Inception (with implanted spoilers)

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yeah i think that's where im at too--it was confusing as to whether or not ppl understood they were in limbo. and yeah the sense i got was the leo didnt leave at the end, cf the whole "you never know how you got to the place where you are in dreams" thing

max, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:14 (thirteen years ago) link

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Agreed. It took me thinking for a full half hour on this, but I interpreted that they didn't know they were in limbo, or they did know, but limbo was so "blissful" in comparison to regular dreams, that nobody dared want to return. I'm leaning towards the latter now.

Just wow though.

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:21 (thirteen years ago) link

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this film was fuckin nuts

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max, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Yea. I'm glad I had a 40 something ounce soda to pump caffeine into me, because once ounce of fatigue, and I would have fallen too far behind to catch up.

Man that kid that used to be on Third Rock from the Sun was pretty awesome too

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:28 (thirteen years ago) link

gf was swooning over him the whole movie

max, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:29 (thirteen years ago) link

was it just me or did it seem like ellen page brought her own wardrobe to the set, it was like everyone dressed in these perfect retro suits and shirts and then theres fuckin JUNO in her g-damn bandana

max, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:29 (thirteen years ago) link

heh I did notice that.

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(not really but I'm being safe)

It is kind of amusing to think that sans about 5 minutes, all of the action in the movie happened in a dream.

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i liked this but it had the potential to be more.

it was mostly good though!

Man that kid that used to be on Third Rock from the Sun was pretty awesome too

― San Te, Friday, July 16, 2010 7:28 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

seriously! he was really good.

latebloomer, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I've decided I ain't going to sleep. I have to be up in 3 hours to get ready for work. maybe a 1.5 hour nap. Ugh this movie! I'm going to go find me a totem now.

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:55 (thirteen years ago) link

This wasn't about dreams as much as it was about navigating the rules of created worlds (the dream landscapes in the movie are even called levels like in video games. Not a spoiler.) It's basically a bigger, explodey-er, less squicky re-imagining of Cronenberg's eXistenZ as a heist movie.

The emotional beats felt kinda flat to be honest, but the spectacle was exhilarating.

latebloomer, Friday, 16 July 2010 09:10 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah emotions were totally empty

max, Friday, 16 July 2010 09:11 (thirteen years ago) link

nolan doesnt really give a shit about emotions as far as i can tell. everything in this movie is about bodies moving around in space--even ideas are given literal embodiment. tons and tons of machines doing machine-y things.

max, Friday, 16 July 2010 09:12 (thirteen years ago) link

score is all loud n shit

max, Friday, 16 July 2010 09:12 (thirteen years ago) link

the surrealism works quite in its favor though.

btw guys my dreams were FUCKED UP -- I got maybe 2.5 hours of sleep and I pretty much dreamed I was doing what the characters in the movie were doing.

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link

just can't bring myself to roll the dice on this

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 July 2010 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link

do we have a leo dicaprio: c or d thread

kim jong-ill (cozen), Friday, 16 July 2010 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

This wasn't about dreams as much as it was about navigating the rules of created worlds

When Leo was teaching Juno how to make dreamscapes it seemed a lot like teaching someone how to make films. Create an immersive and realistic world but without directly ripping off something else, plant ideas in it for the audience to work out themselves without realising you're manipulating them, and don't mess around with the laws of physics too much because it'll make people want to physically hurt you.

8 (88), Friday, 16 July 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

nice!

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm really looking forward to seeing this again, to see what else might be gleaned from a repeat viewing.

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

omfg

rent, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

this was amazing

rent, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm glad to hear some ilxors fawning, because it seems more and more negative reviews are rolling out over the past two days.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 July 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

NPR hated it.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 July 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Some of the press I take with a grain of salt. Namely these gems:

"None of this prattling drivel adds up to one iota of cogent or convincing logic. You never know who anyone is, what their goals are, who they work for or what they're doing.--Rex Reed

Uhm, I'm not exactly the best at keeping up with fast-developing movies, and I understood what was going on and had a vested interest in it. Talk about a smug "I didn't get it, so nobody will" review.

"Inception may have been directed by Christopher Nolan, but Nolan's dreams are apparently directed by Michael Bay.

Ahh, yes, because all surreal action sequences=Michael Bay.

With that being said, I do understand to a degree why some don't like it. It really depends on how you feel about emotionally detached, mechanical cinema. Most of the critique I see targets the stunted emotional content, which is a fair point (just not one that I personally cared about).

