man, fuck that!

I found that one of the best things about biking to things, weather permitting, was that no matter how inconsequential a time I had at The Actual Thing, I never, EVER felt like it was a waste of my time if I got a nice pedal out of it. Night rides, warm breezes, seeing funny things and viewing views that no one else is there to see at that moment -- this is a great kind of freedom and the pleasure of it really cut me loose from all other expectations.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Monday, 19 July 2010 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link

i drove to the grocery store this morning and i saw some people riding bikes and i wanted to ride a bike so bad even though it's so hot. but i haven't ridden mine in over a year. one i sort of broke (temporarily) and it needs work. and i won't have health insurance until next month. fwiw i can't wait to have gray hair but i have blonde hair so i'm not gonna notice it until i'm old.

the girl with the butt tattoo (harbl), Monday, 19 July 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Riding bikes to Activities is really fun and I should do it more often. I walk almost everywhere and if I'm feeling down after work or something the walk home gets me into a better mood.

The thing (actually Saturday, not Friday) was that having a bf became a sort of barrier and I felt exposed without a person standing next to me that I could make off hand comments to or laugh at things with. I'm getting over that though! Hopefully soon that feeling of exposure will be more like freedom.

peacocks, Monday, 19 July 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Sometimes going to things alone means that you'll be that person who's hanging out by herself, smiling and listening or watching the action but not obviously being the center of something. So what? That's okay too. It did give me some food for thought re what things I was really going to enjoy in a focused way, and rule out some things that were only interesting if I went with a friend. That's okay too.

Plus on the off chance that you DO start talking to someone or you hate the event or w/e, you are FREE TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. Go home. Go to the afterparty. Kiss someone. Meet some people who seem cool and accept their invitation to grab a burger after the show. You know? Circulate, chat with casual acquaintances, don't have to explain to anyone where you are or where you'll be in 20 minutes, or plan to meet up again later, or anything. It's really pretty awesome.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Monday, 19 July 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

NB: I have been known to go to shows where I knew no one and no one talked to me but I knew I'd like the band so I took a book and read until they started.

This is by all definitions totally lame. But spend your time the way you WANT to spend it, right? And I want to be reading.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Monday, 19 July 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

again, GREAT idea! I don't think reading is ever lame.

peacocks, Monday, 19 July 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I never really learned to cycle as a kid - ok, I did have a bike when I was 7, but I was too scared of falling off to go anywhere on it; haven't touched one since about 8 or 9 - it but it would be a convenient way of getting around now.

Wish I knew someone of similar height whose bike I could borrow in the hope of finding out whether I might ever actually be safe using the thing without spending (much) money.

atoms breaking heart (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 19 July 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

thrift stores always have cheap bikes! Garage sales too.

peacocks, Monday, 19 July 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link


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