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry that second review was from Salon.com

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

great costumes in this

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Friday, 16 July 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm at work right now and all I can think of is the last 30 minutes of this movie. that does it, I gotta go again tonight. I'm not a big "see movies multiple times" in the theatre guy, but Nolan seems to have that effect on me.

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

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a lot of the complaints seem to be that it has no heart/is all cerebral sleight-of-hand. the scene near the end (or, at the bottom?) between leo and [his memory of] his wife, where he rejects his own projection of her, reminds her that they did grow old together (but is really talking to and maybe forgiving himself) was pretty moving...the stuff with the kids felt a little unreal throughout, which in retrospect makes sense.

this could have been a disaster many times over, but i felt like i was watching someone at the very top of their game operating with complete comfort and even flair in areas where a wrong move in any direction could topple the whole house of cards, which was pretty exhilarating. so many good scenes!

rent, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

yea really the emotional center of the movie is Leo, and the other players really revolve around him and his aenema. I'm fine with that too.

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Thoroughly enjoyed it. Lots to think about. Would definitely want to see it again reasonably soon.

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So, how much was "real"? 5 minutes, of none of it? Did the top fall?

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 16 July 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Or not of.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 16 July 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

this was pretty great. haters to the left.

orakle-krake (Gukbe), Friday, 16 July 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Henry, please explain that picture reference to us philistines.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 16 July 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

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I'm torn on whether the top fell. At least three times it buckled as if it was going to, but then didn't. The look on Leo's face when he returned to his house and saw his kids hinted that it might not have -- he seemed confused and disoriented, although that could also be attributed to seeing your kids for the first time in years.

In addition, he looked surprised when he woke up, as if he didn't know how he got there...which was different than the reactions of everyone else when they woke up (ie, their eyes opened, and they looked alert and relatively calm).

As far as how much of it was real, I'm pretty convinced that it was mostly real, but who can tell, really? Since the movie was playing on the "reality is what you know" theme (which has been done frequently), if you wanted to get real analytical, you could assume that the *rules* Leo explained were in the dream rather than reality, and then none of it was real!

I tend to go for the literal approach and assume it was all real except for possibly the reunion with his children, and of course the dream within dream sequences.

God I can't wait to see this again.

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, the last 45 minutes were nothing if not zero gravity D.W. Griffith.

Eric H., Friday, 16 July 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

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hey guyz what if the movie iznt real?

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Zero-gravity JGL is all-time great. That fight scene was astonishing, and played so low-key in so many ways, too.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 16 July 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

This thread should be renamed Incept-SPOILER SPOILERS SPOIILLLLLLEERSS

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At one point quite early on, when I registered the top and that it was Mal's, I wondered whether maybe everything was Cobb inside her dream.

I'm convinced that Juno's name in the film is toomsignificant her her to be anything but a subconscious projection. DiCaprio as Theseus, Cotillard as Minotaur.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 16 July 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

After this and GI Joe I am now utterly convinced that JGL will play Joker in the third Batman film by Nolan.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 16 July 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Although I will say this movie explains a lot. Extraction must be where the award winning screenplays I remember writing went!

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

also would love to see someone blame a one night stand on inception

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

locations in this were great. pretty much everywhere featured apart from about two scenes are places I could happily spend extended amounts of time in.

stet, Friday, 16 July 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

just bought my ticket for tonight (not in IMAX this time). this sadly makes the second consecutive Nolan film I've seen twice in the first 24 hours of release.

I'm going to need a loooooooong nap after this.

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

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ok as far as the end, the top thing, etc....

i swear that i noticed this when he goes thru customs at the end to meet michael caine....

when he's showing his passport to the dude, and he's flipping through it, i thought all the pages looked blank, like maybe that was some detail that wasn't fully fleshed out in the dream world..

unless i didn't see it correctly...or maybe it means nothing

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hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 July 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

At one point I got a little confused and thought Lukas Haas was the kid from Dazed & Confused who's in Waking Life (he isn't), and the thing about digital screens / clocks from that struck me as something that would have been awesome if up for investigation in Inception. I was kind of looking for writing or lack of all the way through.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 16 July 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Saw this this morning. Leo has just about mastered disguising what a bad actor he is. Aside from that, god, so many images from this are playing over in my mind.

Loved the style of it too, though I thought Leo, and some of the others (esp Cillian Murphy) were like Nolan surrogates in how they looked; the hair, the clothing...

Born too beguiled (DavidM), Friday, 16 July 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I've gotta say, having never really liked DiCaprio when he was younger, he's really growing on me as he grows older and more Jack Nicholson-like.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 16 July 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ I hated him in the Basketball Diaries days but have really enjoyed him of late. And his histrionics were well in check in this movie.

San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link


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